+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Ok have been around friends that have done this for years now and just getting into it on my own. Want to start to "Hide" my own and when looking into inputting/registering them online they say once you get a number you then have to put that on the cache itself. What if you placed something very remote and chances to get back are limited. Can you register the cache and then place/hide it with the number and then update the info once you have the coordinates? Quote Link to comment
cheryl1701 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 you "should" have the GC number on the box but this is not mandatory. Don't listen to the people who are sticklers for rules. do you really think a nano has the GC code on it? Don't bother for now, if it really is remote, no one but a geocacher will find it anyway. but maybe put the name of the cache on it so players who do not have paperless GPS will know which one they have found Quote Link to comment
+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks you "should" have the GC number on the box but this is not mandatory. Don't listen to the people who are sticklers for rules. do you really think a nano has the GC code on it? Don't bother for now, if it really is remote, no one but a geocacher will find it anyway. but maybe put the name of the cache on it so players who do not have paperless GPS will know which one they have found Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 You're talking about the GC code. Reading through the placement guidelines, it does sound like it's mandatory: To avoid confusion and alarm when a cache is discovered accidentally, clearly label it as a "geocache" and include the GC code on the outside of the container. Transparent containers help to show that the contents are harmless. If the container has any military markings, we recommend permanently covering these or removing them. Include a printed "cache note" inside your cache to explain what it is and to provide a brief description of geocaching. I view this as recommended but not mandatory. I'll confess, I don't normally bother with the GC code. I'll put "Official Geocache," the name of the cache, our team name, and "log on geocaching.com" on it (or in the log if the camo doesn't allow labeling). My question is, how remote is it? Because if it can be considered a "vacation cache," that is, you placed it somewhere far away from home, it might not get published in the first place. Since you don't have any geocache hides yet, your reviewer won't have an idea of what your normal caching area is. So, be prepared to have that conversation with the reviewer once you submit the cache for publication. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Before putting out your "remote" caches, with the possibility of having their publication refused by your reviewer, you might like to follow this topic about Cache maintenance. MrsB Quote Link to comment
+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 I do adventure motorcycling. I have been to and plan on returning to the most remote place in North America(by road). I did not place a cache the first time but would like to the next. I would not be too keen on having to go back again just to put a code on the cache and then return. I have other very remote locations i go to every year or so but no guarantee of getting back to original location. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I do adventure motorcycling. I have been to and plan on returning to the most remote place in North America(by road). I did not place a cache the first time but would like to the next. I would not be too keen on having to go back again just to put a code on the cache and then return. I have other very remote locations i go to every year or so but no guarantee of getting back to original location. When you complete your cache submission form, there's a sequence of steps where you fill in information for your cache page. When you get to p.5 of the submission form you get a 'Preview' button. When you click this it gives you the view of what your cache page will look like - This includes the GC number allocated to your cache - It's shown in the top right corner, as on all cache pages. So, you have your number all ready to go onto your cache container. Once you've previewed your cache details you then have the option to either continue editing, or, there's a box where you confirm that the cache is in place, ready to be found and you want the listing to go for review. Make sure that you have hidden the cache before sending the cache for review - If you've done it all correctly and the reviewer is happy with it then he/she will publish it and immediately cachers will get notifications and will be eagerly dashing off to find it. MrsB Quote Link to comment
+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks i did not want to get too far into it and actually register a cache going thru those pages before i was ready. Reading thru cache maintenance i totally get why they want them maintained. I also see some on maps that i would very much doubt get much attention if any. They mention people that only live somewhere for 6 months of the year, that would totally exclude them since they would be 6 months somewhere else? I have property 8 hours away and am there regulary but then that distance may discriminate me just on distance. Thanks for the response i will be starting local and then move out to my other locations. Quote Link to comment
+NanCycle Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks i did not want to get too far into it and actually register a cache going thru those pages before i was ready. Reading thru cache maintenance i totally get why they want them maintained. I also see some on maps that i would very much doubt get much attention if any. They mention people that only live somewhere for 6 months of the year, that would totally exclude them since they would be 6 months somewhere else? I have property 8 hours away and am there regulary but then that distance may discriminate me just on distance. Thanks for the response i will be starting local and then move out to my other locations. The distance of 8 hours away is not necessarily a problem; the important factor would be the definition of "regularly." IMO (and I'm not the reviewer, so my opinion is worth nothing), once a month is regularly but once a year is not. Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The bottom line is, the volunteer reviewer has the final say on whether your maintenance plan is good enough. You can always ask them ahead of time whether they'd approve a cache given these facts. Some are busier than others, so you might not get an answer right away, but starting a dialogue with the local reviewer is the best way to find out. You can find out who the local reviewer is by checking out caches in that general area, and scrolling all the way down to the beginning of the logs -- whoever published the cache is probably the one you need to work with. (Or can point you to the right one.) If the area you're considering has some interesting geology, there's another option -- you could write up an earthcache. Since there's no container, you don't have to necessarily return, ever. Just write up an earthcache that will stand the test of time. Quote Link to comment
+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 OK just a bit more but not trying to start a big argument. What if the cache is not accessible in winter like most around here( they do post as not accessible in winter)? That's at least 3-5 months depending on where you live up here. I am going to get in touch with a reviewer and get to the heart of this though. Thanks for the help Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Don't know about anyone else, but I didn't view any of this as an argument, so no worries. I don't think the inability to visit a cache when no one else could, either, would weigh against you. It's just going to come down to whether your reviewer is comfortable with your maintenance plan. If they're good with it, you're golden. Quote Link to comment
+Blue and Grey Boy Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thanks That sound like the best approach. I guess if i have to go back regularly to maintain it, my wife will have to understand it is something i must do. Quote Link to comment
+ras_oscar Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Thanks i did not want to get too far into it and actually register a cache going thru those pages before i was ready. Reading thru cache maintenance i totally get why they want them maintained. I also see some on maps that i would very much doubt get much attention if any. They mention people that only live somewhere for 6 months of the year, that would totally exclude them since they would be 6 months somewhere else? I have property 8 hours away and am there regulary but then that distance may discriminate me just on distance. Thanks for the response i will be starting local and then move out to my other locations. The reviewer may ask you to describe your cache maintenance plan. S/he may also ask for your home coordinates if you don't have a large radius of found logs yet. Nothing you have described is insurmountable, just a couple extra measures to ensure your cache continues to gather favor points for years to come. Quote Link to comment
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