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2) Autozoom does not work on Topo 2008 or the base maps when selecting a cache or waypoint. On the old eMap, when you selected a waypoint it would zoom out to display your current location and the waypoint, and as you got closer it would zoom in, keeping both points on the screen. I assume the autozoom feature on the CO models should work the same way?

 

This one is a bug. I tried it this morning and had the same results. With off-road navigation I can't seem to get autozoom to do anything. BTW, I noticed in geocaching mode autozoom works nicely -- its just the standard waypoint/POI gotos that don't seem to work. I would give Garmin a call on this issue. I've added it to the issues list.

 

GO$Rs

 

Autozoom sorta works if you are in geocache mode and leave the cache header on the display. If you switch to the full map it doesn't work. Seems to me it should work either way.

 

As for the Automotive mode and the zoom scale, what you say makes sense with the 3d view. This is the first GPS I've really messed with that had the 3d, so I didn't know what to expect. It would still make sense to know how far you are zoomed in so if you are navigating without a preset route you can tell when a turn is coming up.

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Autozoom sorta works if you are in geocache mode and leave the cache header on the display. If you switch to the full map it doesn't work. Seems to me it should work either way.

I disagree. When I'm in full map mode, I want to be in control. I love the autozoom on the geocaching combo page, but I don't want it in the full map mode. That would annoy the heck out of me.

 

--Marky

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I have tried to keep up with this thread but at ten pages I have missed some things. I find that I can not delete a cache from the Colorado. I would like to be able to delete the cache from the unit entirely. Am I missing something or is this something that I can do.

If your cache is loaded as an individual GPX file (using the send to Garmin feature on a cache page) then you just need to delete that particular GPX file from the \Garmin\GPX directory when connected to your computer.

 

If your cache is loaded as a GPX file that contains several (even hundreds) of caches, it's not so simple. You will either need to download a new pocket query from the site and copy it to your GPSr, or delete the particular cache(s) in GSAK (or some other waypoint management software) and send the new GPX file to your GPSr.

 

It really isn't as complicated as it sounds though. I download my PQs from the site and load them in GSAK then export one GPX file to my Colorado. When I'm done caching for the day, I'll delete the caches I found from GSAK and export a new GPX file, overwriting the original on the Colorado.

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If you mark the cache as found, its removed from the cache list and added to the found cache list. However, it apparently still shows up as an open treasure chest on the map screen.

 

If you download the caches one at a time using the 'Send to GPS' feature, you can delete the related GPX file with your PC and it goes away. Not the best solution, but it works.

 

Many folks are using pocket queries, so Garmin would have to devise a way to delete one entry from the GPX file containing multiple caches. What works for me is uploading the field notes, logging the caches, then generating and uploading a new pocket query.

 

I agree that you should be able to delete the cache or have it go away once you upload your field notes and log the cache. I will be curious to see if they address this issue in any future firmware updates.

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I have a change for this in the FAQs

 

M5.) How do transparent maps look on the 400t?

 

Like other maps you can see the DEM relief shading. However, since the maps are transparent you can also see the vector data (roads, contour lines, etc) from Topo 2008 as well. This causes certain maps, particularly custom transparent topographic maps, to look very "busy" because you can see contour lines from both maps.

 

Transparent trail maps will work over the built in TOPO maps. The only issue is many times the roads are not accurately located on the built in topos.

 

What works well is having the TOPO USA active, City Navigator active, and all your transparent maps active. City Navigator covers up everything in Topo USA. But the DEM relief shading shows through. So you get City Navigator showing and all your transparent maps AND you get shading. So it works just like in the 60CSX except you also get shading.

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On the Where to, you cannot change the reference point anymore

 

No option to turn off and on compass on compass page

 

It now says, "1/25/08: Manatee87: There is no Show Guidance option when routing City Nav similar to the 60 series. (2.4) " Guidance always shows, the issue is you cannot hide guidance text when auto routing

 

When panning, cannot change map settings

 

When you use where to go and look at the map at the point, you cannot pan the map

 

Elevation page does not have the fields on the bottom for elevation and gain or loss as in 60csx

 

On where to go, an option should be Home where you can put your home coordinates

 

Calendar does not have caches found on the day

 

With the 60CSX, you could follow a track, I have not been able to figure out how to do it with the 400T

 

On the trip computer page, it would be nice to have the option for a second page of data fields

 

It now says, "2/26/08: jotne: With Bluecharts there is no tide graph and no ability to select tide by date as on the 60csx (2.4) " The same is true for the 400T

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Just for fixing Anders post.

 

On the Where to, you cannot change the reference point anymore

It works on my unit.
No option to turn off and on compass on compass page
No, but it is in the settings page. Could be convenient to have both, I agree. I think a continued press on the left soft button isn't occupied?
There is no Show Guidance option when routing City Nav similar to the 60 series. (2.4) " Guidance always shows, the issue is you cannot hide guidance text when auto routing
Neither can you force it to show upcoming street when not routing. This is in line with the limited settings in current automotive units, like the nüvis.
When panning, cannot change map settings
Eh, which settings? Are you looking for support for something like pressing MENU on a 60 CSx?
When you use where to go and look at the map at the point, you cannot pan the map
That would be an improvement, if you could.
Elevation page does not have the fields on the bottom for elevation and gain or loss as in 60csx
You can define the fields, if you like.
On where to go, an option should be Home where you can put your home coordinates
If you go there reasonably frequently (I do), it's always pretty high up in recent finds.
Calendar does not have caches found on the day
Has anyone found any use for the calendar, which the Sun & Moon page can't do better?
With the 60CSX, you could follow a track, I have not been able to figure out how to do it with the 400T
You can follow a track, but only in the same direction as you were going when it was recorded. Edited by jotne
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More of Anders post.

 

 

On the trip computer page, it would be nice to have the option for a second page of data fields

You can change the data fields as you like, and also skip to the predefined automotive trip computer. Do you ask for two separate user defined pages?

With Bluecharts there is no tide graph and no ability to select tide by date as on the 60csx (2.4) " The same is true for the 400T

No comment. I haven't tried any BlueChart. But it seems smarter if you could look at another day to, not just the current day.

 

 

@Anders

It seems to be a limint of numer of quotes :)

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I have tried to keep up with this thread but at ten pages I have missed some things. I find that I can not delete a cache from the Colorado. I would like to be able to delete the cache from the unit entirely. Am I missing something or is this something that I can do.

If your cache is loaded as an individual GPX file (using the send to Garmin feature on a cache page) then you just need to delete that particular GPX file from the \Garmin\GPX directory when connected to your computer.

 

If your cache is loaded as a GPX file that contains several (even hundreds) of caches, it's not so simple. You will either need to download a new pocket query from the site and copy it to your GPSr, or delete the particular cache(s) in GSAK (or some other waypoint management software) and send the new GPX file to your GPSr.

 

It really isn't as complicated as it sounds though. I download my PQs from the site and load them in GSAK then export one GPX file to my Colorado. When I'm done caching for the day, I'll delete the caches I found from GSAK and export a new GPX file, overwriting the original on the Colorado.

 

Oh yeah, I deleted the cache from the Colorado. I am getting smarter by the day. This thing will probably do more things than I ever will learn. Thanks for the help and info.

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Couple of more feature requests

 

On the elevstion page, have an option where you can see a page of data fields

 

Why cannot they make the compass calibrate itself? When you are traveling, the GPS knows which way you are going. You would think it could figure it out from that.

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@g-o-cashers

maybe it is on your list - i could not find it:

 

there are only 2 fields on the map-page

to change from 2 to 4 fields would be nice

and the fields should have transparent background.

 

THANK YOU!

 

(i am missing so much other functions from the gpsmap60csx... - like a status bar :o )

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Can anyone comment on this 3GB vs 4GB memory on the 400t. Are people confused about what they have or did some really ship with 3GB? I thought they were supposed to have 4 GB? Were there some miscues in production and what are the chances of buying one and getting 3GB? Would Garmin honor an exchange if you get a 3 GB?? I'd feel ripped off if I paid the same as someone else and got shorted 1GB :o

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Just for fixing Anders post.

 

On the Where to, you cannot change the reference point anymore

It works on my unit.
No option to turn off and on compass on compass page
No, but it is in the settings page. Could be convenient to have both, I agree. I think a continued press on the left soft button isn't occupied?
There is no Show Guidance option when routing City Nav similar to the 60 series. (2.4) " Guidance always shows, the issue is you cannot hide guidance text when auto routing
Neither can you force it to show upcoming street when not routing. This is in line with the limited settings in current automotive units, like the nüvis.
When panning, cannot change map settings
Eh, which settings? Are you looking for support for something like pressing MENU on a 60 CSx?
When you use where to go and look at the map at the point, you cannot pan the map
That would be an improvement, if you could.
Elevation page does not have the fields on the bottom for elevation and gain or loss as in 60csx
You can define the fields, if you like.
On where to go, an option should be Home where you can put your home coordinates
If you go there reasonably frequently (I do), it's always pretty high up in recent finds.
Calendar does not have caches found on the day
Has anyone found any use for the calendar, which the Sun & Moon page can't do better?
With the 60CSX, you could follow a track, I have not been able to figure out how to do it with the 400T
You can follow a track, but only in the same direction as you were going when it was recorded.

 

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On the Where to, you cannot change the reference point anymore

 

It works on my unit.

 

How? I have a search near option. But in the 60CSX you can pan the map to where you want to search from.

 

When panning, cannot change map settings

Eh, which settings? Are you looking for support for something like pressing MENU on a 60 CSx?

 

I'd like to be able to change which map sets are showing

 

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On where to go, an option should be Home where you can put your home coordinates

If you go there reasonably frequently (I do), it's always pretty high up in recent finds.

 

I use a custom POI in the category -Home, but it would be nice to just have home as a selection

 

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With the 60CSX, you could follow a track, I have not been able to figure out how to do it with the 400T

You can follow a track, but only in the same direction as you were going when it was recorded.

 

How? I got it to highlight like it is a route, but it did not indicate there was routing.

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Search near is what I meant by changing the reference point. But you can't set the reference point on the map, that's correct.

 

Well, if you save the (part of the) track you are interested in, then use Where to? -> Tracks -> the track in question, you can follow it at a later stage. That's how the Colorado handles following a previously recorded track.

Selecting which part to save, from a full active log, is so bad that you can say it's equivalent to not functional at all. Transfering the track to Mapsource, select what part you are interested in and send it back to the Colorado works much better.

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I got minor issue: Compass entry is duplicated in Others page:

 

doublecompassop3.jpg

 

I have changed my Automobile profile so that I use the following Shortcuts: Trip Computer, Where To?, Map, Active Route, Others

And I have set "Use Page Loop" (instead of Shortcut key).

 

Colorado 300, firmware 2.40

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I got minor issue: Compass entry is duplicated in Others page:

 

I have changed my Automobile profile so that I use the following Shortcuts: Trip Computer, Where To?, Map, Active Route, Others

And I have set "Use Page Loop" (instead of Shortcut key).

 

Colorado 300, firmware 2.40

 

If you can figure out how you did that I'll add it to the Issues List! I just created a new profile, added the same items to the Shortcuts you did, set it to page loop but I don't see two compass items.

 

GO$Rs

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I got minor issue: Compass entry is duplicated in Others page:

 

I have changed my Automobile profile so that I use the following Shortcuts: Trip Computer, Where To?, Map, Active Route, Others

And I have set "Use Page Loop" (instead of Shortcut key).

 

Colorado 300, firmware 2.40

 

If you can figure out how you did that I'll add it to the Issues List! I just created a new profile, added the same items to the Shortcuts you did, set it to page loop but I don't see two compass items.

 

It looks like this is only when routing is active (where there is "Stop Navigation") or even only when you use "demo" mode for routing (this is what I had to do now to reproduce it - as I am in house with no GPS signal).

If I stop navigation, "Stop Navigation" and one "Compass" disappear and as soon as I start new routing, I get them back ("Compass" shown twice).

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I was thinking of getting a Colorado for Geocaching and hicking but after reading this thread. I'm not sure that would be a good choice. Thoese of you who have the Colorado. Would you still recommand the Colorado?

Why don't you take the time to read the other "big" Colorado threads and come to your own conclusion.

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I got minor issue: Compass entry is duplicated in Others page:

 

I have changed my Automobile profile so that I use the following Shortcuts: Trip Computer, Where To?, Map, Active Route, Others

And I have set "Use Page Loop" (instead of Shortcut key).

 

Colorado 300, firmware 2.40

 

If you can figure out how you did that I'll add it to the Issues List! I just created a new profile, added the same items to the Shortcuts you did, set it to page loop but I don't see two compass items.

 

It looks like this is only when routing is active (where there is "Stop Navigation") or even only when you use "demo" mode for routing (this is what I had to do now to reproduce it - as I am in house with no GPS signal).

If I stop navigation, "Stop Navigation" and one "Compass" disappear and as soon as I start new routing, I get them back ("Compass" shown twice).

 

I'm assuming that you are autorouting with CityNav or similar? I tried a simple waypoint goto so that I would also have the Stop Navigation line like you did but still didn't get the double compass.

 

GO$Rs

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Neat! I can't reproduce this since I don't have any routable maps on mine. :blink:

Marky-

 

How do you get around?? :)

 

It's funny (sad?) how dependent I've grown on auto-routing. When I went to play the (great) Wherigo cartridge following the Meet & Greet event last month - I was stymied when all I was presented with was an arrow, and a distance.

 

How will I EVER find my way there? It's over 7 miles from here, across the urban south bay. I actually went BACK to the event, and asked frivlas and workerofwood if they could guide me to the park where the cache was. Better yet, I asked for a geocache in the same park/area - and since I had those loaded as POIs, I could select and auto-route to it. Whew! I knew I shouldn't have moved that Thomas Guide all the way to the box in the back of the Tahoe... :)

 

Back on topic: I'm still seeing some strange behavior (though I haven't experienced the double compass problem yet) when dealing with routing, switching between profiles / routing modes. As noted by others, it seems that certain activities "kill" the active route.

 

One final note: I've also seen the occasional lockups at boot time that Marky described, and others have confirmed. I'm confident it's NOT a problem with the particular GPX files loaded - as a subsequent boot (with the same file) works just fine.

 

Have a great weekend, everyone!

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I got minor issue: Compass entry is duplicated in Others page:

 

I have changed my Automobile profile so that I use the following Shortcuts: Trip Computer, Where To?, Map, Active Route, Others

And I have set "Use Page Loop" (instead of Shortcut key).

 

Colorado 300, firmware 2.40

 

If you can figure out how you did that I'll add it to the Issues List! I just created a new profile, added the same items to the Shortcuts you did, set it to page loop but I don't see two compass items.

 

It looks like this is only when routing is active (where there is "Stop Navigation") or even only when you use "demo" mode for routing (this is what I had to do now to reproduce it - as I am in house with no GPS signal).

If I stop navigation, "Stop Navigation" and one "Compass" disappear and as soon as I start new routing, I get them back ("Compass" shown twice).

 

I'm assuming that you are autorouting with CityNav or similar? I tried a simple waypoint goto so that I would also have the Stop Navigation line like you did but still didn't get the double compass.

 

 

I use AdriaRoute, which is similar to CityNav for my region. I have checked and it is actually routing option that makes the difference: if I have routing set for off-road, "Compass" is not duplicated, but as soon as I select "On Road" for routing, I get two "Compass" entries in "Others" menu. Another related issue: when I get duplicate entry, also clicking "Stop Navigation" does not seem to work - entry stays on the list, together with duplicate Compass entry (as if navigation would not be stopped). But when I select any other page and go Back, "Stop Navigation" and duplicate "Compass" entry are removed properly (so it looks like it works, but list is not properly updated).

 

Another minor issue: "Others" menu seems to be able to hold only 22 entries - then it starts cutting of the remaining entries from the list. I have seen this as in one profile I only have three pages (+ Others) listed in Shortcuts and when "Stop Navigation" is added, I loose "Satellite". It looks like this is only the case with duplicated entry.

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I also get a duplicate entry of "Mark Waypoint", when I use auto routing.

I am using Pageloop, and I have the compass page in the loop so it doesnt show up in the list.

When I removed the compass page from the loop, it wound up being the duplicate entry.

The top entry works, the lower entry does nothing.

I have Metroguide Canada loaded on mine.

 

I will be returning the unit next week, too many things need to be improved before it compares to my 60Cx.

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Can anyone comment on this 3GB vs 4GB memory on the 400t. Are people confused about what they have or did some really ship with 3GB? I thought they were supposed to have 4 GB? Were there some miscues in production and what are the chances of buying one and getting 3GB? Would Garmin honor an exchange if you get a 3 GB?? I'd feel ripped off if I paid the same as someone else and got shorted 1GB :D

 

Hmmm.. I hadnt even noticed. I wonder if I should stop by REI and insist on an exchange?

 

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

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I just picked up a 400t with serial # 40XX with 4GB of memory.

 

400tspace.jpg

 

I guess they started putting more memory in them again.

 

I could swear that my 18z000xxx 400t had the 2.78gb. I jut hooked it up and rechecked, now 3.72 gb. I am wondering is garmin partitions the ram in some way for the firmware update. Now that it is installed and a time period passes (guessing) it has deleted the partition and returned the memory to the free pool?

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

You can not edit GPX files on the Colorado. It takes a program like GSAK to do that effectively (although if you really want you can use a text editor).

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

You can not edit GPX files on the Colorado. It takes a program like GSAK to do that effectively (although if you really want you can use a text editor).

But with my Garmin Vista I could change them to what ever in the field. I normally do not carry my laptop with me when out caching to use my gsak program. although that would work on the puzzles ones but was looking for something with the multi stage ones. maybe they will add this. :lol::lol::D

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With 2.4 there are several issues that have been resolved...

 

 

When you turn the unit off in one location and turn it on somewhere else, it doesn't connect your last track point to the new location. This way there aren't annoying long straight lines on your map; each session has a new track log.

 

Hmmm. Mine is still connecting the tracks from two sessions together. Do I have a setting wrong?

 

-Keith

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With 2.4 there are several issues that have been resolved...

 

 

When you turn the unit off in one location and turn it on somewhere else, it doesn't connect your last track point to the new location. This way there aren't annoying long straight lines on your map; each session has a new track log.

 

Hmmm. Mine is still connecting the tracks from two sessions together. Do I have a setting wrong?

 

-Keith

I've had it happen a couple of times since upgrading to 2.40 but most of the time it begins a new tracklog when turning the unit on. I don't know of a way to change the settings for that.

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

You can not edit GPX files on the Colorado. It takes a program like GSAK to do that effectively (although if you really want you can use a text editor).

But with my Garmin Vista I could change them to what ever in the field. I normally do not carry my laptop with me when out caching to use my gsak program. although that would work on the puzzles ones but was looking for something with the multi stage ones. maybe they will add this. :o:D:D

Are you sure you were actually changing the GPX files? On the Vista, you can load caches from a GPX file but the unit (or your waypoint manager actually) converts them to its own format (you can also load LOC files). If you were to extract the changed files from your Vista, they would not be in GPX format; Mapsource has it's own format: .gdb. On the Colorado, if you take the GPX file off and put it on your PC it's still a GPX file. If you use Mapsource to do it, it will also be a .gdb file just like if you imported the waypoints from the Vista.

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

You can not edit GPX files on the Colorado. It takes a program like GSAK to do that effectively (although if you really want you can use a text editor).

But with my Garmin Vista I could change them to what ever in the field. I normally do not carry my laptop with me when out caching to use my gsak program. although that would work on the puzzles ones but was looking for something with the multi stage ones. maybe they will add this. :D:D:o

Are you sure you were actually changing the GPX files? On the Vista, you can load caches from a GPX file but the unit (or your waypoint manager actually) converts them to its own format (you can also load LOC files). If you were to extract the changed files from your Vista, they would not be in GPX format; Mapsource has it's own format: .gdb. On the Colorado, if you take the GPX file off and put it on your PC it's still a GPX file. If you use Mapsource to do it, it will also be a .gdb file just like if you imported the waypoints from the Vista.

I had loaded the ones into my Vista via GSAK program and then I loaded the file GPX file from the email from my pocket quiery. and I can go in and before I hit the goto button I can go up and edit the waypoint. I load the gpx file via like a hard drive into my Colorado and I can not do it. I do these both the GPX files.

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I was out with my brother this weekend doing some caching with him. I went to do a multi and I noiticed I could not edit my waypoints on my Geocaching ones. I ended up having to set up a new waypoint to do this. Am I missing something or can you not edit the waypoint on a geocache. This would be a pain when it came to doing puzzles. Any thoughts or what am I missing?

You can not edit GPX files on the Colorado. It takes a program like GSAK to do that effectively (although if you really want you can use a text editor).

But with my Garmin Vista I could change them to what ever in the field. I normally do not carry my laptop with me when out caching to use my gsak program. although that would work on the puzzles ones but was looking for something with the multi stage ones. maybe they will add this. :D:D:o

Are you sure you were actually changing the GPX files? On the Vista, you can load caches from a GPX file but the unit (or your waypoint manager actually) converts them to its own format (you can also load LOC files). If you were to extract the changed files from your Vista, they would not be in GPX format; Mapsource has it's own format: .gdb. On the Colorado, if you take the GPX file off and put it on your PC it's still a GPX file. If you use Mapsource to do it, it will also be a .gdb file just like if you imported the waypoints from the Vista.

I had loaded the ones into my Vista via GSAK program and then I loaded the file GPX file from the email from my pocket quiery. and I can go in and before I hit the goto button I can go up and edit the waypoint. I load the gpx file via like a hard drive into my Colorado and I can not do it. I do these both the GPX files.

That's what I thought...with the Vista, you're sending the waypoints to your GPsr. With the Colorado, you're copying the GPX file itself to the GPSr. The Vista isn't capable of reading the actual GPX file, but the Colorado is.

 

If you send your waypoints to the Colorado you'll be able to edit them, but unless you also copy the GPX file to it, you won't have all of the other features that go along with it (full cache descriptions, etc)

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