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Another suggestion from me, which i saw on the other caching-website.

 

When you click on the main map on an multicache-icon with given waypoints, the waypoints will shown up on their specific location on the main map.

And when you click on such a way point, it opens a little textbox with the information what you should do on this waypoint.

 

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I assume this is ONLY for the owner???

They said "given waypoints", so I assume it would be for any additional waypoints that have been marked as "Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates". That is, publicly viewable waypoints. For example, some puzzles or multis have several "Question to answer" type waypoints that could be displayed using the proposed feature.

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I assume this is ONLY for the owner???

They said "given waypoints", so I assume it would be for any additional waypoints that have been marked as "Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates". That is, publicly viewable waypoints. For example, some puzzles or multis have several "Question to answer" type waypoints that could be displayed using the proposed feature.

 

You are right. It is only for the public waypoints. The site opencaching.de which offers this service does not have entries for hidden waypoints at all. They do not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines.

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I assume this is ONLY for the owner???

They said "given waypoints", so I assume it would be for any additional waypoints that have been marked as "Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates". That is, publicly viewable waypoints. For example, some puzzles or multis have several "Question to answer" type waypoints that could be displayed using the proposed feature.

 

You are right. It is only for the public waypoints. The site opencaching.de which offers this service does not have entries for hidden waypoints at all. They do not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines.

 

Is it fair to make allegations about how a specific competing website works if we're not allowed to discuss it here?

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I assume this is ONLY for the owner???

They said "given waypoints", so I assume it would be for any additional waypoints that have been marked as "Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates". That is, publicly viewable waypoints. For example, some puzzles or multis have several "Question to answer" type waypoints that could be displayed using the proposed feature.

 

You are right. It is only for the public waypoints. The site opencaching.de which offers this service does not have entries for hidden waypoints at all. They do not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines.

 

Is it fair to make allegations about how a specific competing website works if we're not allowed to discuss it here?

 

I did not make allegations. I know how it works and I use both sites, this and the other one (if you look at the picture posted, you can recognize that the map snippet comes from the site I mentioned). Moreover, I do not see what could be an issue of debate with respect to the topic of interest here. I just provided information on the background how the feature the OP is asked for works at the site where he has seen it. Sometimes I'm really close to despair when it comes to understanding what people from the US could regard as potentially unfair/respectless etc. I'm aware of many cultural differences, but sometimes I have not the slightest clue what a concern could be about. I just wanted to be helpful and did not want to discuss anything.

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I assume this is ONLY for the owner???

They said "given waypoints", so I assume it would be for any additional waypoints that have been marked as "Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates". That is, publicly viewable waypoints. For example, some puzzles or multis have several "Question to answer" type waypoints that could be displayed using the proposed feature.

 

You are right. It is only for the public waypoints. The site opencaching.de which offers this service does not have entries for hidden waypoints at all. They do not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines.

 

Is it fair to make allegations about how a specific competing website works if we're not allowed to discuss it here?

 

I did not make allegations. I know how it works and I use both sites, this and the other one (if you look at the picture posted, you can recognize that the map snippet comes from the site I mentioned). Moreover, I do not see what could be an issue of debate with respect to the topic of interest here.

 

The topic of interest here is waypoints on a map. What does "not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines" have to do with waypoints on a map?

 

The point is, people have had temporarily forum bans from discussing what GS considers a competing site. Where the "fairness" comes in, is that you can make statements about a lack of features on a competing site (which many might consider to be a flaw) but due to GS policy, someone that tried to discuss why the site doesn't have those features could get banned from the forums, and there *is* a regular in this forum that knows a lot more about that site than both of us.

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The topic of interest here is waypoints on a map. What does "not have reviewers and they have no saturation guidelines" have to do with waypoints on a map?

 

It's the reason why there do not exist hidden waypoints (the cache owners do not provide any waypoints for cache finals and physical stages at all). The fact that there are

only public waypoints makes the implementation of the feature easier. I just wanted to explain why opencaching.de can simply display all waypoints available to the site and does not need to make any distinction.

 

The point is, people have had temporarily forum bans from discussing what GS considers a competing site. Where the "fairness" comes in, is that you can make statements about a lack of features on a competing site (which many might consider to be a flaw) but due to GS policy,

 

I do not want to start a dicussion on this (it's not of relevance to this thread's topic), but I'd just like to mention that having no reviewers and so such rules was one of the driving forces behind the opencaching movement that started more than a decade ago. The other one was the open source motivation with respect to the system's code.

 

someone that tried to discuss why the site doesn't have those features could get banned from the forums, and there *is* a regular in this forum that knows a lot more about that site than both of us.

 

I do not think that a regular in this forum knows more about opencaching.de (it is not about the Garmin site which is something entirely different and which never found acceptance in continental Europe). I know the people who started opencaching.de more than a decade ago and I know some of those who are currently very active and none of them frequents this forum. I also would estimate the risk that someone wants to discuss why opencaching.de does not have those features in this forum to be pretty low and I think that I know the German speaking geocaching community better than you.

 

 

Cezanne

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someone that tried to discuss why the site doesn't have those features could get banned from the forums, and there *is* a regular in this forum that knows a lot more about that site than both of us.

 

I do not think that a regular in this forum knows more about opencaching.de (it is not about the Garmin site which is something entirely different and which never found acceptance in continental Europe). I know the people who started opencaching.de more than a decade ago and I know some of those who are currently very active and none of them frequents this forum. I also would estimate the risk that someone wants to discuss why opencaching.de does not have those features in this forum to be pretty low and I think that I know the German speaking geocaching community better than you.

 

Cezanne

 

And I happen to know that the site is based on a common platform, that the site in Germany is not the only instance that uses it. Knowing someone that manages the site in Germany would not generally provide the expertise would be required to manage a site that uses the same at a different instance. I know someone quite well that was a surgeon (he's retired) but that doesn't make me qualified to be a doctor.

 

Bottom line, the OP didn't feel the need to mention the specific site. You could have discussed hidden waypoints without mentioning the the specific site as well. The topic is about a specific feature. It really doesn't matter what other site has implemented it.

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And I happen to know that the site is based on a common platform, that the site in Germany is not the only instance that uses it.

 

No, but the German was the first one and the one with which everything started off very long ago.

Moreover, the different opencaching sites do not offer the same features, they are not using the same code and have developped very differently (contrary to what originally has been planned). The map features offered differ from site to site and I have not seen the special feature that information on the waypoint is offered on another site than opencaching.de.

The feature mentioned here is relatively new on oc.de. At the opencaching sites they tend to add the features that are requested frequently by users and the much higher number of multi stage caches in German speaking areas certainly influences what features are highly demanded.

 

Bottom line, the OP didn't feel the need to mention the specific site. You could have discussed hidden waypoints without mentioning the the specific site as well. The topic is about a specific feature. It really doesn't matter what other site has implemented it.

 

The OP wrote "the other caching-website" and it sounded like he only knows this site and the other one. So there was no need for him to mention the site.

 

What the OP asked for has two aspects, first that the waypoints are shown at all at the map and second, that the additional waypoint information is provided for each of these waypoints.

I thought (and still think) that one might get a better idea what the OP really asked for when one could have a look. The static picture posted does not provide the full impression. For example, it would become apparent that there are much less caches on oc.de than on gc.com and thus the maps do not get that crowded even though all the additional waypoints are shown on the map. Personally, I think this might not work in the same nice way on gc.com.

 

 

Cezanne

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