+flask Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 where can i get the datasheets in a format that will convert properly? Quote Link to comment
+billwallace Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 where can i get the datasheets in a format that will convert properly? You can start here at the NGS site. Just click the DATAHEETS button and there will be various options for retrieving datasheets. The text result can be copied and pasted into notepad and saved as a .txt or .dat file. Then use that file with ngs>>gpx. You can download datasheet files for a whole county here at Holoscene's site. good luck and welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment
foxtrot_xray Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Hello, You can also download entire state's DAT from the NGS FTP site, OR, if you just want to convert an individual sheet, you can view the sheet in your browser (from going to the NGS website) and do a "File" -? "Save As" and select 'Plain Text'. Cheers, Mike Quote Link to comment
+billwallace Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 .... "File" -? "Save As" and select 'Plain Text'. Aha, that is much easier than the copy and paste - thnx Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) I start with http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com/index.html to browse benchmarks in my area. Build a list of PIDs that I would like to look for and [submit] the list, which returns a result at the http://www.ngs.noaa.gov website, then click [select All] followed by [Get Datasheets]. I save that result as a text file to my hard drive, run it through NGS>>GPX, then import the GPX into GSAK. Edited September 26, 2009 by fegan Quote Link to comment
foxtrot_xray Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I start with http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com/index.html to browse benchmarks in my area. Build a list of PIDs that I would like to look for and [submit] the list, which returns a result at the http://www.ngs.noaa.gov website, then click [select All] followed by [Get Datasheets]. I save that result as a text file to my hard drive, run it through NGS>>GPX, then import the GPX into GSAK. That'll work! I download state-wide archives from the NGS's FTP and keep all states in seperate GSAK databases. Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) I download state-wide archives from the NGS's FTP and keep all states in seperate GSAK databases. I was going to ask how...but I just found a link to download by county: http://www.holoscenes.com/special/geocac/ds_archive.html Of course, it's not on the NGS website. If you have a link for them, I would appreciate it. TIA Edited September 29, 2009 by fegan Quote Link to comment
foxtrot_xray Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 The NGS files are kept here: ftp://ftp.ngs.noaa.gov/pub/DS_ARCHIVE/ Standard anonymous login (user: anonymous; password: <your e-mail>) Their organization seems a little wonky, because now - that I noticed - you can get last month's archives in /ARCHIVE/LAST_MONTH, dated the beginning of September. Cheers. Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 The NGS files are kept here: ftp://ftp.ngs.noaa.gov/pub/DS_ARCHIVE/ Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Unfortunately, unless somebody has another method, it looks like I'm back to processing in smaller quantities. I downloaded the Florida archive and pre-processed with NGS>>GPX then attempted to load it into GSAK...Out Of Memory. Quote Link to comment
foxtrot_xray Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Unfortunately, unless somebody has another method, it looks like I'm back to processing in smaller quantities. I downloaded the Florida archive and pre-processed with NGS>>GPX then attempted to load it into GSAK...Out Of Memory. If I can ask (since I'm the author of the program) - which program gave you the error - GSAK or NGS>GPX? I'm working (slowly, especially now due to having to move) on v3, which will stop all the memory usage, but I thought it was a rare issue that ony I was coming up with. Thanks! Mike Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I downloaded the Florida archive and pre-processed with NGS>>GPX then attempted to load it into GSAK...Out Of Memory. If I can ask (since I'm the author of the program) - which program gave you the error - GSAK or NGS>GPX? I'm working (slowly, especially now due to having to move) on v3, which will stop all the memory usage, but I thought it was a rare issue that ony I was coming up with. Sorry 'bout that...I thought my reply was pretty clear that GSAK was the program that bombed. I think there were 46,000+ benchmarks in the output from NGS>>GPX. Since I know people have GSAK databases with over 100,000 records I wasn't expecting an error. I don't really need the entire state...just figured it would be easier than loading them a few at a time by browsing then at http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com and generating a list of datasheets to download. I have tried downloading an archive for my county from the NGS website, but it always says no archive is available for Volusia county Florida...not sure why. So I figured I would move up to downloading the entire state. Perhaps if they had an FTP for county, rather than state? I might try again...perhaps if I started from a clean boot and fresh load of GSAK. I know GSAK has issue with IE not releasing memory and if I scroll through a lot of caches it will bomb unexpectedly. So, starting off a fresh re-start of my system...and using a split screen mode that doesn't use IE (or simply turing the split off)...could allow me to load the entire state. Thanks for your help! P.S. was going to try again but that FTP site doesn't seem to be working right now. Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 For getting just a county, try this location. Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 For getting just a county, try this location. I've tried that previously. Just did it now to capture the error message... "ERROR - Number of stations exceeds max allowed 1100 Go back an un-click some." I'll just stick with using the http://benchmarks.scaredycatfilms.com website...it works. I guess I'm just spoiled by how easy it is to get PQs for geocaches. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Perhaps if they had an FTP for county, rather than state? I went back to http://www.holoscenes.com/special/geocac/ds_archive.html and downloaded the seven Florida counties I spent the most time in, ran them through NGS>>GPX and now I have them loaded in GSAK. I was trying to build a better mouse trap...but why bother when this one works fine. Quote Link to comment
+fegan Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Unfortunately, unless somebody has another method, it looks like I'm back to processing in smaller quantities. I downloaded the Florida archive and pre-processed with NGS>>GPX then attempted to load it into GSAK...Out Of Memory. If I can ask (since I'm the author of the program) - which program gave you the error - GSAK or NGS>GPX? I'm working (slowly, especially now due to having to move) on v3, which will stop all the memory usage, but I thought it was a rare issue that ony I was coming up with. Thanks! Mike Downloaded the archive and ran it through NGS>>GPX...on a clean start of GSAK was able to get the entire state of Florida to load (46,764 stations). Thanks again! Quote Link to comment
foxtrot_xray Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Downloaded the archive and ran it through NGS>>GPX...on a clean start of GSAK was able to get the entire state of Florida to load (46,764 stations). Thanks again! Cool, good to hear. I believe the state of Cali has the most stations, and on a system with under a gig of memory, my program NGS»GPX will suck up everything it can and possibly crash on that state. I believe Florida's the next largest and that will bog the program down. The next version will use a temporary RDB to store the working fine on disk, instead of in memory. This means a slightly longer processing time, but less system overhead. Quote Link to comment
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