Dirtbag Geocaching Society

[+JL_HSTRE]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

Edited August 5, 2013 by Keystone
Removed potty language.

[+SwineFlew]

Where is my popcorn!

[JASTA 11]

More info needed.

[+Walts Hunting]

Google is your friend

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=dirtbag+geocaching+society&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari

[Clan Riffster]

The purpose of the DGS is to have fun.

[+JL_HSTRE]

Google gave rather limited answers. "To have fun" is a pretty vague notion too, and one I'm a little skeptical about their intentions of their given they call themselves "dirtbags" and describe themselves as "the underworld of geocaching."

 

That guy just a month or so ago who posted a video about stealing caches and holding them for ransom seemed to think that would be fun. There are clearly some folks who think armchair logging is fun, or that the Guidelines cut into their fun. Extreme caches and armchair logging seem opposite ends of the caching spectrum. Which kind of "fun" is the DGS promoting?

 

I was hoping to hear from some folks who had first-hand experiences with the DGS, positive or negative.

 

(Edited to explain myself better.)

Edited August 5, 2013 by Joshism

[Mr.Yuck]

I would describe it as a Geocaching organization, mostly made up of people who have met each other through the U.S. military, and mostly the Army. Since they probably like the publicity, and I'm not so sure I want to give it to them, not unlike Forest Gump sitting at the bus stop, that's all I have to say about that.

[+davetherocketguy]

Google gave rather vague answers.

 

This includes their web site and Facebook page. "Darkside" of geocaching? Whatever...

 

"To have fun" is a pretty vague notion too. The guy who posted a video about stealing caches and holding them for ransom seemed to think that would be fun.

 

I glanced through their YouTube channel and I didn't see that. What was the name of that video? From the videos that I did see, I got the impression these are folks that have a real aversion to micros and want to place something a little more creative. That part isn't a bad thing. Stealing caches and the like well...that's pretty tasteless if that's what they are promoting. And speaking of tasteless, that talking like a gangster crap is just making them look real dumb.

[+Mudfrog]

Google gave rather vague answers.

 

This includes their web site and Facebook page. "Darkside" of geocaching? Whatever...

 

"To have fun" is a pretty vague notion too. The guy who posted a video about stealing caches and holding them for ransom seemed to think that would be fun.

 

I glanced through their YouTube channel and I didn't see that. What was the name of that video? From the videos that I did see, I got the impression these are folks that have a real aversion to micros and want to place something a little more creative. That part isn't a bad thing. Stealing caches and the like well...that's pretty tasteless if that's what they are promoting. And speaking of tasteless, that talking like a gangster crap is just making them look real dumb.

 

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

[+JL_HSTRE]

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

 

I didn't mean to say he was; I have edited my post above to be clearer.

 

Until recently I only knew one self-proclaimed "dirtbag" and he is the type to go swamp tromping after ammo cans. But then recently I have had others circulate lists of TB #'s so they could armchair log TBs they've never been in the same state with much less seen. I have also heard stories about them facilitating armchair logging of caches too. "Fun"?

[+davetherocketguy]

Ok well...when you've got some facts on the Dirtbags let me know. Just because they have that name really doesn't mean anything. Joshism, you've just "heard" things so as far as I am concerned it's just speculation at this point.

[+JL_HSTRE]

when you've got some facts on the Dirtbags let me know.

 

That is the point of this thread: to get such information.

[Mr.Yuck]

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

 

I didn't mean to say he was; I have edited my post above to be clearer.

 

Until recently I only knew one self-proclaimed "dirtbag" and he is the type to go swamp tromping after ammo cans. But then recently I have had others circulate lists of TB #'s so they could armchair log TBs they've never been in the same state with much less seen. I have also heard stories about them facilitating armchair logging of caches too. "Fun"?

 

Oh what the heck. They love the publicity, and are probably reading this thread intently.

 

I find them a very strange bunch, in that one wouldn't normally associate people who hate micros and like to go tromping around swamps looking for ammo boxes with people who engage in lame, cheesy practices such as logging caches they've never visited, or circulating lists of TB's. I can only conclude they like to push the envelope, and thumb their noses at authority, even in cases where that authority (Groundspeak, in this case) is generally considered to be correct in their assessment of a particular issue.

 

I wouldn't read anything into the use of the word Dirtbag. The word Dirtbag is widely used in the U.S. Army, and could even be considered a term of endearment. It's actually a perfect name for a mostly Army Geocaching organization.

[Mr.Yuck]

Ok well...when you've got some facts on the Dirtbags let me know. Just because they have that name really doesn't mean anything. Joshism, you've just "heard" things so as far as I am concerned it's just speculation at this point.

 

First of all, I didn't read every post carefully, and I see that Johism made the same observation that some of their antics are at the opposite ends of the Geocaching spectrum (i.e. promoting quality caching, but engaging in armchair logging). That's what makes them, um, strange.

 

OK, Davetherocketguy:

 

Fact#1: The DGS is a prolific host of Geocaching events. Many of them are streamed live on the internet on the popular website ustream.com. They encourage people who didn't attend the event, but watched the streaming video, to log an attended for the event.

 

Fact#2: If a member places a cache anywhere in the world, many other members will armchair log the cache as found.

 

News to me before today: Circulating lists of TB's.

[+Mudfrog]

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

 

I didn't mean to say he was; I have edited my post above to be clearer.

 

Until recently I only knew one self-proclaimed "dirtbag" and he is the type to go swamp tromping after ammo cans. But then recently I have had others circulate lists of TB #'s so they could armchair log TBs they've never been in the same state with much less seen. I have also heard stories about them facilitating armchair logging of caches too. "Fun"?

 

I actually didn't think you were implying this with your original reply. Was posting to let Dave know.

 

Like Yuck said, it doesn't sound right that they would go along with armchairing anything if they tend to stay away from the lame and in fact, go for the more challenging hides and finds. Went to the DGS website but i did not find much in the way of details there. Tried the DGS fb page but since i hardly ever use the site, didn't know how to navigate it. From the little i've found, DGS does look interesting!

[+Mudfrog]

Ok well...when you've got some facts on the Dirtbags let me know. Just because they have that name really doesn't mean anything. Joshism, you've just "heard" things so as far as I am concerned it's just speculation at this point.

 

First of all, I didn't read every post carefully, and I see that Johism made the same observation that some of their antics are at the opposite ends of the Geocaching spectrum (i.e. promoting quality caching, but engaging in armchair logging). That's what makes them, um, strange.

 

OK, Davetherocketguy:

 

Fact#1: The DGS is a prolific host of Geocaching events. Many of them are streamed live on the internet on the popular website ustream.com. They encourage people who didn't attend the event, but watched the streaming video, to log an attended for the event.

 

Fact#2: If a member places a cache anywhere in the world, many other members will armchair log the cache as found.

 

News to me before today: Circulating lists of TB's.

 

And then i read this latest post with the 2 facts. Oh well, sounded kinda interesting for a minute or two.

[+Maingray]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

 

Yes.

 

Plus I'd also add in the fact they hold some fun local events.

 

Any social-based caching group which promotes positive interactions, not negative (aka bullying, "my way is the only way") is a good thing, IMO.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Maingray

[+briansnat]

Any social-based caching group which promotes positive interactions, not negative (aka bullying, "my way is the only way") is a good thing, IMO.

 

I certainly agree with that one.

[Mr.Yuck]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

 

Yes.

 

Plus I'd also add in the fact they hold some fun local events.

 

Any social-based caching group which promotes positive interactions, not negative (aka bullying, "my way is the only way") is a good thing, IMO.

 

Conveniently forgetting their rigid anti-lame mirco stance there, aren't you?

[+Maingray]

Not at all, uppermost in my mind .

[Mr.Yuck]

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

 

I didn't mean to say he was; I have edited my post above to be clearer.

 

Until recently I only knew one self-proclaimed "dirtbag" and he is the type to go swamp tromping after ammo cans. But then recently I have had others circulate lists of TB #'s so they could armchair log TBs they've never been in the same state with much less seen. I have also heard stories about them facilitating armchair logging of caches too. "Fun"?

 

I actually didn't think you were implying this with your original reply. Was posting to let Dave know.

 

Like Yuck said, it doesn't sound right that they would go along with armchairing anything if they tend to stay away from the lame and in fact, go for the more challenging hides and finds. Went to the DGS website but i did not find much in the way of details there. Tried the DGS fb page but since i hardly ever use the site, didn't know how to navigate it. From the little i've found, DGS does look interesting!

 

Thier Pinterest page is sort of interesting, although I had thought they posted there more.

[Mr.Yuck]

Not at all, uppermost in my mind .

 

I must have misunderstood your post.

[Pup Patrol]

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=294524

 

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=288909

 

 

B.

[Mr.Yuck]

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=294524

 

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=288909

 

 

B.

 

That second thread was awesome, and I even got a forum signature quote out of the deal. And I like the now departed (no longer works for Groundspeak) Sandy weighing in after the thread was closed.

[+geodarts]

Their Pinterest page is sort of interesting, although I had thought they posted there more.

 

Indeed. I wondered if I detected a Discordian influence in their reference to the logo on the Mayan calendar. Or if the whole thing was an elaborate joke that could have been made up by Edward Abbey. But perhaps I am merely trying to fit them into my frames of reference.

[Clan Riffster]

Google gave rather limited answers. "To have fun" is a pretty vague notion too, and one I'm a little skeptical about their intentions of their given they call themselves "dirtbags" and describe themselves as "the underworld of geocaching."

 

I was hoping to hear from some folks who had first-hand experiences with the DGS.

You already have heard from folks who have had a positive experience.

My comment about them being a group of cachers whose purpose is to have fun, stands.

I doubt you'll find any 'written in stone' agenda for them.

They have fun.

Works for me.

[+davetherocketguy]

Google gave rather limited answers. "To have fun" is a pretty vague notion too, and one I'm a little skeptical about their intentions of their given they call themselves "dirtbags" and describe themselves as "the underworld of geocaching."

 

I was hoping to hear from some folks who had first-hand experiences with the DGS.

You already have heard from folks who have had a positive experience.

My comment about them being a group of cachers whose purpose is to have fun, stands.

I doubt you'll find any 'written in stone' agenda for them.

They have fun.

Works for me.

 

Yep, that's kinda all I am getting from this thread. The Pinterest page has some pretty funny stuff on it.

 

I like this one best:

 

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/d4/70/15/d47015f1bd834e8ac4ac88cc9defe4ea.jpg

 

-Dave

[+SwineFlew]

I think many posts here are the answer about them.

 

I did saw a picture of Signal being hold at gunpoint to the head by some DGS guy. I cant find the picture now.

 

I think thats enough to say about them.

[Clan Riffster]

 

Yep, that's kinda all I am getting from this thread. The Pinterest page has some pretty funny stuff on it.

 

I like this one best:

 

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/d4/70/15/d47015f1bd834e8ac4ac88cc9defe4ea.jpg

 

-Dave

I got a chuckle out of that one.

In talking to DGS members, I think it is inaccurate to say they, as a group, are anti-micro. I think it would be more accurate to say they are anti-lame. Unfortunately, for that particular size designation, those who are so lacking in creativity that they place lame hides, almost exclusively select containers which fit that size group.

[+patw4pbj]

Against my better judgement, I would actually like to chime in on this topic.

 

I am NOT a DGS member, but have attended several of their events and met several of their members. I have found that they are a fun group to be around and host good events, but they do tend to keep to the people they've known for a while, I completely understand that. I do recognize that they are mostly current or past military and that plays a large part in their associations. I am also former military, but from an older generation.

 

You may not understand the virtual logging, but look at it this way... They are inviting their friends and members, who may be stationed in the four corners of the earth, or back home after their service, to join with them over the internet while they gather to have some fun. Then everyone signs the log so the "group" is together again. Who is this hurting?

 

As for passing lists of TBs. I've participated in this, and maybe you've got the wrong idea. At many events (not just theirs), several persons, including myself, bring a collection of TBs, usually geocoins in a binder. Our collection has about 20 coins, but there are others that have nearly 70 or 80 coins in the binders. There is usually a slip of paper available in the binder to take that has the TB numbers on it for all the coins. This is done because it would be very difficult to remove each coin from the binder in order to see the numbers. This would also limit the amount of people who could enjoy the entire collection in a given amount of time and something might get lost or mishandled (some coins are multipart and may break). Not to mention all the hand oil and fingerprints. SO, 30 people attend the event, most everyone gets a chance to look through the binders and admire the coins, but I've only got a handful of printed pages of the numbers... no problem, share the list with your friends.

 

Most people, not just the DGS, have enough honesty in them to log what they feel they've earned and nothing more. There are exceptions, but really, it's only a game.

 

The DGS doesn't need anyone to stick up for them least of all me, but I'm sure most of them couldn't care less about your, or my, opinion of them either. Let them play the game the way they want to and go play yours the way You want to. I'll do the same.

 

Have fun,

Patw4pbj - Pat

[+briansnat]

You may not understand the virtual logging, but look at it this way... They are inviting their friends and members, who may be stationed in the four corners of the earth, or back home after their service, to join with them over the internet while they gather to have some fun. Then everyone signs the log so the "group" is together again. Who is this hurting?

 

It doesn't hurt anything, but it certainly has little to do with geocaching.

Edited August 6, 2013 by briansnat

[+DragonsWest]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

 

It's a group for people who have an underdeveloped sense of fun and have to do something EXTREME because that's what people who market ESPN, X-GAMES, Monster and Rock Star would have you believe - you're not really having sufficient fun unless you're getting amped up over it.

Edited August 6, 2013 by DragonsWest

[Mr.Yuck]

Against my better judgement, I would actually like to chime in on this topic.

 

The DGS doesn't need anyone to stick up for them least of all me, but I'm sure most of them couldn't care less about your, or my, opinion of them either. Let them play the game the way they want to and go play yours the way You want to. I'll do the same.

 

Have fun,

Patw4pbj - Pat

 

They could always start their own Geocaching listing website, where they could all attend events by watching them on Ustream, and armchair log caches they never visited in Afghanistan. As opposed to a website that frowns upon those practices. From what I've seen, their webmaster could probably pull this off on his wordpress powered DGS website.

[+humboldt flier]

The Lost Coast Cachers (Northern Mendocino, Humboldt, And Southern Del Norte) has a member who also maintains a membership in the Dirt Bag Group.

 

She specializes in extreme hides in the most miserable of locations and maintains that is in line with the Dirt Bag philosophy.

 

Muggle No More had an ammo can in an abandoned railroad tunnel with access through a major blackberry thicket.

[Mr.Yuck]

The Lost Coast Cachers (Northern Mendocino, Humboldt, And Southern Del Norte) has a member who also maintains a membership in the Dirt Bag Group.

 

She specializes in extreme hides in the most miserable of locations and maintains that is in line with the Dirt Bag philosophy.

 

Muggle No More had an ammo can in an abandoned railroad tunnel with access through a major blackberry thicket.

 

Sounds like an awesome cache, no doubt about it. I will have to see if I can find it, and her others, and check it out.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Mr.Yuck

[+JL_HSTRE]

When I say armchair logging of TBs I don't mean "looked at coin collection for a minute, given list of all coins that CO has, logged ones possibly not need". Giving out a list of your coins to someone who looks through your collection is up to you.

 

My nametag, which you should only get by meeting me at an event while I am wearing it, has been logged by 4 people from out of state who can be confirmed by their cache logs to have never been to such an event. I subsequently learned this was because a local DGS member circulated a list to his fellow dirtbags of a huge number of TB #'s of locals.

 

Also, DGS may have started amongst military cachers but that doesn't seem to be a requirement anymore.

[+nthacker66]

I may be wrong but i don't think the guy stealing caches is part of that group.

 

I didn't mean to say he was; I have edited my post above to be clearer.

 

Until recently I only knew one self-proclaimed "dirtbag" and he is the type to go swamp tromping after ammo cans. But then recently I have had others circulate lists of TB #'s so they could armchair log TBs they've never been in the same state with much less seen. I have also heard stories about them facilitating armchair logging of caches too. "Fun"?

 

So I live in the state where the dirtbags started. I will admit, when I came back to geocaching after a 2 year hiatus, I was told by others who I thought were my friends, to avoid DGS. They were bad people. They were ruining the game, etc. and so on. I prejudged them until I met some of them. Where there other locals who always shunned me and treated me bad, the dirtbags treated me kindly and warmly. They hold great events, do a lot for the caching community, have very good relationships with local officials and know how to have fun.

 

Their videos and demeanor is just about poking fun at the seriousness of the game and yes, they can be opinionated about uninspired caches - which is fine, I do not blame them. As far as sharing puzzle solutions - they will do that with their own caches. And again, I have never seen them outright share a solution publically. They aren't doing anything any other group of people do when sharing puzzle info. That is nothing new and certainly not JUST a dgs thing. TB's aren't shared electronically either unless the owners consent to it.

 

It just seems this is an annual discussion dredged up by new folks because DGS popularity and scope has grown and people want to perpetuate bad press - why? Because DGS simply doesn't care what the rest of this community claims to be so diverse and accommodating to other styles of play but time and again proves it otherwise - anyone with half a mind can come read the forums and see it is quite the opposite.

 

The DGS is simply a geocaching club. Not a gang, not a bunch of meatheads, but family oriented people who like to have fun while keeping the game light by poking some fund at it and themselves. I cannot say enough nice things about them. They are a great bunch of people whom instead of prejudging, give them a chance and you will see that they are all about fun, no pressure to conform and easy to get along with.

[+nthacker66]

Any social-based caching group which promotes positive interactions, not negative (aka bullying, "my way is the only way") is a good thing, IMO.

 

I certainly agree with that one.

 

Which is the opposite of DGS - they are quite easy to be around. I cannot say the same thing for other groups.

[+nthacker66]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

 

It's a group for people who have an underdeveloped sense of fun and have to do something EXTREME because that's what people who market ESPN, X-GAMES, Monster and Rock Star would have you believe - you're not really having sufficient fun unless you're getting amped up over it.

 

I've yet to see them do anything "EXTREME" beyond what has already been done. Most of the time they simply do events that are no different than any other event. If anything, they seem to enjoy the game and promote it without pressure unlike other groups seem to do. Ever DGS event I went to, one thing they do is go around a circle so everyone can introduce themselves. They make everyone feel included. Other groups events are more like a high school cafeteria where the usual folks congregate together forming their own little thing.

 

You are all prejudging what you do not know. Instead of sitting here bashing them, why not attend one of their events. I think it will change your mind.

[+nthacker66]

I am just appalled but not surprised the moderatos allow a thread like this to stand. God forbid someone poses the question of another geocaching club in such a manner.

[+DantonioG]

I have been hanging out with the original DGS since their beginning. I say "original" because they have now spread all over the country and have multiple chapters.

 

As a whole, the group stands for spreading the fun of Geocaching, amping up Geocache hides, creating caches that are not micros hidden in the woods, and having fun as a group. This is not to be said for 100 percent of the members, because as mentioned earlier, there is no group in any organization that has everyone with the exact same beliefs. There may be individual dirtbags here or there that get the bad reputation that everyone seems to hear about, but that is not to say that they all are that way.

 

The videos where they are making fun of a cacher or are destroying caches are either the people who liked the name of the group and decided to make a video, or are one of the actual members just having a little fun with the local cachers that they actually know.

 

The originals were military, but that isn't at all a requirement to be a dirtbag.

 

Virtual logging of trackables does happen, but that happens with other people and not just the DGS. People share things all the time and "discovering" a trackable isn't any different. I have been to GeoWoodstock and Geocoinfest, both of which are officially sponsored by Groundspeak and I can tell you that I saw individuals handing out their lists, lists of others that were not in their possesion, and hiding coins. Yes, I said hiding coins from their lists. My wife is obsessed with ducks and saw a duck coin in one of the hosts collections of the Geocoinfest that we went to, and when he noticed that she started to write down the code, he told her to stop writing it down, because he had kept that coin and had no intention of returning it back into the field even though the creators of the coin never allowed him to do so. He did not want notifications going out because he had marked it as missing.

 

I could keep going on and on about the DGS with at least 95% of it being extremely positive, but if you have any specific questions, I would rather you just personally ask me by sending a message to me on Geocaching.com, because I would much rather talk about this off the forums, because it usually starts to turn into a giant argument between people who have actually had experiences in the matter and those who have heard something from someone who may or may not have had a bad time going after a cache that wasnt in a light pole and heard that there were people out there with different opinions that were a little different from theirs......... again, ask me anything and get an answer.... just not here.

 

take care, enjoy caching, and see ya on the trails.......

DantonioG

[+ScoutDadNC]

Here is what I have ffound from the times I have interacted and found caches by the DGS. And yes, I once thought differently, but was quickly corrected.

 

- They promote quality caches. They do not like the standard LPC micro. Ir the Bison tube hidden on a branch 500 yards into the woods, when an ammo can would have been good.

 

- They promote fun events. I went to an event at a local country club and they had a swimming area, provided a great cook out, and had lots of fun.

 

- They place new and interesting caches. The like to hide caches in underground tunnels that require crawling and searching in the dark. They have a bunch of them in Fayetteville, but as other membes have been reassigned by the military, the list of locations grows.

 

- They have often very difficult caches. Puzzles that require time and effort to figure out. No just a simple convert letters. They put a lot of time and energy.

 

- They also have interesting ways of figuring out placements

 

http://coord.info/GC1P48H Air Dropped Cache

 

They also have one or two that they have launched with a weather balloon, it had tracking beacons and cameras.

 

- I think that the only thing I have heard about them "Dirtbagging" a cache is when one is published, they run out, grab the FTF, sign the log. And then wait a day or so to log online. To see the frustration of others. Kinda funny. nothing really harmful.

 

They do not do the following to caches

-Destroy

-Steal

-Move away from coords

 

It is a group that allows ustream logging of events because many of them spend long times away from home in foreign countries and cannot go out logging caches.

 

If I have made a mistake in my posting, please accept my apologies.

[+nthacker66]

Here is what I have ffound from the times I have interacted and found caches by the DGS. And yes, I once thought differently, but was quickly corrected.

 

- They promote quality caches. They do not like the standard LPC micro. Ir the Bison tube hidden on a branch 500 yards into the woods, when an ammo can would have been good.

 

- They promote fun events. I went to an event at a local country club and they had a swimming area, provided a great cook out, and had lots of fun.

 

- They place new and interesting caches. The like to hide caches in underground tunnels that require crawling and searching in the dark. They have a bunch of them in Fayetteville, but as other membes have been reassigned by the military, the list of locations grows.

 

- They have often very difficult caches. Puzzles that require time and effort to figure out. No just a simple convert letters. They put a lot of time and energy.

 

- They also have interesting ways of figuring out placements

 

http://coord.info/GC1P48H Air Dropped Cache

 

They also have one or two that they have launched with a weather balloon, it had tracking beacons and cameras.

 

- I think that the only thing I have heard about them "Dirtbagging" a cache is when one is published, they run out, grab the FTF, sign the log. And then wait a day or so to log online. To see the frustration of others. Kinda funny. nothing really harmful.

 

They do not do the following to caches

-Destroy

-Steal

-Move away from coords

 

It is a group that allows ustream logging of events because many of them spend long times away from home in foreign countries and cannot go out logging caches.

 

If I have made a mistake in my posting, please accept my apologies.

 

As far as waiting to wait a day to online log - they certainly weren't the first to do that. If that is considered "dirtbagging" than they aren't the OG's on that lol.

[4wheelin_fool]

Next time I clean out the vacuum cleaner I'll be thinking about them.

[+D Force]

What is the DGS? Is their purpose to encourage creative out-in-the-woods non-micro geocaches? Or is it to promote ignoring the guidelines, facilitate armchair logging of caches, share lists of puzzle cache solutions, and share lists of trackables?

 

Hey, I don't like this guy, but he's definitely been to some DGS events!

[+Maingray]

As I've said many times locally, their past local antics (two+ years ago, which I'm certainly not going to relate here, but DantonioG alludes to) which were off putting in the past have largely vanished. Nice to see them get attention for the right reasons; fun events and pro-quality.

 

To nthackers point, I've yet to see a caching social group in any state that isn't welcoming.

[+JBnW]

Had a random chance opportunity to attend a recent DGS event in Ft. Collins, CO last month. The event had a theme to create caches inspired by the movie The Matrix, and otherwise meet, greet and be merry. Our plans got us there late during the event, but we found the Dirtbags to be friendly and welcoming. Their creations were incredible and cache containers I would love to find out in the wilds.

 

No one provided any opportunity to armchair caches and/or TBs.

 

Is this such a terrible thing?

[+bjmccacher]

They promote challenging caches, I love it!!!

[+CanadianRockies]

Had a random chance opportunity to attend a recent DGS event in Ft. Collins, CO last month. The event had a theme to create caches inspired by the movie The Matrix, and otherwise meet, greet and be merry. Our plans got us there late during the event, but we found the Dirtbags to be friendly and welcoming. Their creations were incredible and cache containers I would love to find out in the wilds.

 

No one provided any opportunity to armchair caches and/or TBs.

But they did Ustream the event and apparently allowed some people to make "brief appearances" from afar. Personally, I think armchair attendance is cheesy.

[+nthacker66]

Had a random chance opportunity to attend a recent DGS event in Ft. Collins, CO last month. The event had a theme to create caches inspired by the movie The Matrix, and otherwise meet, greet and be merry. Our plans got us there late during the event, but we found the Dirtbags to be friendly and welcoming. Their creations were incredible and cache containers I would love to find out in the wilds.

 

No one provided any opportunity to armchair caches and/or TBs.

But they did Ustream the event and apparently allowed some people to make "brief appearances" from afar. Personally, I think armchair attendance is cheesy.

 

and it was their event. so whats the big deal? (i guess the "you play it your way and i'll play it my way" doesnt apply when you all in these forums dont agree with it.)