+4leafclover Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I have been given permission to take this benchmark: JZ0826. Quote Link to comment
+4leafclover Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 turns out it was a pipe cap, not a disk. I am working on the whole story to submit to today's cacher. If you feel like registering on a Local board, here is a thread about the process: http://www.okic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=826 Quote Link to comment
ArtMan Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Interesting. Can you give dimensions, and what material is it made of? (In the photo it looks plastic.) Who gave you permission to take it, and how did you extract it from its concrete encasement? -ArtMan- Quote Link to comment
+4leafclover Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 (edited) Interesting. Can you give dimensions, and what material is it made of? (In the photo it looks plastic.) Who gave you permission to take it, and how did you extract it from its concrete encasement? -ArtMan- I contacted the city engineers office, and received written permission. A friend had to jack hammer it out, and cut it off the pipe fitting. Here at work, they removed the pipe ring, and sand blasted it. It is about 4 inches in diameter, and inch in depth, made of (I am assuming ) solid brass, weighing probably a pound and a half. Edited January 12, 2005 by 4leafclover Quote Link to comment
ArtMan Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Excellent, and congratulations! I'm an office worker, so we don't have sandblasters around here, and I certainly don't know anyone with a spare jackhammer in their garage, so that part of your tale is just as amazing to me. Quote Link to comment
holograph Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 (edited) I noticed the pictures when they appeared in the gallery, and wondered what was planned for that monument. Congratulations! Edited January 12, 2005 by holograph Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 If you watch projects and a mark is going to be destroyed, there is a good chance that if you are in the right place at the right time and ask you can take the benchmark home. Surveyors tend to accumulate the things. Blaze marks where the bark has grown over it and filled in the writing are cool. Surveyors will sometimes have to take the bark to find the blaze. The bark ends up with a reverse image of the markings. Sort of cool. Quote Link to comment
+4leafclover Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 I noticed the pictures when they appeared in the gallery, and wondered what was planned for that monument. Congratulations! now you know. It's the simple things that make some of us happy..... Quote Link to comment
+SherwoodForest Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 pretty fortunate that clover was taking me around to see and find several benchmarks in the Cincinnati area. And when we did the benchmark in question, we found the mark (complete in its concrete tomb) laying on the side of the road, which spurred her to call the City Engineers and get permission to take the benchmark. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 If you watch projects and a mark is going to be destroyed, there is a good chance that if you are in the right place at the right time and ask you can take the benchmark home. Surveyors tend to accumulate the things. Blaze marks where the bark has grown over it and filled in the writing are cool. Surveyors will sometimes have to take the bark to find the blaze. The bark ends up with a reverse image of the markings. Sort of cool. It say's the only time you are suppose to remove the scar from the tree is for verifacation if no other suitable references can be found. There are still a bunch of the CORNER TREES here and the scar remains, some over 100 years old. Please do not disturb these trees. They have the TOWNSHIP,SECTION.,AND RANGE CARVED IN THEM. You may need it someday for proof and evidence. There were generally alway's 2 other trees marked within 1/2 chain. As for the Benchmarks sounds cool!! Quote Link to comment
+BilboB Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I am very jealous. I have been trying to get one for awhile now - legally of course. Quote Link to comment
+BilboB Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Blaze marks where the bark has grown over it and filled in the writing are cool. Surveyors will sometimes have to take the bark to find the blaze. The bark ends up with a reverse image of the markings. Sort of cool. Can someone upload a link with both a description and photos of a survey tree? I am curious to see what one looks like. Quote Link to comment
+Zhanna Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I am also the proud owner of a benchmark disk ... Rich and I—with permission, of course—removed this Destroyed mark last June. See LY1150 and our previous forum thread, The Demise of a Benchmark, for details. The disk is sitting on my computer desk now, but he'll get to keep the next one. (We've already obtained permission to remove another Destroyed mark in our area ... now we just need to wait for some decent weather!) ~Zhanna http://surveymarks.planetzhanna.com/ Quote Link to comment
CallawayMT Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Can someone upload a link with both a description and photos of a survey tree? I am curious to see what one looks like. BilboB, Here is an image from BOUNDARY MP 256.245 M ID MT PID:RY0852 This Lodgepole Pine was scribed in 1904. You can see the post at this location:Boundary MP 256.245 MT-ID These old PLSS corners and bearing trees are great to find. CallawayMT Quote Link to comment
+Yerocrg Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Interesting. Can you give dimensions, and what material is it made of? (In the photo it looks plastic.) Who gave you permission to take it, and how did you extract it from its concrete encasement? -ArtMan- I contacted the city engineers office, and received written permission. A friend had to jack hammer it out, and cut it off the pipe fitting. Here at work, they removed the pipe ring, and sand blasted it. It is about 4 inches in diameter, and inch in depth, made of (I am assuming ) solid brass, weighing probably a pound and a half. Was it marked lost, or destroyed, or was it going to be removed soon anyway? Why did they give you permission? Yerocrg Quote Link to comment
+BilboB Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 (edited) Thanks CallawayMT. I see that someone spraypainted the tree to highlight the marks. That is pretty cool. Do you think they carve out the bark so they can inscribe the coordinates, or do they find a tree that is split like this one? Edited January 18, 2005 by BilboB Quote Link to comment
CallawayMT Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 (edited) Thanks CallawayMT. I see that someone spraypainted the tree to highlight the marks. That is pretty cool. Do you think they carve out the bark so they can inscribe the coordinates, or do they find a tree that is split like this one? BilboB, You actually take a hatchet and cut the cambium off of the tree, so that you get a flat face that is large enough for whatever needs to be scribed. A sharp tool called a tree scribe is then used to cut the markings out of the wood. Here is a photo of me scribing a tree. You will notice that red paint again on this tree, we use red to cover up the exposed wood and also to make the tree more visible when marking corners and boundaries. The cambium grows back over the scribing by slowly coming together in the middle, on healthy vigorous trees in a moisture rich area the cambium will actually close back over the scribing. CallawayMT Edited January 19, 2005 by CallawayMT Quote Link to comment
+BilboB Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Thanks CallawayMT. I really think that is pretty cool. Thanks for the visual, it added a lot. Quote Link to comment
+4leafclover Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Interesting. Can you give dimensions, and what material is it made of? (In the photo it looks plastic.) Who gave you permission to take it, and how did you extract it from its concrete encasement? -ArtMan- I contacted the city engineers office, and received written permission. A friend had to jack hammer it out, and cut it off the pipe fitting. Here at work, they removed the pipe ring, and sand blasted it. It is about 4 inches in diameter, and inch in depth, made of (I am assuming ) solid brass, weighing probably a pound and a half. Was it marked lost, or destroyed, or was it going to be removed soon anyway? Why did they give you permission? Yerocrg Yero, It was by pure happenstance that SherwooedForest and I happened upon it after the construction crew had dislodged it from the ground, mountirng post and all. Photos are on the page. I contacted the city engineers office, and they put me in touch with the cheif surveyor, who confirmed that it had been marked destroyed, and gave me permission to take it, providing I found a way to dismantle it. Well, I did...and the story is trhe subject fo an essay I am currently piecing together to submit to today's cacher. I am glad to see that you were interested enough to follow the story in OKIC. Quote Link to comment
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