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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

 

Yes. Here in the wet side of Washington the only containers that stay dry are ammo cans and lock and locks. Preforms are okay for micros. It is amazing how wet a container designed to hold water can get on the inside when used for a cache container. Every other container will not survive from November to February, they all will be wet inside.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

 

Yes. Here in the wet side of Washington the only containers that stay dry are ammo cans and lock and locks. Preforms are okay for micros. It is amazing how wet a container designed to hold water can get on the inside when used for a cache container. Every other container will not survive from November to February, they all will be wet inside.

I was thinking it was mainly the location too. Here, the watertight test I use is submerging it in water for 10 seconds. If I see any air bubbles I don't use it. I still use bags though.

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What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.
Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

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What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.
Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

 

So do bison tubes work in your area? Even with a nice new fat O-ring?

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What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.
Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

 

So do bison tubes work in your area? Even with a nice new fat O-ring?

 

If the o-ring stays intact, yes. The trick is keeping the o-ring intact with high usage.

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What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.
Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

So do bison tubes work in your area? Even with a nice new fat O-ring?
If the o-ring stays intact, yes. The trick is keeping the o-ring intact with high usage.
I find that starting off with a ring from the local hardware store is best, they have higher quality rubber, or something, than the rings most tubes come with, and are pretty inexpensive, especially when you consider how much you'll spend in gas, etc, to go replace the disintegrated "stock" o-ring. In fact, if you factor in cost of replacing, most of the "Cheapest" cache containers aren't all that cheap if you plan to maintain it.
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How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

 

Me too! Every single one I have found has been wet and yucky inside.

 

As for cheap containers, I take into account that cheap includes the amount of times I have to replace the container. Sometimes it's worth it to get a heavier duty container to begin with because paying for it once might be less than having to buy the container several times.

 

I really find peanut butter jars to be a very good cheap container. They actually stay fairly dry inside.

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As for cheap containers, I take into account that cheap includes the amount of times I have to replace the container. Sometimes it's worth it to get a heavier duty container to begin with because paying for it once might be less than having to buy the container several times.

 

I agree! :o

I really find peanut butter jars to be a very good cheap container. They actually stay fairly dry inside.

 

They are good containers, but the smell remains which the animals love ;)

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Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

 

In Iraq and Oregon it all depends on the placement of the container.

 

Magnetic Hide-a-keys seem to work fine in a lot of the guard rail caches I've found as the guard rail helps shelter from weather.

 

I have a cable-lock style hide-a-key that contains a bison tube inside. The bison tube stays dry, but the chain has rusted after a little over a year.

 

Altoid tins and metal coffee cans rust pretty easy in Oregon. Heck- they rust in Iraq, so they'll probably rust in Cali-zon-xas.

 

I've only found 2 or 3 camo-tape covered ziplocks in Oregon. One was camouflaged to blend in as a leaf in a nook of a tree. It was dry on a wet day. Another was a ziplock bag with a magnet covered in tape stuck in a guard rail. Probably was dry because of the guard rail sheltering it.

 

Every PVC cache I've found has had water in it. Not sure if plumbers tape and/or some sealant would work to fix the issue.

 

M&M minis and chew containers work great in Iraq for cache containers. Use with caution depending on local wild animals in Cali-zon-xas?

 

Stuffed animals (an ashnikes idea): mold city!

 

Rocks & Statuary: most likely you'd want/need a container in/under the object.

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As for cheap containers, I take into account that cheap includes the amount of times I have to replace the container. Sometimes it's worth it to get a heavier duty container to begin with because paying for it once might be less than having to buy the container several times.

 

I agree! :o

I really find peanut butter jars to be a very good cheap container. They actually stay fairly dry inside.

 

They are good containers, but the smell remains which the animals love ;)

 

After washing it out give it a long bleach-bath.

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I said it before and will say it again, Hellmann's mayonnaise jars are perfectly watertight, are clear and essentially free, that is assuming you first consume the contents. I have had one sitting out in the open for about 5 years with no reports of wetness.

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The main reason the interior of cache containers get wet is that there are too many cachers that don't bother to close the container properly.

This runs directly contrary to my own experience. In almost every instance of damp logs I've encountered, the cache container was one of the aforementioned crappy containers, sealed as well as it could be. While improper closing can result in a quality container experiencing a damp interior, crappy containers such as black & grey film cans, hide-a-keys and Altoids tins don't need any closure failure to let moisture in. Besides, how hard is it to close a film can? :o

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Climate matters. When we cached in the semi-arid western U.S, I was amazed to find coffee can caches a couple of years old, dry and doing okay. In Florida, they'd have a dry life expectancy measured in hours.

 

See Snoogan's post above about mini M&M containers. They must work for him in Texas or California.

They were in use in Florida in '03. They were always wet. In fact, there were so reliably wet that mos cache owners didn't even pretend you could sign the log. You emailed them the color of the container! It's been a while since I've seen one, people have gone to film cans - which are sometimes dry. Especially the clear type with the inside fit lid.

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Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

 

i've seen and heard that before (even outside of this forum)... you wanna know the truth...?

 

they don't work great here at all. as a container, they hold up great. as a barrier for moisture, they are matadors. the log gets wet. the solution... zip log baggie inside. the log eventually gets wet(ter). thanks to the intense heat here, that moisture is driven off, sometimes within a few weeks of a cache being visited. sometimes, a cacher finds it, slops the wet log out in the sunlight... and within 10 minutes it is good to sign and move on.

 

most of the time, i don't even bother pointing out there are wet logs. i've grown too accustomed to seeing no reaction.... or "i'm too busy (caching or spamming the countryside with more of these same containers)" or "don't get out that way anymore".

 

the best container... if you run across a cache that has been in place for 4 years or so... has the original log, doesn't look like it has gone through the wet/dry/wet/dry bit... muggle that container.

 

 

 

j/k.

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As for cheap containers, I take into account that cheap includes the amount of times I have to replace the container. Sometimes it's worth it to get a heavier duty container to begin with because paying for it once might be less than having to buy the container several times.

 

I agree! :o

I really find peanut butter jars to be a very good cheap container. They actually stay fairly dry inside.

 

They are good containers, but the smell remains which the animals love ;)

 

After washing it out give it a long bleach-bath.

 

Yep, that's what I do. I haven't had a problem yet.

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How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

 

We found one of those and the last person screwed the top on crooked. Everything was wet and full of bugs. Yuk.

 

Full of BUGS?! Oh no!!! I hate finding bugs in caches. I'm not really that scared of bugs, but opening up a container and having them crawl out is a little squicky for me. Ickers!

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What seems to work for me is to seal one side with PVC cement. I also greased and sanded it which may have helped. It's only 5" long. Of course the location itself rarely gets wet. And I live in SoCal. The location is at a high altitude. It seems to not let in any water.
Let in any water? What water? You could use a paper envelope as a cache container where you are and it would do just fine. :o Come caching in the Northeast (or the Northwest, as jholly pointed out) and you'll see many containers described by SoCalers and Texans as "Works Great!" are actually horrid.

 

Some newbie comes into the forums and asks about the best container to use, the people in dry climates should just sit on their hands and not chime in, as far as I've seen. ;)

 

Ah, but we are experts on what the sun can do to a cache. I can't count how many Lock n' Lock tabs have come off in my hands when I try to open them. While they may be great in other parts of the country, unless they are tucked away in the shade, they won't last a summer in my area.

 

My secret. In Walmart, on the spice self is the generic brand, "5th Season". Medium sized spice container for 50 cents. For that price, you can dump out the contents if you don't need it. Wash it, sanitize it for smell and you have a great container that does not leak and holds up well to the sun, especially if painted with Krylon, or covered with cammo tape. I have dozens of these out there, some as long as five years, and have never experienced a wet log. And yes, it does rain here. It was Altoids tin Armageddon last spring.

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I have been using M&M Minis containers for years. They snap shut with a water resistant seal and can take the wear and tear of even the busiest cache locations.

Of the 20 or so M&M containers that I have found, every one of them has been wet inside and had a moldy log. At least in Ohio, it is one of the worst containers ever.

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Ah, but we are experts on what the sun can do to a cache. I can't count how many Lock n' Lock tabs have come off in my hands when I try to open them. While they may be great in other parts of the country, unless they are tucked away in the shade, they won't last a summer in my area.

 

 

I've always wondered, perhaps you can enlighten me. If the Lock'n'Lock is painted does it still degrade in the sun? I would think the paint provides UV protection.

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Ah, but we are experts on what the sun can do to a cache. I can't count how many Lock n' Lock tabs have come off in my hands when I try to open them. While they may be great in other parts of the country, unless they are tucked away in the shade, they won't last a summer in my area.

 

 

I've always wondered, perhaps you can enlighten me. If the Lock'n'Lock is painted does it still degrade in the sun? I would think the paint provides UV protection.

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After 9key directed me to these TheraPak Medium Canisters I ordered 30 of them. They're heavy grade HDPE with a rubber seal and easy to camo with paint (after working over with a Scotchbrite pad.) I have several of them in the field and they hold up very well. Large enough for a notepad, some swag and travelbugs.

 

I think they would hold up quite well in the wettest of climates.

 

However - If you are looking at Desert Southwest, where it is dry and hot during the summer, with few clouds between February and December then don't even look at plastics. Plastics fare poorly in hot, dry areas particularly where exposed to UV from sunlight. There you need a metal container, preferably ammo boxes for larger hides. Something with a good weather seal for smaller hides. An Altoid tin with a a neoprene gasket might work out.

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Ah, but we are experts on what the sun can do to a cache. I can't count how many Lock n' Lock tabs have come off in my hands when I try to open them. While they may be great in other parts of the country, unless they are tucked away in the shade, they won't last a summer in my area.

 

 

I've always wondered, perhaps you can enlighten me. If the Lock'n'Lock is painted does it still degrade in the sun? I would think the paint provides UV protection.

 

I can't recall ever seeing one that was painted, so I can't really say. My guess is that it may help the actual container, but not the snaps.

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I can't recall ever seeing one that was painted, so I can't really say. My guess is that it may help the actual container, but not the snaps.

 

In Northern California heat, even painted plastic that is left exposed to sunlight seems to break down over time. Put a plastic container under a pile of rocks and it's only a matter of time before the rocks destroy the container. I've lost numerous containers that way. Put the same container in a shelter location (eg: inside a stump and it can last for years and years.).

 

Painted plastics works a bit better. Plastic that's covered with tape works even better but in exposed situations I still see those snaps coming off.

 

I have a PVC pipe cache that's completely covered (fence post) and stays completely dry. I wouldn't recommend pipe caches in most urban settings however as they tend to be associated with pipe bombs by non-cachers.

 

I dont think there's a single right answer to the question about containers. It depends on climate and the hide location.

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TheraPak Medium Canisters

 

I think they would hold up quite well in the wettest of climates.

Doh! How could I forget Therapak jars?

Add those to my list of awesome containers.

I only bought 15, but almost all of those have been hidden or given away. Time to buy some more!

My only issue has been painting them. I found that regular spray paint wouldn't stick very well.

A light scuffing, followed by spray paint specific for plastics, followed by camo spray paint cured that problem.

I really like the gap below the lid, as it allows tethering, something critical where I hide, due to flood conditions.

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I have been using M&M Minis containers for years. They snap shut with a water resistant seal and can take the wear and tear of even the busiest cache locations.

Of the 20 or so M&M containers that I have found, every one of them has been wet inside and had a moldy log. At least in Ohio, it is one of the worst containers ever.

 

Same here in Southern California. An example from April. Hanging MM tube published on day 1, rained on day 2. I visited on day 3 and the log had swelled with water and couldn't be extracted from the tube.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

What is a soda bottle preform?

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

My PVC container has glued cap on one end, threaded adapter on the other. It is 3" diameter and 12" long. The threaded end is sealed with teflon tape allowing for easy removal and replacement of cap. I used a wood burning kit to melt "geocaching.com" into the container. I submerged the container in my spa overnight and after opening container, contents were bone dry.
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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

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When you say "quality", what are your standards? I have a rather biased axiom regarding cache containers, which I like to babble on about at every possible opportunity: "If you must use a baggie to keep your log dry, your container has already failed at a very basic level". This, of course, is just my opinion, and should not be seen as a call for action. Many cachers are perfectly OK with having those folks who seek their hides experience the joy of soggy, moldy logs. While environment and specific location can do a lot to nullify poor container selection, I prefer to use what I consider to be quality containers in all locations. Your mileage may vary.

 

Here are a few containers that meet my "quality" test:

 

Ammo cans are oft considered the most durable of cache containers. I've seen them sell for $4 to $10 for the 30 calibre size.

Lock & Locks are great containers, which, when bought in a set, run a couple bucks a piece.

Soda bottle preforms are currently my favorite micro, as you can drive a truck over them. They run less than a buck each.

Match stick containers are also great, and Wally World sells them for about a buck.

Bison tubes are good. If you buy the el-cheapo fakes, be sure to change out the O-ring. Total combined cost about a buck.

 

Here are a few containers that, according to my biased opinion, absolutely suck:

 

Black & grey film cans.

Altoids tins.

Hide-a-keys.

Camo tape covered ziplock baggies.

Plastic coffee cans.

Metal coffee cans.

Paint ball tubes.

PVC pipe w/caps.

I have a pretty good cache that is made of PVC. If you are talking about 1/2" then I can see why you wouldn't like it, but I use 1 1/2" which makes it possible to fit swag. And if made right can be waterproof. I also stylized it. But that's just my opinion; you are free to feel how you want about it.

How did you make it watertight? I ask because every PVC pipe cache I have found has been wet inside.

I made an ABS container with a glued cap on one end and glued threaded adapter on the other. The threaded end has teflon tape to keep water out and makes removal and replacement of the cap easy and tool free. I used a wood burning iron to melt "geocaching.com" onto the container. After overnight submersion in my spa, contents were bone dry. Might be overkill for the desert where I live, but I'm positive it would stand up to any water that did'nt carry it away.
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I suspect that your cache will end up leaking at some point. That teflon tape is not made for repeated openings and closings and will fail soon.

I guess I forgot to mention that I live in the so cal desert. Our rainy season lasts about 15 minutes and mother nature spreads that throughout the entire year.
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Before I started caching I found my first cache hanging on a bridge. It was hidden in March '05. It was a plastic peanut butter jar. I ended up adopting this cache. I had to move it from the bridge but it's still the same container. It had never had water inside it in spite summer rains and at least one tropical storm. In it's current hiding spot it is completely exposed and usually laying on it's side. Peanut butter jars are my favorite free container. I have seven hidden and they do great.

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My PVC container has glued cap on one end, threaded adapter on the other. It is 3" diameter and 12" long. The threaded end is sealed with teflon tape allowing for easy removal and replacement of cap. I used a wood burning kit to melt "geocaching.com" into the container. I submerged the container in my spa overnight and after opening container, contents were bone dry.

I've only come across 1 exposed PVC pipe cache. It had only been placed a few weeks and there was water on the inside...a previous cacher did not close it tight. The cap was threaded on, but not tightly. I suppose they were trying to make it easier to open for the next person.

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