+EscapeFromFlatland Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 http://blog.geocaching.com/2010/12/one-wom...-national-park/ hydnsek, who oversaw the great Going APE event at Geowoodstock this year, opened a dialogue with receptive park managers at North Cascades National Park about earthcaches and physical geocaches. The result: approval for physical caches at the park. Congrats, hydnsek! Educating and working with public land managers can yield rewards! Perhaps the park will become known as North Cache-cades in the future. :-) Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Awesome! Outstanding work. Quote Link to comment
+addisonbr Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Wow. That's fantastic. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Wow. That's fantastic. No kidding! That's HUGE! Great work, and thanks, hydnsek! Quote Link to comment
+JoesBar Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 "That's one small step for a woman. One giant leap for geocaching." Kudos on the good work! Quote Link to comment
+Castle Mischief Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Very good news. I hope this spreads across the country. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 This is fantastic news! Quote Link to comment
+michigansnorkelers Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Congratulations on this important achievement. A geocacher's dream. Quality caches in quality locations! Quote Link to comment
+John in Valley Forge Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 That's great to hear. I hope it works out well and that the news spreads to other park managers. Quote Link to comment
+hydnsek Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) Wow, I gotta peruse this forum more often. Thanks to my Oregon neighbor for the shout-out, and to all of you for the kind words. I'm happy to spread the word that getting physical caches in national parks is possible (I know there are a few in the eastern US as well). If it gives other cachers some ideas for working with their parks, all the better. Plus, this project led to creation of WSGA's Park Liaison Program, our framework for working with parks at all levels (city, county, state, federal). Geocaching has exploded in popularity, so maintaining good relationships with the parks is more important than ever. Cache on! Footnote: Since bramasoleiowa mentioned my Going APE event (part of GW8)...we're going to rinse and repeat next summer! The Tunnel of Light should reopen in early summer (if repairs stay on schedule and weather cooperates) - woo hoo! I'm thinking of hosting two events: - Riding the Iron Horse, a tunnel-warming bike ride in June, mainly for locals, which will let folks ride through the tunnel to the APE cache and then down the Iron Horse trail for 20+ miles, picking up caches along the way. - Going APE...All Over Again on Aug. 21, coinciding with the Groundspeak Block Party mega-event (Aug 20), for our regional/national visitors. No buses or registration fees this time, just a big party at Hyak (venue for the first Going APE event), and folks can walk/bike through the tunnel to the APE. Of course, both of these require permissions from WA State Parks, but fortunately we have a good relationship with them, too. Edited December 10, 2010 by hydnsek Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 You done good girl!! Big applause, big applause! Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) Great work! It is nice to see that earthcaching in national parks need not exclude traditionals. That it can lead to the kind of relationships that expand geocaching. In my area earthcaching has allowed me to raise the subject of traditional caching with park managers, but the locals are a long way from approving containers. Maybe the managers will talk to one another and realize that caching can be allowed on federal land without causing undue problems. In any event it will be nice to have another example for our manager to consider the next time we have occasion to talk. Edited December 10, 2010 by mulvaney Quote Link to comment
+busterbabes Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Just stumbled across this thread and KUDOS to you for getting the impossible done! As a BOD member of IowaGeocachers.org, and trying to work with the Iowa DNR on their cache placement rules on state land (2 per state owned area, whether it be 2 acres or 500 acres), your accomplishment is a HUGE win for geocaching! Thank you for your efforts, and if the National Parks are re-thinking the geocaching policy, I am hoping Iowa DNR will take a second look at their geo-policies! ~Jenni Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nice job but now that we have opencaching with its no rules policy and no review process the need for permission has been eliminated. Quote Link to comment
+GeoReapers Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Major kudos to you. I read this blog entry a while ago, but I know it is no small accomplishment and commend you for it. State parks can also be very receptive to geocaches, it is just about building those relationships (we recently placed on in a local state park and the ranger was very accommodating). Quote Link to comment
+geocat_ Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 That is really great to hear! Congratulations! Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nice job but now that we have opencaching with its no rules policy and no review process the need for permission has been eliminated. I HOPE that was irony. Placing caches where they are not allowed - or are restricted - without permission will lead to more places banning caches. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Might as well bust your bubble now, but as a local LEO that does not approve of PMO caches, and nothing to be done about them by Groundspeak to allow PMO virtuals or caches of any type in National Parks, I will lobby to prevent them unless they be open to basic members of any geocache listing services. Quote Link to comment
+Walts Hunting Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Nice job but now that we have opencaching with its no rules policy and no review process the need for permission has been eliminated. I HOPE that was irony. Placing caches where they are not allowed - or are restricted - without permission will lead to more places banning caches. That is right and why the aforementioned website in the long run will harm the hobby. Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Might as well bust your bubble now, but as a local LEO that does not approve of PMO caches, and nothing to be done about them by Groundspeak to allow PMO virtuals or caches of any type in National Parks, I will lobby to prevent them unless they be open to basic members of any geocache listing services. Well, it's nice to know that you're using your position as a law enforcement officer to implement personal agendas that have nothing to do with your appointed duties or the laws you're sworn to uphold. Perhaps I can think of some ways to abuse my official position as well. So much to think about. Edited January 20, 2011 by hzoi Quote Link to comment
+Sioneva Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Might as well bust your bubble now, but as a local LEO that does not approve of PMO caches, and nothing to be done about them by Groundspeak to allow PMO virtuals or caches of any type in National Parks, I will lobby to prevent them unless they be open to basic members of any geocache listing services. Well, it's nice to know that you're using your position as a law enforcement officer to implement personal agendas that have nothing to do with your appointed duties or the laws you're sworn to uphold. Perhaps I can think of some ways to abuse my official position as well. So much to think about. Ignore him... I'm guessing he's upset because PMO caches are less likely to be cross-listed on another hosting site that I will not name. Quote Link to comment
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