+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I think it was Rogbarn who had a post way back on these. I have looked for one ever since and thought I would re-open the topic. COLAIR TRIANGULATION STATION Quote Link to comment
ArtMan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Outstanding! Excellent find, GEO! Do any of these aviation beacons or arrows survive in the East? ~ArtMan Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Geo, There are some gigantic concrete arrows over by St. George, Utah that were put up on top of buttes as aide to the pilots, but alas, no benchmarks in them. This is a very interesting find! Something different!! Congrats! Shirley & John Quote Link to comment
+embra Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Do any of these aviation beacons or arrows survive in the East? I recall that someone found one in the mountains just NE of Carlisle, PA (I think I could run it down if you wanted). I haven't yet seen it myself. Quote Link to comment
+JoGPS Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Way to go “BUDDY” have been looking for one of those for the longest time, glad you found one…………. JOE Quote Link to comment
mloser Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would love to know more about the Carlisle one! I searched Zhanna's site and looked for all my local ones in USAPhotoMaps, but didn't see any real evidence that any remained. I would love to see one in person! Matt Quote Link to comment
+jeff35080 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Good find! I have found beacons, but never an arrow. Congrats! Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Just put "beacon" in the Designation search window and set the state to PA and several will come up. There's only one find in the list and it seems to me to be an error. Quote Link to comment
+Airnut Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I found the remains of KW2811 Columbus Phila Airway BCN 30 just north east of Carlisle, PA. on Blue Mountain. I did not see a tower or an arrow. But the arrow might have been covered by leaves. There also was a triangulation station at the location. Sterrett. KW2812. Quote Link to comment
+embra Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Yeah, Airnut...yours was the find I had in mind. Quote Link to comment
+seventhings Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Geo*Trailblazer 1 That is an excellent find! I have never seen an arrow (up close and personal from the ground), and I haven't seen any airway beacons for many years (aside, I think, from one that is actually on the small airport at Blanding, UT and is used as the airport beacon). I have searched for three or four beacons in the MD-DE-NJ corridor, and have logged as many "destroyeds". I recall spotting several beacons in the early 70's but I think that the system had been decommissioned by then. I don't imagine that there are many still standing. I've also spotted dozens of arrows, from the air and mostly in CO and CA, but never have I recovered one as a benchmark. I recall seeing a recovery for an airway beacon near Allentown, PA, in the Goecaching database, but the accompanying photo was of a modern radio mast. Will Quote Link to comment
evenfall Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I have a Friend who is a Fiber Optics and Communications Tech for a local power utility here near Seattle. He said that he thinks the City of Snoqualmie Washington uses a nearby Airway Beacon Tower SE of that town for a microwave tower. He also remembers seeing an Airway tower being used similarly in Eastern Washington, East of Cle Elum and North of the Indian John Rest Area on Interstate 90. He thought the Airway Beacon itself was still mounted on that particular tower, and some civil air tower signage was still mounted on that tower, though the tower is now privately owned. I asked him if he had seen any arrows and he had not, but will keep an eye open now. A google search of Airway Beacon Towers and variations on that theme brings up some interesting history to read on those if anyone is interested. Seems most went out of use during WW II and never turned back on... Very Cool Geo, Very Cool! Rob Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Here is an older thread on Beacons including a pointer to Rogbarn's excellent beacon PID database. Here is a beacon tower find with a picture of a benchmark hunter on it! Quote Link to comment
+Colorado Papa Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Airway Beacon PIDs from the above mentioned string. Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 (edited) Well, Rogbarn's is the better one to use. One improvement I'd suggest on such a table - add another column for the gc.com url for each PID that is in it. Edited September 14, 2004 by Black Dog Trackers Quote Link to comment
+gnbrotz Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 There is a concrete arrow just a few miles from my home on a ridge. There is no disk set in it, and I know of no records specifying it's use as a benchmark, but nevertheless, the arrow does exist. It is broken up, and not in great condition, but not so destroyed that you can't tell what it is. Embra helped myself and another friend track it down and establish coords for it, based on information given to us by local forestry officials. Quote Link to comment
+Me & Bucky Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 There is an Airway Beacon Arrow located south of Las Vegas, NV on a low hill just off of I-15. There is a geocache (The Windsock) nearby, but the real attraction is the Arrow. Here is the view looking north with the arrow and the remnants of the beacon. Here is the tip of the arrow pointing towards Vegas. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 Great I knew there had to be more but was hoping..............well there's always another. Thanks me & bucky,I figured with your finds you had found one. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Here is one of the arrows at St. George, Utah & like the one Bucky & Me posted, it has this cache close by. GC2CA1 - Bloomington Overlook It is slightly different looking than all of the others - as in *huge* & points directly at the St. George airport. Shirley~ Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 The COLAIR is *HUGE as well.You just can not see it all it looks just like the others except under mesquite bushes,It has been abandoned a long time. you are seeing just the arrow of it the square base is behind it then what was a fuel building. It too points directly at the runway and direction of the strip. I live too far away to maintain a good cache there but have the Border Patrol and the History Museum along with Geocaching friends working on it. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 (edited) Researched a little & found this HO0622 Airway beacon. The beacon seems to be cut down, but the arrow is still there. So, I guess the real mark is destroyed? To bad.... Also, this is GC15C4 Shinob Kibe Cache that has more info about the arrow & another link to some great pictures of the mesa. Edited September 15, 2004 by 2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Quote Link to comment
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