Caches you refuse to log a Found it on.

[+Vater_Araignee]

If you go to my profile you will see I have a list of caches that I know where they are but refuse to log a "found it" on. I have even given a short explanation as to why. Each one revolves around somebody finding it just before me, removing my ability to actually find it in its intended location. Well there is one "Larp_mans first" but I only did it to be a jerk to the CO.

 

Statistically I can not be the only person that refuses to log when the location is known without being the finder.

So who else does and why?

[+BlueDeuce]

Certainly none out of spite, just the ones I helped place.

[Mushtang]

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

[+Chi-Town Cacher]

My personal opinion is I can kind of understand the list on your profile page. However, trying to be a "jerk" as you put it to somebody that placed a cache for your enjoyment seems downright rude.

[+Rich the Bushwhacker]

Why do you feel the need to publish this on your profile page?

 

It looks like you just want to publicly chastize your brother and another cacher for some perceived wrongdoings.

Edited March 8, 2009 by Rich the Bushwhacker

[+briansnat]

There are probably a dozen or so caches where I was at the tail end of a group of cachers and when I arrived at the coordinates the cache was already out and the log being signed. I know where they are because I saw them being returned to their hiding place. I log notes for those because I had no involvement whatsoever in the hunt. I don't keep a list however.

 

There are probably another dozen or so where I accompanied the cache hider when he placed the cache. I know where the caches are but haven't logged finds. I figure I can't "find" them because I already know where they are.

 

There is one that I can think of where it was a puzzle cache and I had no part in solving the puzzle, so I logged a note rather than a found it. I did find the cache and signed the logbook, so I've thought about trying to solve the problem on my own then logging the find, but haven't gotten around to it. It's not high on my to do list (Geez it was almost 4 years ago, how time flies).

Edited March 8, 2009 by briansnat

[+Walts Hunting]

A bunch of cachers were doing a clean up at Loon Lake in northern California and used the second day for caching. I hiked 3 miles into the wilderness and as I approached the location could hear another group of cachers at the cache. When I arrived they had it out. I signed it and logged it. IMHO if I touch it and sign the log I found it. There have been other times when something similar has occurred.

 

It really seems a bit much to put some sort of super standard for find on yourself.

[+Runaway46]

I thought it was all about numbers!!! It is to me. I've arrived at GZ to find a group of cachers or perhaps one and have the container handed to me, I found it. I figure it this way IF the co-ords are GOOD then you find them all anyway. Sometimes I wonder if a gps is even used in some hides, perhaps just google earth? Now I know that is a subject for another thread.

[+Palamino]

I think this saying applies "don't bite your nose to spite your face".

[+Team O-Zone]

If you feel a cache is so simple that it's "beneath you"; then just don't do it. There's not reason to bring in any "bad blood" into geocaching. Sometimes a simple cache can be a challenge. If you come upon GZ and there's already a group of cachers there, then I think you have a few options.

 

1) Be stealth about observing them and turn it into an adventure. You are spying on them, make you log a spy themed story.

 

2) Walk up to them & make some new friends (or refresh an exsisting friendship).

 

3) Wait for them to leave then make your find. If they did not hide it as well as it should have been, then you can hide it better.

[+Vinny & Sue Team]

If you go to my profile you will see I have a list of caches that I know where they are but refuse to log a "found it" on. I have even given a short explanation as to why. Each one revolves around somebody finding it just before me, removing my ability to actually find it in its intended location. Well there is one "Larp_mans first" but I only did it to be a jerk to the CO.

 

Statistically I can not be the only person that refuses to log when the location is known without being the finder.

So who else does and why?

There are no situations where I have actually found a cache and signed the log and then decided not to log a find online, but there exist PLENTY of caches (and I say this despite the fact that I love to tackle (and hide) extreme terrain caches, that is, caches with a Terrain rating of 4.0 and above) where I have arrived at the cache hide site, took one look, and decided quickly not to even try to find the cache, always due to one of the following reasons:

• the cache turned out, despite a cache listing page which indicated otherwise, to be a lame urban micro which was placed in an obviously illegal and posted setting.
  
• the cache turned out, despite a cache listing page which indicated otherwise, to be a lame urban micro which was placed in an obviously dangerous hide spot, such as inside the hollow lower part of a spun aluminum lamp post, nestled among 220 VAC wires.
  

And I should note here, much as I have noted in the past, that I have found an especially high concentration of such nasty bad hides in and around Kalamazoo, Michigan, while such totally lame hides seem to extremely rare in Maryland and surrounding states (PA, WVA, VA, DC, NJ).

 

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[+Vinny & Sue Team]

Dreaded duplicate post due to dreaded dreadful forum server software glitch which the admins could easily repair but refuse to repair due to the fact that they have entered into a secret pact with the Bavarian Illuminati and the Bilderberg Cabal.

Edited March 8, 2009 by Vinny & Sue Team

[+TrailGators]

If you go to my profile you will see I have a list of caches that I know where they are but refuse to log a "found it" on. I have even given a short explanation as to why. Each one revolves around somebody finding it just before me, removing my ability to actually find it in its intended location. Well there is one "Larp_mans first" but I only did it to be a jerk to the CO.

 

Statistically I can not be the only person that refuses to log when the location is known without being the finder.

So who else does and why?

I had a fun day of caching yesterday with a friend of mine. We found a total of 40 urbans. 10 of those urbans were LPCs. I have been ignoring LPCs for alomst two years now. So I didn't sign the log or log those online. After yesterday I now have 141 LPC in my ignore bookmark. I don't mind my buddy finding them but I don't do those any more because I personally prefer variety and 1 in 4 caches being the exact same hide is not variety to me.

[CoyoteRed]

There's a few instances where I don't log a find it. Like's been mentioned if I help hide it or stumble across it when another party is revealing the hiding spot. (If it is out and they were considerate enough to be a short distance from the hiding spot, I might walk back up the trail until they are done.)

 

There are caches that I know where they are, sometimes even have put my hands on or opened, but will not log. Yes, I can honestly say I believe these caches are not worthy of any further action on my part. I don't understand why anyone would want to make snarky remarks about this practice. Many folks would advise if you stop having fun on a hunt, stop the hunt. I do.

 

A lot of folks will hunt caches that on the surface would normally not appeal to them and they sometimes receive a pleasant surprise. This is what I'm hoping when I hunt a cache I normally wouldn't like. Rarely am I pleasantly surprised. Should I them continue the process or stop? I confused.

 

Nah, I'll stop the process and not log, thank you. After all, most of the time I don't even sign the log, so would I "deserve" a smilie?

[+tomfuller & Quill]

If I come upon a cacher in the field with cache-in-hand I ask that they rehide it where it belongs and I'll come back in about 5 minutes. That way I can say that I actually "found" it. If I'm caching with someone else and I spot the cache first, I'll say "I see it" and sit down at least 25 feet away until they pick it up.

I have found at least 2 caches that had the logbook signed by Dave Ulmer "the father of geocaching". Although he still caches from time to time he very rarely logs a find online.

On one occasion I thought I was going for a FTF on a hard to get to cache about 6 weeks after it was planted.

Imagine my surprise when I saw the first log of someone (BK) who wrote how he got there but never logged online.

Even if it is a lame hide or if I leave my card because the log is too wet to write on, I'll log it online if I found it.

[+TrailGators]

There are caches that I know where they are, sometimes even have put my hands on or opened, but will not log. Yes, I can honestly say I believe these caches are not worthy of any further action on my part. I don't understand why anyone would want to make snarky remarks about this practice. Many folks would advise if you stop having fun on a hunt, stop the hunt. I do.

I didn't understand the snarky comments either. Seems like with some people we are damned if we don't and damned if we do. So that means you need to go with what you believe and don't worry about the snarky people.

[+fizzymagic]

Depends.

 

I don't log most events. Nothing to find.

 

I don't log caches where I was with the hider when they hid it. If the challenge of the cache is a long hike, and I do the hike again later, I will sometimes sign the log at the later date and log the find.

 

That's pretty much it. If I am with a group and somebody else finds it first, but I know I would have found it anyway, I sign the cache and log the find. I am disappointed they didn't let me find it also, but I see no reason to avoid calling it a find.

[+Kit Fox]

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

 

I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1, and rather than log a find, he logged his visit as a note. It was how he played the game.

[+Vater_Araignee]

My personal opinion is I can kind of understand the list on your profile page. However, trying to be a "jerk" as you put it to somebody that placed a cache for your enjoyment seems downright rude.

I never called a Cache owner a "jerk" well I did call a CO a jerk but only because he does own a few caches and they have nothing to do with why I called him a jerk.

 

Why do you feel the need to publish this on your profile page?

 

It looks like you just want to publicly chastize your brother and another cacher for some perceived wrongdoings.

I'm not chastising the other cacher, it is not her fault that I walked up to see her replacing it. I know where it was at without finding it and as I also stated on my page I'm waiting until August to go after the caches.

I'm hoping that I wont be able to walk right up to them by then but if I can then I wont log them till at least 18 months have passed hoping that I'll have forgotten by then.

As for my brother, I told him every time we headed out together "If you find it before me, walk away and let me find it." After his victory dance I let him know I was not happy about it and on the same day He did it again. We went to a new location but before we headed out I locked myself into a vault toilet, when I came out there he was with cache in hand and it became a contest of wills. Basically he was going to walk home if he didn't put it back and give me the opportunity to find it, I won.

I publicize the caches with explanation as to why I wont log them for the same reason I am publicizing my DNFs, to give the caches another rout for exposure.

 

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

If you feel a cache is so simple that it's "beneath you"; then just don't do it. There's not reason to bring in any "bad blood" into geocaching. Sometimes a simple cache can be a challenge. If you come upon GZ and there's already a group of cachers there, then I think you have a few options.

 

1) Be stealth about observing them and turn it into an adventure. You are spying on them, make you log a spy themed story.

 

2) Walk up to them & make some new friends (or refresh an exsisting friendship).

 

3) Wait for them to leave then make your find. If they did not hide it as well as it should have been, then you can hide it better.

I never claimed the caches where beneath me.

I was being stealthy because I would like to know who is who before they know me, so I can tell them how I know and get a good laugh.

 

Where did I seem to give the impression that a cache was beneath me? I would like to know so that I can alter it.

[+Tequila]

I think you have lost sight of the fact that this is just a game.

 

If you don't want your brother or caching partner to find it first, CACHE ALONE. Sounds like it might make the trip more fun for everyone.

[Stumpy434]

I think you have lost sight of the fact that this is just a game.

 

If you don't want your brother or caching partner to find it first, CACHE ALONE. Sounds like it might make the trip more fun for everyone.

Well put brother.

[+TrailGators]

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

 

I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1, and rather than log a find, he logged his visit as a note. It was how he played the game.

Nothing wrong with that!

[+Bad Duck]

What was he doing at a 1/1 if he only goes after high terrain caches?

Logging a note doesn't nullify the fact he was there.

"I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1"

Edited March 8, 2009 by Bad Duck

[+Dedmedic]

If you go to my profile you will see I have a list of caches that I know where they are but refuse to log a "found it" on. I have even given a short explanation as to why. Each one revolves around somebody finding it just before me, removing my ability to actually find it in its intended location. Well there is one "Larp_mans first" but I only did it to be a jerk to the CO.

 

Statistically I can not be the only person that refuses to log when the location is known without being the finder.

So who else does and why?

All i can say is you are succeeding in your "being a jerk" mission

[+TrailGators]

What was he doing at a 1/1 if he only goes after high terrain caches?

Logging a note doesn't nullify the fact he was there.

"I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1"

The way I read it, he was picking up a geocoin...

[+DanOCan]

I have no objection to claiming a Find on a cache if someone else had already found it when I got on scene. Heck, if I hadn't done that at GeoWoodstock VI I never would have gotten to do any caches that day.

[+Star*Hopper]

"Caches you refuse to log a Found it on."

 

Ones I hain't found.

 

"I can deal with complex things, long as you keep 'em simple."

~*

[+Shop99er]

I will log every cache that I find.

 

On the other hand, there are caches I refuse to look for, at all.

[+Parabola]

Temps....... come on someone had to say it. No GC number so how can I properly "find" and log a "find" on that cache. It's not listed on this site.

 

I do have one that I'm kind of twisted about. I helped hide a cache. I was recruted to help do the dirty deed of hiding it. I was thinking I should go and sign the log sheet, but then I still don't know if I should log it as a find on-line. I was there when it was placed, I helped hide it. I don't think I should if I don't sign the log book. But I don't know even if I make the trek to it again to sign the log, (which I do intend on doing anyway's), but after that I don't know if I feel right about logging it as a find.

 

I'm sure the owner won't care as long as I sign the log book.

 

I just wish there was a way to keep it from show up on my map on the site.

[+TrailGators]

Temps....... come on someone had to say it. No GC number so how can I properly "find" and log a "find" on that cache. It's not listed on this site.

 

I do have one that I'm kind of twisted about. I helped hide a cache. I was recruted to help do the dirty deed of hiding it. I was thinking I should go and sign the log sheet, but then I still don't know if I should log it as a find on-line. I was there when it was placed, I helped hide it. I don't think I should if I don't sign the log book. But I don't know even if I make the trek to it again to sign the log, (which I do intend on doing anyway's), but after that I don't know if I feel right about logging it as a find.

 

I'm sure the owner won't care as long as I sign the log book.

 

I just wish there was a way to keep it from show up on my map on the site.

Finding is the only way to get it off the map. I wish ignored caches wouldn't show up on the online maps.

[+Parabola]

Temps....... come on someone had to say it. No GC number so how can I properly "find" and log a "find" on that cache. It's not listed on this site.

 

I do have one that I'm kind of twisted about. I helped hide a cache. I was recruted to help do the dirty deed of hiding it. I was thinking I should go and sign the log sheet, but then I still don't know if I should log it as a find on-line. I was there when it was placed, I helped hide it. I don't think I should if I don't sign the log book. But I don't know even if I make the trek to it again to sign the log, (which I do intend on doing anyway's), but after that I don't know if I feel right about logging it as a find.

 

I'm sure the owner won't care as long as I sign the log book.

 

I just wish there was a way to keep it from show up on my map on the site.

Finding is the only way to get it off the map. I wish ignored caches wouldn't show up on the online maps.

 

Yeah I wish they would set a little box to take ignored cache off the map. Then I could slip it to my ignore list, and not have to look at it. Cause you know it's just there taunting me.

 

It's a great cache too. A long hike, scale down a cliff face. I was recruted to to the "monkey" work. I'll definally go back out just to sign it, but I really don't care if I get a simley for it.

 

But I just don't feel right about getting "credit" for the find. But the trip out is time well spent!!! Just that unfound on my list bug's me.

 

Oh well, I rather have the memories of the trip out when we hide it, over a smiley anyday. Priceless!!!

[Clan Riffster]

While not quite what the OP had in mind, there are at least a couple dozen caches which I have located, signed the log and never logged on line.

These are typically those caches hidden with absolutely no effort made by the owner.

Uninspired location / free, inferior container / Scrap paper for a logsheet / etc.

I figure, "Why bother?", and put as much effort into logging them as the owner did in hiding them.

(Hopefully, this won't get me labelled as someone who is all about the numbers)

[+TrailGators]

While not quite what the OP had in mind, there are at least a couple dozen caches which I have located, signed the log and never logged on line.

These are typically those caches hidden with absolutely no effort made by the owner.

Uninspired location / free, inferior container / Scrap paper for a logsheet / etc.

I figure, "Why bother?", and put as much effort into logging them as the owner did in hiding them.

(Hopefully, this won't get me labelled as someone who is all about the numbers)

I understand CR. I just can't get myself to write negative logs. I try to follow the saying "if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all." So I don't log certain caches...

[+Snoogans]

Certainly none out of spite, just the ones I helped place.

 

What he said.

 

I know there's a few out there that that I've signed and forgotten to log. I went for a long period without logging finds and when I got caught up, I know my notes weren't complete.

 

If I was with a group out caching and I did the cache(s) of a certain local cacher, I probably wouldn't log them. Mostly because I wouldn't want to give them the pleasure of deleting my find(s) out of the pure mean spirited spite that is their defining characteristic when they are off their meds.

[greenworldfeather]

If the cache is one that is a really hard to find cache, has never been found, and has stumped many cachers, and I wanted to have some fun, I might do something with sign ing it I wouldn't normalyy do, such as "post note I found it/DNF I found it/Found it log I didn't find it/DNF several times then said in one, I might have signed it, but since I am the only one who has found it besides the owner, you don't know whether i really found it or if I am just saying I found it just to be annoying or just for fun." With the last one, I would then say in that log or in an e-mail to the owner, don't tell anyone whether I really found it or not. If it was in the e-mail, I would say I had found it, but would add that I would like for it to be kept secret for a while, say a month or two and then on the day of an event near there, I would finnally post a found it log just before we met for the event. I might nust get an event organized by there just so i could do that. Also, thinks if you could use your iphone and put that you had just found it 6 months ago, or around the date that you actually found it. If anybody asks what you are doing, CASUALLY reply that you are just logging a found it on a very difficult to find cache(name that certain cache that everybody is looking for if you want to have a bit more fun), and then drive away just after that, saying that they will never find it unless they bribe you. There's a few good ways you can have fun with stuff like that. Have a great day. gwf

[+paleolith]

In SoCal, if no one logged finds when they were present at the hide, and only logged finds when they personally found the cache rather than someone else in a group, then the total number of finds would drop by probably 75%. The concept of "everyone in the group finds the cache independently" seems to be unheard of in SoCal.

 

Edward

[+Snoogans]

In SoCal, if no one logged finds when they were present at the hide, and only logged finds when they personally found the cache rather than someone else in a group, then the total number of finds would drop by probably 75%. The concept of "everyone in the group finds the cache independently" seems to be unheard of in SoCal.

 

Edward

 

I doubt it's just SoCal, but if it gives you a smug superior feeling to look down on the practice then go with it. I personally don't get why someone would mark a find on a cache they helped hide, but I don't judge other folks logging ethics too harshly.

 

I've been on some very large cache outings with 20-30+ cachers in 12-20+ vehicles where the focus was on the journey the caches took you on rather than the caches themselves.

 

If every cacher signed every log, the journey would have been MUCH shorter due to the time eaten up by logging. On these occasions, a group signature was agreed upon. As a member of that group I have had no problem logging caches I didn't individually find. I was there with the group... Enjoying the location.... Letting the gotta findies get their high while I took pictures and yakked with the other non-gotta findies. Basically a mobile event cache.

 

The most recent time with a big group, I had my copilot 007BigD (a gotta findie of the 1st order) put my personal sig item in every cache. I have no idea how many got traded right back out and I don't care. I was there and I'm secure in my personal logging ethics.

 

If you want to put an asterisk next to my stats because of a couple dozen instances where I didn't actually physically find the cache I logged then maybe I won't get inducted into the Geocacher Hall of Fame. I'll cry on A-Rod's shoulder along with the rest of the juicers.

 

Edited March 9, 2009 by Snoogans

[+GIDEON-X]

***CHARTER-MEMBER GIDEON-X***

Having Gone All The Way a Round The "POT" And Found The Handle (360 degrees)...

As Of This Posting (October 16 2007) I'll not Log Any More Finds To This Account!

 

REASON:

Was told oh you have to get the "Numbers"........"Worng"... I do what I want to do!

Sign log books, post notes to cache finds (do not claim finds) I and I do only caches that I feel like doing. This area has been flooded with "Pill-Bottle" caches (contain a scrap of paper for a log sheet) why bother "NO REDEMING SOCIAL VALUE"........Cache-On and Enjoy

[+fox-and-the-hound]

I've done this a few times for various reasons, but most commonly if I come upon another group of cachers already signing in. I'll keep my distance while they're replacing and go back at some point in the future. Found Its for me are for when I find it. What's the fun otherwise? I've also helped others place caches and leave those unfound as well.

 

I have on occassion found caches in totally unacceptable placements that clearly broke guidelines in placement (even grandfathered guidelines) and have only logged a note or emailed the owner. Taking a smilie on those would only encourage more of that kind of problem.

[+sbell111]

I didn't understand the snarky comments either. Seems like with some people we are damned if we don't and damned if we do. So that means you need to go with what you believe and don't worry about the snarky people.

When the OP gave his stated reason for doing this as 'to be a jerk to the CO', he set himself up for snarky replies. That being said, if someone chooses not to log a find, why should I care? I log all of mine (unless I forget).

[+The Blorenges]

 

I do have one that I'm kind of twisted about. I helped hide a cache. I was recruted to help do the dirty deed of hiding it. I was thinking I should go and sign the log sheet, but then I still don't know if I should log it as a find on-line. I was there when it was placed, I helped hide it. I don't think I should if I don't sign the log book. But I don't know even if I make the trek to it again to sign the log, (which I do intend on doing anyway's), but after that I don't know if I feel right about logging it as a find.

 

I'm sure the owner won't care as long as I sign the log book.

 

Yeah I wish they would set a little box to take ignored cache off the map. Then I could slip it to my ignore list, and not have to look at it. Cause you know it's just there taunting me.

 

It's a great cache too. A long hike, scale down a cliff face. I was recruted to to the "monkey" work. I'll definally go back out just to sign it, but I really don't care if I get a simley for it...

 

I was interested to read of your dilemma. I think you should go back there (as you've suggested that you would), do the hike, scramble down the cliff, skin your knees a bit and "find" that cache again. After all, you never know, it might have been shifted 3 or 4 feet from where it was originally hidden . Log it as a find but salve your conscience (if you feel the need ) by explaining the circumstances in your log. Go for it - I think you deserve the smiley! - after all, it's not like you're claiming the FTF on it and you'll have done the hard work for it twice.

 

MrsB

[+Team O-Zone]

My personal opinion is I can kind of understand the list on your profile page. However, trying to be a "jerk" as you put it to somebody that placed a cache for your enjoyment seems downright rude.

I never called a Cache owner a "jerk" well I did call a CO a jerk but only because he does own a few caches and they have nothing to do with why I called him a jerk.

 

Why do you feel the need to publish this on your profile page?

 

It looks like you just want to publicly chastize your brother and another cacher for some perceived wrongdoings.

I'm not chastising the other cacher, it is not her fault that I walked up to see her replacing it. I know where it was at without finding it and as I also stated on my page I'm waiting until August to go after the caches.

I'm hoping that I wont be able to walk right up to them by then but if I can then I wont log them till at least 18 months have passed hoping that I'll have forgotten by then.

As for my brother, I told him every time we headed out together "If you find it before me, walk away and let me find it." After his victory dance I let him know I was not happy about it and on the same day He did it again. We went to a new location but before we headed out I locked myself into a vault toilet, when I came out there he was with cache in hand and it became a contest of wills. Basically he was going to walk home if he didn't put it back and give me the opportunity to find it, I won.

I publicize the caches with explanation as to why I wont log them for the same reason I am publicizing my DNFs, to give the caches another rout for exposure.

 

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

If you feel a cache is so simple that it's "beneath you"; then just don't do it. There's not reason to bring in any "bad blood" into geocaching. Sometimes a simple cache can be a challenge. If you come upon GZ and there's already a group of cachers there, then I think you have a few options.

 

1) Be stealth about observing them and turn it into an adventure. You are spying on them, make you log a spy themed story.

 

2) Walk up to them & make some new friends (or refresh an exsisting friendship).

 

3) Wait for them to leave then make your find. If they did not hide it as well as it should have been, then you can hide it better.

I never claimed the caches where beneath me.

I was being stealthy because I would like to know who is who before they know me, so I can tell them how I know and get a good laugh.

 

Where did I seem to give the impression that a cache was beneath me? I would like to know so that I can alter it.

 

That is the impression I got from your original post. You have admitted to being a "jerk" about it. That led me to think that the game of geocaching at that moment was somehow corrupted, hence then becomming "beneath"you. If I offended you; I appologize. That was not my intention. Enjoy this game with it's many unique twists that happen on a daily basis.

[+Mredria]

Only three so far, one that I places, one that I was present for, and one that I found on accident and had been purposefully avoiding because I wasn't interested in fullfilling the log requirements. That was kind of irritating, but it taught me not to load and go.

[+StarBrand]

If I find it and open it and sign the log (not involved with the placement), no matter what occured to get me there - I am good with logging it.

That isn't to say I haven't turned and walked away from several others without a search after I saw the location.

[+tozainamboku]

There are caches that I know where they are, sometimes even have put my hands on or opened, but will not log. Yes, I can honestly say I believe these caches are not worthy of any further action on my part. I don't understand why anyone would want to make snarky remarks about this practice. Many folks would advise if you stop having fun on a hunt, stop the hunt. I do.

I didn't understand the snarky comments either. Seems like with some people we are damned if we don't and damned if we do. So that means you need to go with what you believe and don't worry about the snarky people.

I'm not seeing this. What people are saying is "if you're not having fun stop the hunt". It doesn't matter where you decide you are no longer having fun. If you know in advance you are not going to have fun looking for urban micros then don't look for them. If you think some urban micro might be fun so you still go to them, but see right away this is in a lamppost in a parking lot, then walk away from this. If you just have to lift the skirt and see the 35 mm can before you decide you're not having fun, just don't sign the log. If you still feel the need to sign the log, but it just isn't any fun to write TFTC online then don't log online. (hmm, guess that does come out a little snarky )

 

I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1, and rather than log a find, he logged his visit as a note. It was how he played the game.

One wonders if this person isn't into some statistic like highest average terrain. It's not to hard to inflate certain numbers by selective logging.

 

In SoCal, if no one logged finds when they were present at the hide, and only logged finds when they personally found the cache rather than someone else in a group, then the total number of finds would drop by probably 75%. The concept of "everyone in the group finds the cache independently" seems to be unheard of in SoCal.

 

Edward

When caching with a group, I generally go along with the group etiquette regarding online logging. I cache to have fun and group caching the fun is going on a hike with a bunch of friends. No point in trying to embarrass my friends by claiming I'm more honest about logging then they are. My experience is that we play three musketeers here and all sign the log who ever finds the cache. Also if one of us hides a cache, the rest will generally log as beta finders. The practice here is to not log online until the first to find after the cache has been published logs it. If the cache owner gives specific credit in the hidden by field or the description, I personally don't log the find. One time I famously did not go along with the group when one of the group left a replacement cache that the others all signed. The cache owner was a friend and everyone else in the group was sure that he would want us to replace the cache for him.

 

I also generally don't claim a find on puzzle till I have solved it. If I'm with a group and we find a puzzle cache, I will log it as a note and only change it to a find when I have solved the puzzle.

 

One other time I didn't log online after signing the log was when I found a cache in a lightpole that you had to remove the access plate to get. This occurred just after a forum discussion on electrical safety where I agreed that putting a cache inside the access plate was not a good idea. I probably should've logged an SBA on that one.

[+wimseyguy]

The only cache I refuse to log a Found It on is one that I haven't found.

 

It seems a bit snooty to refuse to log a Found It just because I thought the cache was beneath me, and that I was too good for it. Who does that?

I'll agree with Mushtang on this. I found it, I'm logging it.

If I think your cache isn't good enough for me, why would I bother even looking for it?

 

There are a few around here that I was involved in hiding, but I've never looked for them. That's what my ignore list is for.

 

I'll save any snark on the OP's reasons since they have already been addressed by others.

[+Kit Fox]

I know of one geocachers who only goes after high terrain caches. He found a geocoin in a 1/1, and rather than log a find, he logged his visit as a note. It was how he played the game.

One wonders if this person isn't into some statistic like highest average terrain. It's not to hard to inflate certain numbers by selective logging.

 

This is mostly correct, he does enjoy his high terrain average. After the 1/1, he decided he didn't like this type of cache, and no longer hunts them. He is the type of geocacher that will hike to the top of a peak to bag the cache on top, but they will freely skip all the "caches along the way," that were placed after the original cache.

 

Another great example of someone who stopped logging finds is Kevin & Susan, who stopped logging finds at 999. I figured they have found at least double or triple that number, but they log these finds as notes.

 

Kevin's log for Iron Mountain.

 

Just another way to play the game.

[+Vater_Araignee]

I didn't understand the snarky comments either. Seems like with some people we are damned if we don't and damned if we do. So that means you need to go with what you believe and don't worry about the snarky people.

When the OP gave his stated reason for doing this as 'to be a jerk to the CO', he set himself up for snarky replies. That being said, if someone chooses not to log a find, why should I care? I log all of mine (unless I forget).

I don't mid the snark as long as they ultimately answer my question, once they fail to do that they are revealing the that they cant see past their nose. In fact me being a jerk towards my brother and somebody taking issue with it reveals something sinister in them. Ya know when it is point blank obvious it's my brother, they should automatically assume the best until I start speaking vulgarities about him and or trash his reputation, he punked me, I punked him back, woopty doo. I knew that there are people who will try to make mountains out of mole but I hope they would at least be capable of answering.

 

Oh well Maybe now they will see fit to add something constructive or not bother posting.

 

 

 

 

 

I DOUBT IT.

[+CoverOfDarkness]

The only one I refuse to find is one I'm not going to go after. My dad grabbed this while he was visiting before I started caching. However, once it's at the very top of my list near my home coords, then I'll go grab it, sign it, and log it. Why? Because even though I know where it is, I'll still have signed it, laid hands on it. Who knows, by the time that happens it might be muggled or archived.

[Clan Riffster]

If I think your cache isn't good enough for me, why would I bother even looking for it?

Because you might not find out it's a turd till you locate it?