gumpy Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? There is a cache in Manitoba rated a 5x5 and it sounds like it is very hard. It is called Brains, Brawn and Beauty Cache Edited September 5, 2004 by gumpy Quote Link to comment
+planetrobert Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I dont think people like them... I personally do, but I think we are in the minority. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I don't mind them - if it is really physical (5) I might not do it - I won't do water (needs boat) caches -I can't do a rapel down the side of a cliff - or somethinkg like that. this is a physical thing with me - I'm a (blue) card carrying member of the officially handicapped. but I have spent hours looking for some difficult multi caches. And I am working on a couple difficult ones myself. Quote Link to comment
+cache_us_if_you_can Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? Maybe Quote Link to comment
Tahosa and Sons Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 What is hard to some is fun to others. My traditionals are full of some good ones. And my virtuals can be a mental challenge that are accesable to those that can not hike the hills. Quote Link to comment
BassoonPilot Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 (edited) I used to, when people used to place them. Now they don't, so I can't. What passes for a "hard cache" these days is usually some puzzle or mental challenge and then a short walk over flat terrain to an easy find. I've spent more time and effort searching the family room for my keys. Edited September 5, 2004 by BassoonPilot Quote Link to comment
+Imajika Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 I'll try any 5/1 you want to throw my way. Now if it were a 1/5, I might have an issue. I am in decent shape but I can't climb rock faces or SCUBA to get to a cache. It would just depend on everything involved and if I thought I could do it. The last 5/1 we did was The Agency: The Initiation. Our total time working on this cache was about 48 hours over two weeks. We got it, we were FTF and we had a great time! It took my poor brain a while to heal from that mental workout! Quote Link to comment
+faithbookqueen Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 If I had to hike a decent hike I would definately go far it. I grew up with a dad who loved the outdoors so we were the family that would take the LONG way to the viewpoint at the TOP of the waterfall, etc. That sort of thing. 5+ miles was not anything new for us, even in grade school. We learned the cleanest of dad's old Marine Corp marching songs and off we'd go, trail mix and water bottles in tow. If it was something I'd have to have special eq to get to I might think twice. Although come to think of it, my brother has rapelling gear I might be able to bum from him. Hmmm.....But generally speaking....the GPS system dh and I just bought off ebay was investment enough! So I guess the answer is Yes and No. I'm very glad that the hard cache's exist though because I personally enjoy a challenging "quest" to set myself against. And hiking through the woods with my husband on an all day adventure is definately a treat to me! :-) But monetary investment for special equipment or whatever would be a little too much for me at this point in time. Angela <>< Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Give me 4-5 star terrain I would love to go after it. If its a 4-5 star difficulty I'm not interested. Quote Link to comment
kayaker22589 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I'm mmore of a 1/5 kind of guy. I dont like using my brain Quote Link to comment
+Searching_ut Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) I very much prefer the difficult terrain ones. They're the caches I generally go after if I'm planning a Geocaching day. The easier ones can be fun, and they have a place. For me, the easy terrain ones are generally what I go after to break up a drive, for a quick evening fix, or on the way to some other place. I even went after a 4.5 terrain virtual cache once, but admittedly I was heading there anyway. Logging the cache just added a little pizzaz to the adventure. If you're talking about mentally tough, hmmmm, I still have this rubics cube I've never sorted out Edited September 6, 2004 by Searching_ut Quote Link to comment
+PeachyPA Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 We tried to do a 3.5/5 cache in Rochester, NY; we tried and failed to find part one. As it turns out, it was just inaccessible to us. We may try this cache again next summer. There is another 3.5/5 river cache 35 miles north of us which we intend to try soon. I don't think I am capable of doing 4 or 5 star terrain land caches, but we do have a canoe and will use it when necessary to find caches. Quote Link to comment
King Pellinore Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 i like hiding them. if only there was some difficult terrain around here... *sigh* Quote Link to comment
+wornout Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? There is a cache in Manitoba rated a 5x5 and it sounds like it is very hard. It is calledBrains, Brawn and Beauty Cache I hate em. There is a series of caches, actually a 7-part Multi in Northern California called Peace Point One, Two .... and so on. I had trouble, and a DNF, with the first one which was planted in Holly , what fun is that? Anyhow, they were placed in service just over a year ago, three cachers have done all seven. Makes me think I am not alone. I just filter them out of my GPX download when I pass the data through GSAK. Quote Link to comment
+Jared_and_Tanis Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I love puzzles, riddles, thinkers, and even some that require research. I think most people's problems with high-difficulty caches is that you have to plan to waste/spend all day working on them (depending on if you find it or not). My friend Toby and I are working on one that should be a pretty tough one with easy terrain. ~Jared Quote Link to comment
+maleki Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Wish there where more around here( the Chicago area). 2/4's would be a nice number. We just don't have a whole lot of 'terrain'. So tired of drive up micros and city parks. Would rather spend a half or full day on one or two somewhat challenging caches than a 25 cache drive-up day. Saves gas and is far more enjoyable. Theres a few around here and we've tried to focus on some of them recently. Totals caches found slowed down a lot but its far more enjoyable. Interesting to see how few logs a cache has when its description mentions it might be a couple mile round trip or more. Especially when there's a drive up in the parking area thats been found dozens of times. Just me im sure. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Give me 4-5 star terrain I would love to go after it. If its a 4-5 star difficulty I'm not interestedRight on brother! Its the physical challenges that got me hooked on the game. I'm forced to write non-functional code all day at work and my tiny brain just doesn't want to solve puzzle caches in its spare time.Does a puzzle cache make you look like this? 94 degrees F, 45% humidity, 4 mile exposed (no shade) hike. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment
+deadbattery2003 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I definately wish there were more difficult caches near me, it isnt much fun to log in only to find 1/1 - 1/2 difficulty in my area and the tough ones are farther than I have time to go on a weekend without using vacation time. Its ok to walk down a groomed path/trail right up to the cache when I have kids with me ,but it gets depressing when that seems to be all that is near by anymore (with more being added all the time). Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Climbre, caver, diver bring it on. So far I have a 4.5/5 and a 4/5 complterd. There is a 5/5 but is just a 5.9 or 5.10 rock climb so not to interesting. The interesting part comes in the challenge. The 4.5/5 wasn't hard to find just a75 foot rappel and the 4/5 was easy just a short scube dive, 15 feet. But the DIfficulity was up because of the speical equipment. There should maybe a separate catagory or something, that escapes me now of what, but it should be like puzzlement difficulty or how hard did the hider hide the thing. Not sure but just some ramblings. cheers Quote Link to comment
+Team Teuton Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? There is a cache in Manitoba rated a 5x5 and it sounds like it is very hard. It is calledBrains, Brawn and Beauty Cache Terpsichorean Men fits the bill. Quote Link to comment
+Team Vibe Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I've been looking to see if there are any 5/5 in our area, but the highest I can find is a 4/5. It's nice to see that us Tennesseans are taking advantage of all our hills. The one that is rated 4/5 is probably on an island somewhere in the middle of the Tennessee River. Husband and I do not canoe as it invariably turns into an argument--but I'm up for a good hike or a good mental challenge anyday. Quote Link to comment
+C&C+COMPANY Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I LIKE A GOOD HIKE MUCH MORE THEN A MENTAL CHALLENGE ANYDAY, IN NOVA SCOTIA THE CAPE BREATION HIGHLANDS ARE THE ONLY SPOTS FOR 5/5'S. Quote Link to comment
sir2u Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) I just placed this 5/5. I think it will be a problem for anyone to find, but if you happen to live elsewhere and want to send me the coordinates if you figure them out, I would be awfully impressed. The Dreaded Pirate Geisel the Fierce Edited September 7, 2004 by sir2u Quote Link to comment
+Robespierre Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 The toughest I've found aroiund here was a 3/4. I don't like heights, so it truly was a 4. Please, give me more! Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 For the past few weeks Team CHB has been making a special effort to target some more difficult caches . Sometimes it IS all about the numbers. This summer the numbers we like are 5*'s. Quote Link to comment
Jeremy Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I prefer high terrain, low difficulty caches nowadays. Quote Link to comment
+MarcB Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I like a tough cache for a sense of achivement now and again, these of course require a lot more time and planning, something which will put off "passers by". MarcB Quote Link to comment
+The Roving Ravenstones Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I just placed this 5/5. I think it will be a problem for anyone to find, but if you happen to live elsewhere and want to send me the coordinates if you figure them out, I would be awfully impressed.The Dreaded Pirate Geisel the Fierce sir2u I took your challenge emial is on the way, let me know if I did good! Quote Link to comment
Mvillian Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 this one has me stumped got a clue on the code but its still hard to decode... http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...10-f840ff0442af Quote Link to comment
+Anonymous' Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I don't like extremely difficult caches, especially puzzle caches. Quote Link to comment
+LukeH Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 My preference is to look for the difficult-terrain caches. However a puzzle is nice too, and better yet if it results in a difficult hike! As for actual hiding difficulty, I don't care too much about that except when the hiding technique is exceptionally ingenious. Quote Link to comment
+shunra Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 My caching destinattions are always challenges of some sort; usually in terms of terrain. If I happen tobe in an area, either because it's near a challenging cache or for any other reason, I'll also look for other caches, if I have time. Quote Link to comment
+The Commissar! Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I think I like them...I don't have much difficult terrain down here in South Carolina. I cache with children much of the time I'm not at or on the way to/from work caching, so they require a kitchen pass which raises the difficulty to a six considering the size of my honey-do list I am reasonably close to the now famous Tube Torcher and Sissy's Snarky Walk. Trips to them are in the planning stages. Behind hanging sheetrock in the bonus room I think!? Quote Link to comment
+junglehair Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Oh man, I would love to attempt that cache. Too bad it's so far from Winnipeg, otherwise I might have tried when I go home at Christmas. I'm glad to see there are more caches popping up in that area though. A difficult cache is fun to do every once in a while and defintely leaves you with a feeling of accomplishment. I've done a 4.5/4.5 cache that took several visits to complete the whole thing. I've also done a cache that took 6 hours and covered over 9 miles (well, the cache was only supposed to be 6 miles, but I picked up some other caches along the way). Quote Link to comment
+VAKationers Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 While on vacation we did this one: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...56-f5b0614d7404 HIGHLY ENTERTAINING. Rated 5 stars for enjoyment!! Quote Link to comment
+º Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Here we go: Mission Delta - well you need a boat ... at night Mission Echo - tough nightcache, nobody got through it at once and this one will be really nasty: BlackOps Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? We've come to prefer the harder caches. It's come to the point that we treat 1/1s the same as most virts; if it's right there, we'll do it. Otherwise, we skip it. So, I guess you could say we're in it for the numbers, too! 3/4.5, 5/5, etc. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Give me 4-5 star terrain I would love to go after it. If its a 4-5 star difficulty I'm not interestedRight on brother! Its the physical challenges that got me hooked on the game. I'm forced to write non-functional code all day at work and my tiny brain just doesn't want to solve puzzle caches in its spare time.Does a puzzle cache make you look like this? 94 degrees F, 45% humidity, 4 mile exposed (no shade) hike. Nuff said. Here's a challenge for you Will. Some of our best geobuddies have tried and failed on this one. They won't post a DNF because they say they're not done lookin' for it. I posted this cache as a challenge to Houston, Austin, and San Antonio. No one from S.A. has been up to it. Maybe you could make a showing for DFW....? Quote Link to comment
LostDogCanada Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I must admit, I'm sorta getting into difficult terrain as well... I've always like canoe trips, so this past labour day weekend, I took some friends on a three day canoe trip on a river here in Ontario, including two caches which were WAY out there. We were the FTF for one (that was placed two years ago!) and the second to find on another. They weren't particularly difficult finds, they were just hard to get to. Really had an awesome time. LostDog Quote Link to comment
+=BB= Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I would personally LOVE to see a 5/5 in my area! I think I may be the one to do just such a cache I enjoy tackling 5* diff. caches in my area (esp. Binthair's) because they provide a personal challenge. When I am with others, I am always being dragged into the <2.5 game. Quote Link to comment
+Sal&Z Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I like being Outdoors, hiking & such, so really enjoy the physical challenges more than the 1/1 caches that are placed around too much now. Don't get me wrong, I learned on many 1/1's but have now developed a preference for more difficult terrain challenges. Here's One I had much satisfaction completing. Sonora Cache You can only get to do this one at certain periods of time due to snow. After almost a year of no activity I finally got up there & it was great! Now just to show you the luring power of a YJTB someone went all the way up there just to go get it only after 2 days when I last completed it! Nice cache however & getting to the cache it self was very scary & tricky But a great cache none the less. I'm looking for more of these types of caches to do in the near future. Sal of JeepySr Quote Link to comment
+onehand Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 at my age any cache is hard!! Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 And at my age its all about being pushed to your limits. Quote Link to comment
+Brian - Team A.I. Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 I love 'em. Quote Link to comment
+CompuCash Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I love 'em. and I'm learning to create them (I hope!) Quote Link to comment
+JShorr Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would love to have some high difficulty (high terrain difficulty, don't care about difficulty of finding quite as much) in the NE Ohio area to visit. Quote Link to comment
+Night Stalker Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I hate 5 difficulty ratings they hurt my brain. I don't mind the more difficult terrain as long as I don't need special equipment. I guess thats why I cache a lot with RK he is the brains of the outfit and figures out where they are then sends me up the tree or rock climbing while he waits below and gives me sh*t about what will happen to me if I fall. Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I like difficult terrain caches. Difficult hides I like under certain circumstances. Mostly I prefer a nice hike with a not too hard to find cache. I tend to have to travel for those. There are not that many areas for longer hikes in eastern Nebraska. Quote Link to comment
+rjb43nh Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I have a New Hampshire cache , GCJVEZ, Owl's Head, that is a 5/5 that you might find interesting. It is an 18 mile strenuous hike with almost 3000 feet of elevation gain, most of the gain on an unstable rock slide. To find out what cachers think of this, check the logs. Quote Link to comment
+ShadowAce Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 I was wondering if there really are people who like to do difficult caches? There is a cache in Manitoba rated a 5x5 and it sounds like it is very hard. It is calledBrains, Brawn and Beauty Cache I think I have a right to speak up here... I have done many a difficult cache. Some we make, some we spend over 7 hours climbing and never reach. I am in a unique position to answer this question as I was just flown off a mountain under a rescue helicopter yesterday morning. Nope, not lost.. I fell off a cliff and landed on rocks alittle over 40 feet below where I slipped.. Will this keep me off the hard caches? heck no.. I found the cache before the accident so I do get to claim FTF and all that... I really enjoy the challenges, just takes me awhile to get around to them sometimes.. For now, I am going back to the horizontal position.. be safe out there. Quote Link to comment
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