Pocket Query: Items to Include / Exclude

[+Wayfarer-MD]

"Items to Include" has a list of selectable attributes. Does it work on a and basis or an or basis?

Specifically, if I select Thing1 and Thing 2, do I get only sites that

. . 1) have both Thing1 and Thing2, or

. . 2) have either Thing1 or Thing2.

 

"Items to Exclude" has the same list selectable attributes. Does it work on a and basis or an or basis?

Specifically, if I select Thing1 and Thing 2, do I get only sites that

. . 1) have both Thing1 and Thing2, or

. . 2) have either Thing1 or Thing2.

 

Also, what is the difference in operation of both these lists between a selection

without and with the circular red don't sign.

 

My interpretation (guess)

. . . Include normal: Thing1 and Thing2 (must have both)

. . . Include don't: Not Thing1 and Not Thing2 (may not have either)

 

. . . Exclude normal: Thing1 or Thing2 (may not have either)

. . . Exclude don't: Not Thing1 and Not Thing2 (may not have either)

 

All of these permutation possibilities make it very confusing. The website certainly needs better clarification.

[+TrailGators]

"Items to Include" has a list of selectable attributes. Does it work on a and basis or an or basis?

Specifically, if I select Thing1 and Thing 2, do I get only sites that

. . 1) have both Thing1 and Thing2, or

. . 2) have either Thing1 or Thing2.

 

"Items to Exclude" has the same list selectable attributes. Does it work on a and basis or an or basis?

Specifically, if I select Thing1 and Thing 2, do I get only sites that

. . 1) have both Thing1 and Thing2, or

. . 2) have either Thing1 or Thing2.

 

Also, what is the difference in operation of both these lists between a selection

without and with the circular red don't sign.

 

My interpretation (guess)

. . . Include normal: Thing1 and Thing2 (must have both)

. . . Include don't: Not Thing1 and Not Thing2 (may not have either)

 

. . . Exclude normal: Thing1 or Thing2 (may not have either)

. . . Exclude don't: Not Thing1 and Not Thing2 (may not have either)

 

All of these permutation possibilities make it very confusing. The website certainly needs better clarification.

It works on an "OR" basis unless it is stated as "AND." It says "AND" at the top of the conditions for the "that" section. Edited September 3, 2007 by TrailGators

[+PeterNoG]

"Excluding Attitubutes" has a known bug and gives wonky results.

[+Wayfarer-MD]

It works on an "OR" basis unless it is stated as "AND." It says "AND" at the top of the conditions for the "that" section.

 

Thanks for a reply, but it does not say AND. What it does say is:

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Attributes to Include

(click to include/exclude certain attributes)

{Pictures of attributes}

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[+TrailGators]

It works on an "OR" basis unless it is stated as "AND." It says "AND" at the top of the conditions for the "that" section.

 

Thanks for a reply, but it does not say AND. What it does say is:

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Attributes to Include

(click to include/exclude certain attributes)

{Pictures of attributes}

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Those would be added on an "or" basis. Otherwise the PQ would only output caches that had all the attributes you selected rather than outputting caches that had any of the attributes you selected. Edited September 3, 2007 by TrailGators

[+Wayfarer-MD]

"Excluding Attributes" has a known bug and gives wonky results.

Thanks for the tip- I'll avoid its use. There is some redundancy with Attributes to Exclude ,

as one presumably can use the red exclude selection for the purpose.

 

Perhaps the following is true with respect to using Including Attributes. Suppose

that I've selected Do1 and Do2. And excluded, using the red don't sign, Dont1 and Dont2.

Then, a site would be included if it"

. . "Has Do1 and has Do2 and does not have Dont1 and does not have Dont2."

[+Markwell]

Those would be added on an "or" basis. Otherwise the PQ would only output caches that had all the attributes you selected rather than outputting caches that had any of the attributes you selected.

Here's the Test:

All caches within 10 miles of N 41° 38.000 W 088° 13.000 - results 333

Add ONLY the "less than one hour" attribute: results: 106

Add ONLY the "handicapped" attribute: results: 21

 

So, if I choose both, and this were an OR statement, I should receive more than 106 but not more than 127 unless ALL of the "handicapped" ones are not labeled "less than one hour". But if I get a result smaller than 21, it's an AND statement.

 

Interesting result is that the COUNT of caches says that it's 127, but if you look at the actual caches, there's 126 caches.

 

SO...

 

It's a true OR statement, gathering caches that are labeled "less than one hour" and adding those results to the list of caches that are labeled "handicapped". But the total number is not aggregating the count of the results. ONE of those caches has both "handicapped" and "less than one hour" on it.

[+Wayfarer-MD]

TrailGator,

 

Thanks for your test. I was actually doing my own test when I got your email.

My test results were rather surprising. So I have posted them to

. Forum Topics > Attributes to Include is Inaccurate

. http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=172575

 

Wayfarer-MD