+budd-rdc Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 But the semi-log plot can give us a limit on how early we might reach the magic number. Assuming exponential growth, it looks to me like we could hit is as early as October. Perhaps we should start a pool? Interesting new data, I hope. Thanks fizzy, for sharing your scientific insight, as always. For people concerned about the end of 6 letter waypoints (old eTrex and Geko users), be sure to look around for software tools that can automate changes to waypoint names (GCxxxxx --> xxxxx) like GSAK and GPX Spinner. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Looks like it is time to update the graphs. I did it a few times during the run-up to the Great Digit Addition, but I didn't update everything like I should have. So now the time has come. First, the growth in the number of caches out there (or at least submitted): A semilog plot shows that it is still sub-exponential: The number of accounts, however, has really increased dramatically: In fact, if you look at the square root of the number of accounts, which used to be linear, you can see something happen about the middle of 2005: In fact, it almost looks like growth in user accounts is approaching exponential: Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 The growth in logs continues apace: But, like the growth in caches, it remains subexponential. Quote Link to comment
+TheAlabamaRambler Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Thanks for the number-crunching, FizzyMagic. The increase in posts has me curious - is there any way to tell if that is indicative of an influx of new posters or of an increase in activity among regular posters? Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 Lil Devil poked me and I realize it has been a long time since I updated these graphs. So I did it tonight. Here's the number of caches: The number of registered cachers: And the number of logs: There is no point doing linear scales any more; all three have become close to exponential, though not quite. Quote Link to comment
+JBnW Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 In fact, if you look at the square root of the number of accounts, which used to be linear, you can see something happen about the middle of 2005: So, in retrospect, any idea what happened in 2005 to cause the increased rate in the number of new accounts? Something GC did? Something a GPS manufacturer did? Critical mass?? Just curious, cool stats do that to me Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 In fact, if you look at the square root of the number of accounts, which used to be linear, you can see something happen about the middle of 2005: So, in retrospect, any idea what happened in 2005 to cause the increased rate in the number of new accounts? Something GC did? Something a GPS manufacturer did? Critical mass?? Just curious, cool stats do that to me One possibility is that is when you could no longer change your account name. People who wanted to rename their account would have to create a new account and copy logs from the old account to the new one. This would have resulted in an increase in the number of accounts and logs. Later they changed so you could request your account be renamed, but many people still find the old forum posts suggesting you just start a new account so they keep doing it. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 When was it that you had to login under an account in order to see the cache coordinates? That could also explain a rise in the rate of new account creation. Thank you Fizzy for updating your charts! I always enjoy looking through this thread when it's bumped. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 When was it that you had to login under an account in order to see the cache coordinates? That could also explain a rise in the rate of new account creation. I think Keystone probably has it. IIRC, it was around then that you had to start logging in to see the coordinates. What is interesting is that there is no corresponding increase in cache placements or logs at the same time. Quote Link to comment
+TrailGators Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Thanks FizzyMagic! This is very interesting data. It looks like the current trend is showing that the number of accounts is increasing by a factor of 10 about every five years. I also have noticed that a much higher percentage of people have heard of geocaching nowadays. Five or six years ago when I mentioned geocaching to friends or coworkers the common reaction was "GEO WHAT?" Edited February 7, 2009 by TrailGators Quote Link to comment
+JBnW Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I wonder of (hope for) the possibility of seeing a similar bump in the rate of new members (soon) from all the local bomb squads creating accounts to find caches in their area so as to avoid the needless detonation of tupperware. Hey, I can hope! Quote Link to comment
+Boots... Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I also wonder if the number of new logs might be a reflection of the number of event caches being hosted in recent years. One event can quickly rack up many logs. This is especially so if you are in a region where multiple-logging of events for each "event-only cache" is considered acceptable practice. It seems that there are more and more events every year. More players, more people that want to get everyone together. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I see what he's getting at. Here I am Mr Deadbeat Cacher (hypothetically) and I've left all or most of my caches for dead. I've moved to the center of the Earth or Mars where there are no caches... well... yet. Anyway, if someone hits my cache or moves my TB then I get an e-mail and while I don't geocache anymore and have no intentions to I still follow the links provided in the e-mail to read the log on the cache page... because reading the e-mail version isn't as pretty. There's an example of an inactive cacher who's last activity date could be as recent as 20 seconds ago... ehh? Chances are though that Mr. Deadbeat cacher isn't bothering to log into the site first, just following the links. If he's not logged in it doesn't count. I don't know how long the login cookies could potentially stick around, though. How long does the site remember your login. I'm logged in every time I visit. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 When was it that you had to login under an account in order to see the cache coordinates? That could also explain a rise in the rate of new account creation. Thank you Fizzy for updating your charts! I always enjoy looking through this thread when it's bumped. So the players could have already been there, just not logging in or writing logs? Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 I've condensed everything into a single semi-log plot. Growth is still sub-exponential (the curves are bending down slightly on this plot). We passed the 100-million log mark last month! Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I see what he's getting at. Here I am Mr Deadbeat Cacher (hypothetically) and I've left all or most of my caches for dead. I've moved to the center of the Earth or Mars where there are no caches... well... yet. Anyway, if someone hits my cache or moves my TB then I get an e-mail and while I don't geocache anymore and have no intentions to I still follow the links provided in the e-mail to read the log on the cache page... because reading the e-mail version isn't as pretty. There's an example of an inactive cacher who's last activity date could be as recent as 20 seconds ago... ehh? Chances are though that Mr. Deadbeat cacher isn't bothering to log into the site first, just following the links. If he's not logged in it doesn't count. I don't know how long the login cookies could potentially stick around, though. How long does the site remember your login. I'm logged in every time I visit. Now or in 2003? Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Update for those interested. Growth has been very steady. Caches per member has stayed remarkably constant, but logs per member continues to increase. Disclaimer: this is based on submitted cache listings and all member sign-ups; it does not reflect active caches or active cachers. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Wow - always interesting and remarkably consistent over time. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Another update. We are at almost 5 million registered users and almost 200 million logs entered! Disclaimer: this is based on submitted cache listings and all member sign-ups; it does not reflect active caches or active cachers. Quote Link to comment
+SeekerOfTheWay Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks, fizzy! Really interesting thread. Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 This came up in another thread today. I don't see any slowing down. Quote Link to comment
+Lieblweb Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) I haven't read all the threads... (graphs make my head hurt) and I apologize if this has been asked already.... What are the TOP 10 areas most saturated with caches? And whether or not it can be narrowed down to a state/county level? Or whether its east coast vs west coast, countries.... Don't worry about figuring this out unless you 'enjoy' doing it. Wasn't meant to be more work for ya...was just curious. Awesome work you've done already!! Did I mention, graphs make my head hurt? (LOL) Edited December 8, 2011 by Lieblweb Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Lieblweb, the user sTeamTraen has been tracking a variety of cache stats for Geocaching.com for some time. Not exactly what you're looking for, but perhaps of interest. There are some density numbers in this. Last update was june 2011. A year of cache development Slice and dice the numbers any way you want http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=195084 Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Time for a long-overdue update. My only real comment is that the growth in users appears to have settled into a nice exponential; everything else is still subexponential. Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 About a graph indicating the average length of log over time? LOL. Time for a long-overdue update. My only real comment is that the growth in users appears to have settled into a nice exponential; everything else is still subexponential. Quote Link to comment
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