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Is it ok to log caches that aren't on this site on cache pages that are on this site. Example..........Let's say Bob hides a cache and only tells a few people. Is it ok if those people log a find on another one of his caches for this private cache? ;)

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I guess in the long run it doesn't matter if you just interested in NUMBERS. What diffeanace does it make. If you find a cache for fun does it matter. Many events have cache(s) as part of the event does it matter if you you find 5 caches at an event do you get 5 smilies or do you just have a good time????? I don't think it is right but then if it is just numbers then go for it.

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I guess if the cache owner lets you log on their page then it is OK, but the idea of it seems icky to me. If the cache is not listed on this site, it must be for a reason. Either the site would not list it or the owner did not want to list it here. So why get credit on this site for finding something it has not listed?

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I have been pondering this for the longest time, and while having gone to 2 private, "invited guests only" events I have yet to log the combined 66 caches that were there. While others.....................well you know the rest. ;)

 

I guess I see what goes on no different than logging a Terracache or Navicache here on this site.

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That makes no sense at all. Why on earth would you want to log a find on a cache you didn't find? The only possible problem I could see would be if the real cache got muggled, then got logged by someone who found it, thus misinforming the next person who wanted to look for the cache that was no longer there.

 

But if the cache owner doesn't care that his cache log becomes bastardized and meaningless, why should I?

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;):D:D

What is this really about?

If it is private the cache isn't open to the community has no place on this site. If you want to have a private competition log the finds privatly. I mean even if it is about the numbers, how is hiding a cache for an exclusive group fair competition? If it's just for fun who cares if you get the smilie?

 

MOC discuss......... ;):D:D

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Since I don't pay attention to your stats, whether you do or not makes no difference to me. I, personally, would never do it, but if you want to, go right ahead.

 

Edit: Although I will say this: There's a difference between Geocaching (capital G) and geocaching (lowercase g). Geocaching.com, Terracaching, Navicache, etc. are all sites for listing geocaches (lowercase g). You don't even have to participate on one of those sites to partake in geocaching just like you don't have to belong to an organized team to play a game of basketball. You are perfectly welcome to hide a cache for your friends to find for fun and not have it listed anywhere. Geocaching.com (capital g) is a listing service for geocaches (lowercase g). Just like the NBA has no obligation to recognize your stats from your pickup basketball game, GC.com does not have to provide you with a way to keep track of caches you find that are not listed here.

 

Again, if you choose to log those caches here, I'm not going to call you on it, but I still don't think it's right.

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How would you log a 'found' cache here if it isn't listed? ;) Some unethical peeps might just build their numbers by loggin' imaginary caches. I'm not saying you can't have your own cache crew parte'. But to claim here??? I dunno. Just doesn't sound right to me.

 

Carry on!!!

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Is it ok to log caches that aren't on this site on cache pages that are on this site. Example..........Let's say Bob hides a cache and only tells a few people. Is it ok if those people log a find on another one of his caches for this private cache? ;)

Why would anyone want to?

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Jeremy

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I frown heavily on any form of abuse of the Geocaching.com web site. Groundspeak has the right to take action against such abuse, such as locking cache listings and banning users if it comes to that.

 

Does that answer your question? Let me know if I need to be more direct.

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Aw geez, just when I was about to submit my " Go ahead you number grubbing 'ho; log your othersite.com, unapproved virt, locationless or RR/school/military encroachment caches here" multistage mystery cache listing for approval. Darn, you guys just suck the fun right out of everything.

I hope it makes you happy.

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1. Log the cache the old fashioned way: by signing the log book. If it's not listed at GC.com, then don't try to log a find here.

 

2. List it at terracaching.com instead. The only reason I can think that anyone would want to start a cache without getting it listed at GC.com is because they couldn't get it listed here, for whatever reason. I did this when I and another Geocacher hid a cache within a few hundred feet of each other on the same weekend. They submitted the listing request before I did. So mine got denied. Rather than go remove it, I just listed it at Terracaching.com.

 

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Prime Suspect

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Besides the ethical consideration, consider what these logs do. They give a possibly inaccurate indication of the status of the cache. What if the real cache is missing, but people keep posting these faux find logs? If the logs aren't detailed, could even the cache owner know which logs belong to the "real" cache, and which don't?

 

I'd hate to spend a lot of time looking for a missing cache that appeared to still be in place (due to all the bogus found logs) that had long ago gone missing.

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Aw geez, just when I was about to submit my " Go ahead you number grubbing 'ho; log your othersite.com, unapproved virt, locationless or RR/school/military encroachment caches here" multistage mystery cache listing for approval. Darn, you guys just suck the fun right out of everything.

I hope it makes you happy.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

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Keeping your stats correct is a BS answer. Your stats here on GC.com reflect the number of caches listed on GC.com you've found. If cache A, B and C are not listed on GC.com, then logging cache D that is listed here 4 times is not really keeping your stats correct.

I've found plenty of temp caches, private caches, and bonus caches in my day. Since they aren't approvable GC.com caches, why would I pervert my GC stats by adding them to my GC find count? That just reeks of number padding, cirvumventing the listing guidelines here, and abusing this site's resources for a non-GC.com activity.

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Team Min-Pin

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If someone is so hard up to "keep their stats correct" then they can simply place a link to their own personal website (or yahoo profile page) on their profile page. On their own page they can simply add their GC finds to their finds from any other geo caching site/organization with which they choose to participate.

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I asked this question to get the consensus of fellow geocachers, not to justify the ability to do it if I pleased to.

Do you have a general consensus yet?? (seems like you should)

Yes, Topic Closed. I am gonna make this point though. The rudeness that others complain about on these forums was just proven again by you with the little statement in the parenthesis. You couldn't let the topic just fall off the page. There seems to be a way here that if a statement is made they get made to feel they have to defend themselves like I felt here over being made to feel like I was thrying to justify logging these finds. Then when you try to clear it up, here comes another little jab at ya. ;)

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