ashnikes Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 blah blah blah I haven't received the reaction I want yet so I will keep posting crap until someone snaps blah blah blah. Yep, we are copyright infringers and we love it! Quote Link to comment
+bittsen Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? The term "muggle" was around WAY before Harry Potter. Quote Link to comment
+Coldgears Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? The term "muggle" was around WAY before Harry Potter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggle Not according to wikipedia. Just checked, all sources legit. Proof otherwise? Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) Muggle(s) isn't "stolen" from anything. Besides, Harry Potter is not a person therefore you cannot steal from him. Muggle dates back to at least 1920, used in various applications. Muggle is also a maneuver within a game of marbles. I will not say what years I played marbles and used the term -- it was a long time ago. Geocaching was not "invented". It was conceived. Caching itself predates written history. Harry Potter, also was not "invented". He was conceived as a fictional character. Seeings as how there is no infringement, nobody has gotten into trouble about it, there is no "copyright" regarding the term. Edited May 31, 2010 by Gitchee-Gummee Quote Link to comment
+buttaskotch Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Does Groundspeak officially use the term "muggle" in its literature? Or perhaps, JK Rowling stole it from Geocaching? More likely she took the phrase from the early usage of the phrase from the early 20th century to mean marijuana or musician. But just to ask a simple question, why do you care? Quote Link to comment
+brslk Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? Are you just trying to stir up stuff? Your short term literature knowledge is ridiculously bad. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? The term "muggle" was around WAY before Harry Potter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggle Not according to wikipedia. Just checked, all sources legit. Proof otherwise? Yup. Wikipedia is the source of all truth. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) The thing about trolling is that it usually works when nothing else will. Throw out a shiney spoon and drag it behind the boat and before long some poor unsuspecting fish will bite on it. It works like that in forums too. Troll a post like the OP and someone is gonna think "Oooh shiney" and bite on it. Our new poster appears to be quite the successful forum fisherman! Edited May 31, 2010 by TheAlabamaRambler Quote Link to comment
+ihorn Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 I am actually being quite entertained by the OP. When people stop paying attention to him then he will just try harder, and more will be had. Just ignore, watch, and . Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? No they have not, but I own the Copyright on the word "copywrite" so you're in trouble now. Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yeah, muggle was ripped from Harry Potter. It's lame if ya ask me. I prefer the term poachers, but whatever. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yeah, muggle was ripped from Harry Potter. It's lame if ya ask me. I prefer the term poachers, but whatever. As far as I remember "Muggles" are those regular folks who go through life unaware of the magic that is all around them, that's how the term applies to this game, people who are around but unaware of the Geocaches all around them. "Poachers" refers to those who take things when they are not allowed? So Muggles who stael Caches would be Poachers, but I wouldn't apply the term to just anyone walking by, but whatever, it's not really important. Quote Link to comment
+simpjkee Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Yeah, muggle was ripped from Harry Potter. It's lame if ya ask me. I prefer the term poachers, but whatever. As far as I remember "Muggles" are those regular folks who go through life unaware of the magic that is all around them, that's how the term applies to this game, people who are around but unaware of the Geocaches all around them. "Poachers" refers to those who take things when they are not allowed? So Muggles who stael Caches would be Poachers, but I wouldn't apply the term to just anyone walking by, but whatever, it's not really important. Thats what people tell me when I throw it out there. I agree. But I still prefer poachers to muggles. Poachers just sounds cooler. Quote Link to comment
+Mr Kaswa Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 (edited) I've always liked the term, "non cachers". Not sure how it does it but it manages to be both more and less lame than "muggles". Edited May 31, 2010 by Mr Kaswa Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? Are you just lonely? Do you need a friend? Would you like to go out for a cup of coffee? Quote Link to comment
ashnikes Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share Posted May 31, 2010 sure! just not starbucks their coffee tastes like death for small coffee farm owners. as for this topic, its interesting, the one topic i was trying to stir trouble with, seems harmless, and is still open for discussion, go figure. Quote Link to comment
+buttaskotch Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 No they have not, but I own the Copyright on the word "copywrite" so you're in trouble now. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 sure! just not starbucks their coffee tastes like death for small coffee farm owners. as for this topic, its interesting, the one topic i was trying to stir trouble with, seems harmless, and is still open for discussion, go figure. Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Why try to stir trouble at all??? Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Why try to stir trouble at all??? <--- Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 That little troll icon is truly adorable actually. Kind of looks like me before I've had coffee in the morning Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 That little troll icon is truly adorable actually. Kind of looks like me before I've had coffee in the morning In my case it would be . Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name? The term "muggle" was around WAY before Harry Potter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggle Not according to wikipedia. Just checked, all sources legit. Proof otherwise? Yes, according to wikipedia. Go back to that link and click on the first link in the article - "For all uses of the terms "Muggle" and "Muggles" other than those related to "Harry Potter", see Muggle (disambiguation)" - and you'll find the Wikipedia article about the early uses of the term. Quote Link to comment
4wheelin_fool Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Sue? How is anyone making money off of using the word? Muggles cause geocachers to lose money, actually.. Quote Link to comment
Great Birds Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 To prevail in a suit for the use of "muggle", the word would have to be protected in some way. While the Harry Potter books are copyrighted, the individual words within are not necessarily covered. Even for coined usages, as applies to muggle. Ms. Rowling would have to have a copyright, trademark or other protection for the word and be willing to make a public fuss about a her fans making a natural extension of the world she created into the real world. Seems pretty unlikely to me, so I'll keep using the term for geocaching. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 love this picture Haven't seen one of those in years! They used to be everywhere, proving once again that people will buy anything! For the graphically challenged: Quote Link to comment
vagabond Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 love this picture Haven't seen one of those in years! They used to be everywhere, proving once again that people will buy anything! For the graphically challenged: LOL I even have his big brother Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 Geocaching dropped "stash" in favor of "cache" to lose the drug connotations, then lots of people started using the term "muggle", which means marijuana, as far as I'm concerned... seemed pretty strange to me, but I'm over it. Also, as the Harry Potter stuff fades away, I keep seeing muggles become mugglers, or mugsters and lately moguls. anyway, I bet it fades from use here over time. I like civilians. Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I saw a whole box of trolls at a table sale over the weekend for £5. I was sorely tempted. I always hated those things and thought they were horrible...but, hey! Whole box full! Quote Link to comment
+DragonsWest Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 I saw a whole box of trolls at a table sale over the weekend for £5. I was sorely tempted. I always hated those things and thought they were horrible...but, hey! Whole box full! View it as potential swag. I know people who have these on their desks. Quote Link to comment
+Gamaliel Posted June 1, 2010 Share Posted June 1, 2010 You can't copyright a word. That's why Monty Python could write a skit about spam, and early internet users could take that skit and coin the word for unwanted email. You can trademark a word, but your trademark rights only go so far. Kleenex and Lego and Xerox write letters saying "please refer to our product as Kleenex brand tissues" etc. No one listens, no one gets sued. If someone wrote a book called Harry Geocacher Versus the Muggles, then Rowling would have grounds to sue, likely. Short of that, nope. IANAL, of course. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 love this picture OMG! I'VE BEEN RICK TROLLED!! Quote Link to comment
+BulldogBlitz Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yeah, muggle was ripped from Harry Potter. It's lame if ya ask me. I prefer the term poachers, but whatever. As far as I remember "Muggles" are those regular folks who go through life unaware of the magic that is all around them, that's how the term applies to this game, people who are around but unaware of the Geocaches all around them. my 11 yo son sees that.... and is (ashamed... shocked... don't know the descriptor really) that we were muggles for "all this time". however now.... every place looks like a good place for a cache... every car pulling off the road is "going to a cache"... he's turned from muggle to very paranoid in a few short months. Quote Link to comment
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