+JL_HSTRE Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Almost every nano I have ever found is a blinkie (nearly always magnetic but I've found a couple drilled into or glued onto a larger host object). The one exception I've seen was a container for mechnical pencil refills. (That was actually the first cache I ever looked for; the container was not described - nor was "nano" mentioned - in the cache description so I didn't know.) I've also seen a few references online to very small bison tubes being classified as nanos, but I've never seen a bison tube that small in person. Have you encountered any other nano caches of the non-blinkie variety? Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 The first very small micro caches I encountered were tdjvolks quarks. These were the tip of a bic type pen, cut and reglued. I copied this hide. Didn't have much luck with keeping the log dry. Quote Link to comment
+Starkes Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I found one that was a steel bolt with a hole drilled in the shaft for the log sheet and the hexagonal head was a cap that screwed on and off. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I've seen and found the mini bison tubes. They are called pet collar id tubes. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 To go off on a slightly different tangent: Since the term "Nano" is not officially recognized by the Groundspeak size scale, designating a cache as such is mostly up to the owner's interpretation. I've found caches labeled as nanos that were blinkies, small bison tubes, plant feeder tubes, tiny centrifuge tubes, regular bison tubes, those cheap plastic cylinders found inside some bison tubes and even one film can. I would like to see Groundspeak create a nano size someday. Quote Link to comment
+Too Tall John Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I've seen and found the mini bison tubes. They are called pet collar id tubes.Like this? Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 To go off on a slightly different tangent: Since the term "Nano" is not officially recognized by the Groundspeak size scale, designating a cache as such is mostly up to the owner's interpretation. I've found caches labeled as nanos that were blinkies, small bison tubes, plant feeder tubes, tiny centrifuge tubes, regular bison tubes, those cheap plastic cylinders found inside some bison tubes and even one film can. I would like to see Groundspeak create a nano size someday. It's on the list of accepted feature request in the feedback forum. I found a cache in South Africa that was a small metal tube (smaller in diameter than a blinky) and about an inch long. It had little rubber caps on each end a small earth magnet glued to the middle. I've never seen another container like it but would definitely consider it a nano cache. Quote Link to comment
+webscouter. Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I've seen a magnet glued to the barrel clasp of a necklace used as a nano. Quote Link to comment
+mpilchfamily Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I've seen a 20 oz bottle top. Top cut off about 1/4 inch below the cap. The end was filled with epoxy and magnets stuck in the epoxy. Making a cap sized area for the log. It was placed in a medium sized cache as swag. Quote Link to comment
+WRASTRO Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 About 1/2 of a .22 LR cartridge. The cap of a toothpaste tube. A bison like conatainer almost as big as the little acorn style container. And a couple of small ones. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 As others have mentioned, there is no single definition of a nano-cache. My personal definition is that the container is big enough to contain only a custom-fit log sheet. As such, I consider small Bison tubes to be nano-caches. The "Scuba Tank" and "Extra Large" size Bison tubes are larger, and I consider them non-nano micro-caches. I've found a number of non-blinker nano-caches. The pet ID tags described above are the smallest I've found, although a couple custom containers have been close. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Another type that I have seen which *could* have been made smaller than it was was a cache made from a small duct tape "envelope". It actually gave me a bit of trouble because it was hidden on a guard rail and I was expecting a different kind of container. Quote Link to comment
+JL_HSTRE Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Another type that I have seen which *could* have been made smaller than it was was a cache made from a small duct tape "envelope". It actually gave me a bit of trouble because it was hidden on a guard rail and I was expecting a different kind of container. I've seen those a couple times. One time I wasn't even sure it was the cache I was looking for and had to message the CO to confirm. The second time I had trouble finding it because it was silver duct tape inside a guardrail so it blended really well. I've heard these usually called a "Slim Bob" and the duct tape envelope is often formed aroud a tiny ziplock baggie. But I'm not sure I'd consider these a nano though because it doesn't require a custom logsheet nor a tool to remove the log. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 But I'm not sure I'd consider these a nano though because it doesn't require a custom logsheet nor a tool to remove the log.I don't think requiring a tool to remove the log is really part of what makes a nano-cache a nano. I've never used a tool to retrieve the log from any of the blinkers or other nano-caches I've found. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As others have mentioned, there is no single definition of a nano-cache. My personal definition is that the container is big enough to contain only a custom-fit log sheet. As such, I consider small Bison tubes to be nano-caches. The "Scuba Tank" and "Extra Large" size Bison tubes are larger, and I consider them non-nano micro-caches. I've found a number of non-blinker nano-caches. The pet ID tags described above are the smallest I've found, although a couple custom containers have been close. Any container that doesn't take a pre-made notebook has a "custom-fit log sheet." Even the "scuba tank" needs a strip cut to a particular size. So I can't see that as definition of nano. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As others have mentioned, there is no single definition of a nano-cache. My personal definition is that the container is big enough to contain only a custom-fit log sheet. As such, I consider small Bison tubes to be nano-caches. The "Scuba Tank" and "Extra Large" size Bison tubes are larger, and I consider them non-nano micro-caches. I've found a number of non-blinker nano-caches. The pet ID tags described above are the smallest I've found, although a couple custom containers have been close. Any container that doesn't take a pre-made notebook has a "custom-fit log sheet." Even the "scuba tank" needs a strip cut to a particular size. So I can't see that as definition of nano.The difference (in my mind) is that the custom fit log of a smaller Bison tube fills it, while the custom fit log of a "Scuba Tank" Bison tube doesn't fill it. There is room for a pencil stub or for small trade items. Quote Link to comment
+JJnTJ Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Once I find a suitable place, I have every intention of hiding half of a contact lens case. Should be easy to open, and waterproof, but will require an interestingly-shaped log sheet. Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I've seen the little microcentrifuge tubes, even hidden a couple. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Once I find a suitable place, I have every intention of hiding half of a contact lens case. Should be easy to open, and waterproof, but will require an interestingly-shaped log sheet. Hmmm, I'll have to keep that idea in mind. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I've found a few caches that used half a contact lens case. They do work well. The best approach I've seen for the log is to use a strip of paper about half as wide as the diameter of the circular compartment, and to fold it accordion-style into a rectangle that fits completely within the circular compartment. It's a bit of a problem when the log is too big, and the corners have to be folded over or mashed down to get the log to fit. I suppose you could also do a thinner strip and roll it, the way blinker logs are rolled. But that would be more hassle to sign and replace. Quote Link to comment
+JJnTJ Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'd have been shocked if I was the first to think of this. I'm glad to hear they work well in practice. I was thinking that if you cut the log paper so that it was a little narrower (1/8"?) than the diameter of the interior of the case, then folded it so that the "pages" were square, then cut off the corners when it was folded up, you'd still have a usable log. It'd be sort of like making a paper snowflake. Or just staple a bunch of paper circles, cut just smaller than the container. Quote Link to comment
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