+Shop99er Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 With the new background attribute in the listing page, do we put the HTML code there, with the url of the image? Or does the HTML go in the short description, and the url into the new attribute box? Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Just put the url in the little box provided, you don't need to use html. Link to comment
+Shop99er Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 If I don't use html, how does the page know if I want the image fixed or not? Link to comment
Toron Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 What do you mean by "fixed"? FWIW, I switched mine from earlier today from html in the description to a straightforward URL in the new designated spot. No problems (though I would still like to see the borders be adjusted--not trying to raise that horse in this topic, just couldn't help myself) . Link to comment
Jeremy Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 There is an option in CSS to fix the background image so it doesn't move when you scroll up and down the page. Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I tried out the new feature when I posted this event today Now about the margins... Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I tried out the new feature when I posted this event today Now about the margins... So, how do I fix the background? Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I tried out the new feature when I posted this event today Now about the margins... So, how do I fix the background? HTML Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I tried out the new feature when I posted this event today Now about the margins... So, how do I fix the background? HTML You're such a big help, Saxy. Ok, now that we have to put the url for the background into the little box provided, how can we use html? Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 (edited) I tried out the new feature when I posted this event today Now about the margins... So, how do I fix the background? HTML You're such a big help, Saxy. Ok, now that we have to put the url for the background into the little box provided, how can we use html? Ok fine, add bgproperties="fixed" inside your brackets <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" background="background.gif" bgproperties="fixed"> Edited February 24, 2005 by Team GPSaxophone Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Ok, this is where I am confused. That is exactly the html that I had in the text of my cache pages before. But now Jeremy says that we have to put the background in the little box that he has provided. I cannot put html in that box, because it will say, "you do not have a valid background image url". If I just put in the url of the background in that box, it is happy. But then it is not fixed. Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Ok, this is where I am confused. That is exactly the html that I had in the text of my cache pages before. But now Jeremy says that we have to put the background in the little box that he has provided. I cannot put html in that box, because it will say, "you do not have a valid background image url". If I just put in the url of the background in that box, it is happy. But then it is not fixed. This is why you shouldn't mess with the background images Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Ok, this is where I am confused. That is exactly the html that I had in the text of my cache pages before. But now Jeremy says that we have to put the background in the little box that he has provided. I cannot put html in that box, because it will say, "you do not have a valid background image url". If I just put in the url of the background in that box, it is happy. But then it is not fixed. This is why you shouldn't mess with the background images Ok. Does this mean that in your example, you weren't using the little box that Jeremy provided? And don't try to disparage my backgrounds. They're what make my pages great. (Or at least they were, back in the days that you could see them.) Link to comment
+Hemlock Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Since you can see so little of the background, does it really matter if it is "fixed" or not? Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 (edited) Since you can see so little of the background, does it really matter if it is "fixed" or not? Yes. I looked at two of my caches, one had a fixed background, and one did not. You can see enough of the background to see that fixed is better. I really am fine with either way, when it comes down to it, I had just thought that Saxy had some brilliant way of fixing it (no pun intended!) that I didn't know about. Edited February 24, 2005 by Ambrosia Link to comment
+jeff35080 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I really, really hope Jeremy adjusts the width of the pages to allow a bit more of the background show on the screen. Link to comment
+Oreo Pony Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 (edited) Also wishin' for larger view of the background. Edited February 24, 2005 by Oreo Pony Link to comment
+The Leprechauns Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Just a reminder that background images that are not moved into the new field will be stripped out at some point in the future. Also adding my standard comment that the new, clean, wider look to the cache pages is fine by me. I'd rather see more data on the screen at once and forego pretty background images. Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Just a reminder that background images that are not moved into the new field will be stripped out at some point in the future. Also adding my standard comment that the new, clean, wider look to the cache pages is fine by me. I'd rather see more data on the screen at once and forego pretty background images. Good. No more "fixed" backgrounds that make you dizzy when scrolling Link to comment
+RJFerret Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I'd rather see more data on the screen at once and forego pretty background images. But do we need the blank grey panel beneath the advertising that does nothing but obscure bkgs? There's no data there and it's not pretty! Enjoy, Randy Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Just a reminder that background images that are not moved into the new field will be stripped out at some point in the future. Also adding my standard comment that the new, clean, wider look to the cache pages is fine by me. I'd rather see more data on the screen at once and forego pretty background images. Good. No more "fixed" backgrounds that make you dizzy when scrolling You're beginning to really get to me. (And not in a good way.) Link to comment
+Monkeybrad Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I'd rather see more data on the screen at once and forego pretty background images. But do we need the blank grey panel beneath the advertising that does nothing but obscure bkgs? There's no data there and it's not pretty! Enjoy, Randy I have to agree there is a lot of dead space around the edges that is not showing data but is covering the background. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Since one could assume that when someone provides a background image, they consider it important, perhaps the system could switch to a narrower page layout when a background URL is proivded, and use the wider one when there's no background. That would also encourage people to edit their cache page to use the background URL entry. Link to comment
+jeff35080 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Thats a good idea PS. I typically use a background 'color' and really enjoy some cache pages that include a splash of color or an image. It allows the cache hider to somewhat express themself. Anyways, if there's anyway to allow a bit more of a background color or image it definitely has my vote! Link to comment
+southdeltan Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 That would also encourage people to edit their cache page to use the background URL entry. Do you mean encourage them to do it properly, or encourage more people to use background images? I personally don't like them and hope Jeremy will consider an user option that automatically sets the background to the default green. I'm sure somebody will point out that browsers can do this - by cutting off ALL background images I think - I just want the backgrounds on GC.com to be normal - not on every website I visit. southdeltan Link to comment
+Teach2Learn Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 That would also encourage people to edit their cache page to use the background URL entry. Do you mean encourage them to do it properly, or encourage more people to use background images? I personally don't like them and hope Jeremy will consider an user option that automatically sets the background to the default green. I am still hoping for a better balance where the backgrounds can again be viewed. Taking away some of the space was fine, but the current amount seems to be an extreme minimum. The proposed user option is fine because I realize some don't like backgrounds, but I would really miss seeing many of the cache pages that use backgrounds creatively and appropriately. The current gray bar isn't attractive, just wasted space, and would allow for the return of some of the background. The radical change has been disappointing for me. I still love caching, but some of the at-home fun is gone, even if that's not the primary setting for caching. Link to comment
+Poindexter Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Well, there is another option to get a background on your cache page as I have done on mine. Link to comment
+Markwell Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Just so that everyone knows: Jeremy has said that the <body background=... tag will soon be disallowed with tidy HTML in place. Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Well, there is another option to get a background on your cache page as I have done on mine. Great, now I need to disable images to view cache pages Link to comment
+Poindexter Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Great, now I need to disable images to view cache pages Including your own I guess Link to comment
+caderoux Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I did some experiments on a cache page I'm gradually building for a mystery cache, and you can use an absolutely sized <div> with background-color or background-image - WITHIN your page. This would also mean that you can also do nested divs to get an effect of a box within a box, where the inner box has a simple background-color, while the outer box has a background-image. And you would be able to control the perceived ratio of text to image that way. It does also look like there is no scripting allowed - so you can't navigate the DOM and resize an element on the page to fit your layout needs. Having said that, there are already/still caches where the layout is being altered by unclosed HTML tags - http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...c8-17cc84893cdf Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Well, there is another option to get a background on your cache page as I have done on mine. Could you make the font a little smaller? I can still actually make out a few of the letters. Link to comment
+Poindexter Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Could you make the font a little smaller? I can still actually make out a few of the letters. Must be your settings. I have not specified any font size in my html. Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Since one could assume that when someone provides a background image, they consider it important, perhaps the system could switch to a narrower page layout when a background URL is proivded, and use the wider one when there's no background. That would also encourage people to edit their cache page to use the background URL entry. Amen. Link to comment
+Markwell Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Could you make the font a little smaller? I can still actually make out a few of the letters. Must be your settings. I have not specified any font size in my html. The use of "comic sans ms" as a font face might be the problem. Seems to me that's not a standard web font, and if the user doesn't have comic sans ms on their computer, their browser will replace it with another available font. Prime's replacement font must be a tiny one. Is there a list of standard acceptable fonts? Link to comment
+Poindexter Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 The use of "comic sans ms" as a font face might be the problem. Seems to me that's not a standard web font, and if the user doesn't have comic sans ms on their computer, their browser will replace it with another available font. Prime's replacement font must be a tiny one. Is there a list of standard acceptable fonts? Yes, I thought that might be the problem as well, but if his computer doesn't have that font, then it should use it's default font. Perhaps he needs to change his default font to something he can read. I thought comic sans ms was pretty common as I have it on four different laptops at home and on my tower at work. I also use it in my e-mail and have never heard a complaint, but then not everyone uses html in their e-mail apps. I don't know of a list of acceptable fonts. Anyway, I just had a thought come to me out of the blue that you could use backgrounds in a table so I tried it out on the cache page. I'll probably switch back to the "normal" format. Link to comment
+BooBooBee Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Wow! Alrighty...I've altered every one of my 30 cache pages to the new format. I understood GC.com was going to disable (ferret out) all the background HTML in favor if their new background option, so here are the steps I took: -I located the image source for every background I was using. -downloaded images not originally from my own computer TO my computer - uploaded the images to the corresponding cache page at GC.com - determined location (address) of the image on the GC.com server - edited the cache description to include a direct link to the image as saved on GC.com server. Very cumbersome to change all the old pages over to the new format this way. But, perhaps I was mistake and just made a bunch of busy work for myself. At any rate, the pages load faster now because the images are on teh GC.com server, not some outside server over which none of us has any control. AND when posting new caches, the new method may be easier than the old (though a few more steps). Just thought I'd share. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Wow! Alrighty...I've altered every one of my 30 cache pages to the new format. I understood GC.com was going to disable (ferret out) all the background HTML in favor if their new background option, so here are the steps I took:-I located the image source for every background I was using. -downloaded images not originally from my own computer TO my computer - uploaded the images to the corresponding cache page at GC.com - determined location (address) of the image on the GC.com server - edited the cache description to include a direct link to the image as saved on GC.com server. Very cumbersome to change all the old pages over to the new format this way. But, perhaps I was mistake and just made a bunch of busy work for myself. At any rate, the pages load faster now because the images are on teh GC.com server, not some outside server over which none of us has any control. AND when posting new caches, the new method may be easier than the old (though a few more steps). Just thought I'd share. All you really needed to do was move the image URL from the body tag to the background entry box. Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 The use of "comic sans ms" as a font face might be the problem. Seems to me that's not a standard web font, and if the user doesn't have comic sans ms on their computer, their browser will replace it with another available font. Prime's replacement font must be a tiny one. Is there a list of standard acceptable fonts? Yes, I thought that might be the problem as well, but if his computer doesn't have that font, then it should use it's default font. Perhaps he needs to change his default font to something he can read. I thought comic sans ms was pretty common as I have it on four different laptops at home and on my tower at work. I also use it in my e-mail and have never heard a complaint, but then not everyone uses html in their e-mail apps. I don't know of a list of acceptable fonts. Anyway, I just had a thought come to me out of the blue that you could use backgrounds in a table so I tried it out on the cache page. I'll probably switch back to the "normal" format. No, actually it has to do with the ways that different browsers can interpret the CSS code controlling the page formatting. Link to comment
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