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I was just wondering, whats the minimum distance allowed between 2 placed geocaches?

 

You're wondering now, after placing 9 caches?

 

The Guidelines:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx

 

Specifically 1. Fundamental Placement Guidelines item #7

 

Help Center - Hiding a Geocache

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.book&id=19

 

 

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I was thinking, why is this person making youtube videos about geocaching if they don't know the basic guidelines.

 

Say WHAT???????????

 

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"Experience" with placing caches, but doesn't know the Guidelines.

 

Even worse, doesn't know where to find this most basic information.

 

Never ceases to amaze me. <_<

 

 

B.

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"Experience" with placing caches, but doesn't know the Guidelines.

 

Even worse, doesn't know where to find this most basic information.

 

Never ceases to amaze me. <_<

 

But is passionate about geocaching <_<

 

Longest Slump

419 consecutive days without a find from 14/07/2013 to 06/09/2014

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"Experience" with placing caches, but doesn't know the Guidelines.

 

Even worse, doesn't know where to find this most basic information.

 

Never ceases to amaze me. <_<

 

But is passionate about geocaching <_<

 

Longest Slump

419 consecutive days without a find from 14/07/2013 to 06/09/2014

OK, I think this is crossing the line into "creeping". Really, while some red flags seem to pop up here, what on earth does the consecutive days without a find matter.

 

I think I am going to turn off my stats. This is too creepy.

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"Experience" with placing caches, but doesn't know the Guidelines.

 

Even worse, doesn't know where to find this most basic information.

 

Never ceases to amaze me. <_<

 

But is passionate about geocaching <_<

 

Longest Slump

419 consecutive days without a find from 14/07/2013 to 06/09/2014

OK, I think this is crossing the line into "creeping". Really, while some red flags seem to pop up here, what on earth does the consecutive days without a find matter.

 

I think I am going to turn off my stats. This is too creepy.

 

It says much more about the person doing the creeping, as far as I'm concerned.

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I have no problem with folks looking at my stats. It means nothing to look at them.

 

Pup Patrol's stats

 

Longest Slump 407 consecutive days without a find from 06/19/2005 to 07/31/2006

 

Mind you, I don't claim to be passionate about geocaching, and I certainly don't post any videos claiming to be an expert on geocaching.

 

 

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I was just wondering, whats the minimum distance allowed between 2 placed geocaches?

 

You're wondering now, after placing 9 caches?

 

The Guidelines:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx

 

Specifically 1. Fundamental Placement Guidelines item #7

 

Help Center - Hiding a Geocache

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.book&id=19

 

 

B.

 

But my nine caches are not in close proximity to another cache. So i don't know.

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Well thanks to the first two people who answered my question and the others who helped rather then question my state's on Caching. So to keep all the haters happy.....

 

Why the geocaching slump?

Because I have a very VERY busy work life style because i work in mainstream media. Broadcast Television. That takes up ALOT of my time. I also do Commercial Radio. Sorry for being so ambitious!

No....I could not find the basic rules to caching. But I do know where they are now.

Yes....Geocaching is a passion of mine that i can not do all the time (back to the work thing)

And please understand, I may not be as a "Die hard" gecacher as yourselfs, but I enjoy it as a hobby and to express my passion, I like to make videos! If you don't like what i do.....JUST DON'T WATCH! And go away rather then disecting what I do and leaving your hateful messages. I asked a perfectly legit question on this forum.....I did not ask for hurtful comments. And I thought the Geocaching community was a nice one full of supportive people. Geez did i guess wrong.

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I was just wondering, whats the minimum distance allowed between 2 placed geocaches?

 

You're wondering now, after placing 9 caches?

 

The Guidelines:

 

http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx

 

Specifically 1. Fundamental Placement Guidelines item #7

 

Help Center - Hiding a Geocache

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.book&id=19

 

 

B.

 

But my nine caches are not in close proximity to another cache. So i don't know.

To try and be as constructive as I can be...I'll say this to you:

 

Perhaps now is a very, very good time to visit the Knowledge Books and Help Center to learn more about the game. There are many complex and somewhat confusing guidelines to consider when hiding and seeking geocaches. Before you did too deep a hole, it would behoove you to learn fundamentals such as distance between cache requirements--both general and for specific areas that might have alternative and longer distance requirements between caches.

 

It appears to me, and others here on this thread, that you might be getting ahead of yourself (or have been ahead of yourself for some time...).

 

So yes, the required minimum distance between physical geocaches is 528 feet. Other distance rules may apply in different areas, and depend on the manager for/of that land.

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noted. I love being ahead. just hope you can keep up ;)

Perhaps this topic would make for a good next video segment? A "weekly top tip" or something? You have a chance to use your passion for vlogs and geocaching to help others learn from you.

 

Then we can really talk about being ahead of anything--you'd get out ahead of all the negativity by showing humility, helping others, and continuing to do what you are passionate about.

 

I'm not trying to pile on here, CSavvy, just try to calm the situation down and have you see where the negativity is coming from--it is valid, albeit presented poorly.

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

Well, you understand how important credibility can be. If you really want to stand out as a credible and quality production, don't miss the details. Do be sure to get to know the guidelines better. You've set yourself out as a "public figure" for geocaching. Some day you might be asked this same question, and you're going to need to know the answers or where to send that person to find it themselves.

 

So, yeah, don't lose credibility. If you are passionate about what you're doing, you'll also need to direct some energy back into learning more. If the forums aren't your cup of tea, then perhaps the facebook pages and groups out there are better for you. Overall the forums aren't that bad, but I can see why you'd think about never coming back. But the real issue here is that you are set up as a "resource" for the game, and you stepped in it when you let on that you didn't know a fundamental guideline in a thread in this forum. That's a stinky bit o' poo to step in. So wash it off, brush up on the Knowledge Books, and get back at it. Have fun out there--I'm sure you will.

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Well thanks to the first two people who answered my question and the others who helped rather then question my state's on Caching. So to keep all the haters happy.....

 

Why the geocaching slump?

Because I have a very VERY busy work life style because i work in mainstream media. Broadcast Television. That takes up ALOT of my time. I also do Commercial Radio. Sorry for being so ambitious!

No....I could not find the basic rules to caching. But I do know where they are now.

Yes....Geocaching is a passion of mine that i can not do all the time (back to the work thing)

And please understand, I may not be as a "Die hard" gecacher as yourselfs, but I enjoy it as a hobby and to express my passion, I like to make videos! If you don't like what i do.....JUST DON'T WATCH! And go away rather then disecting what I do and leaving your hateful messages. I asked a perfectly legit question on this forum.....I did not ask for hurtful comments. And I thought the Geocaching community was a nice one full of supportive people. Geez did i guess wrong.

 

Are you attempting to spam us? :blink:

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However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

 

That's probably best for you; some people are just too sensitive to participate in a discussion where everything is not sugar-coated for them. If they can't take blunt comments and questions without getting their feelings hurt, they are probably better off staying away from internet discussion boards.

 

People who ask questions are not necessarily "haters." Mostly they are trying to understand the situation. Sure, we don't always say "pretty please, with sugar on top," but for the most part we're well intentioned and trying to help.

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I've got a longer "slump" than that. Maybe this should be a new thread--Who's got the longest slump?

 

Here's mine:

 

Longest Slump 756 consecutive days without a find from 02/04/2006 to 03/01/2008

 

Awww, I thought I had this one won. Longest Slump 723 consecutive days without a find from 08/12/2012 to 08/05/2014

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

Score another point to those who bash fellow cachers like baby seals. Let's drive more folks away from the forums.

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

Score another point to those who bash fellow cachers like baby seals. Let's drive more folks away from the forums.

 

Yeah, this didn't go as well as it should have. And as much as I usually like and agree with the posts of the person who brought up the guys longest drought, where did that one come from? :blink:

 

Not to suck up too much, but I thought every one of NeverSummer's posts in the thread were excellent, especially post #21. The OP has put themselves in a position of being the face of Geocaching, and you don't have cred, as we say on this side of the pond, if you're not knowledgeable in the subject matter. The 528 ft./161 meter "rule" is just such a basic tenet of Geocaching knowledge. I could probably compare it to "not knowing this in this sport, or not knowing that in that sport", but I'd probably only steer us off topic.

 

So yeah, it's all about credibility, and put me down for how NeverSummer put it in post #21.

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And as much as I usually like and agree with the posts of the person who brought up the guys longest drought, where did that one come from? :blink:

 

It comes back to the all important credibility that others are talking about in this thread :)

 

I'm guilty of cross-posting to a degree. In another of the OP's threads - this time one specifically pushing his (new?) YouTube channel - and one that you contributed to, the OP claimed that we all share the same passion for geocaching. That was always going to be untrue, but I opted to have a peep at the OP's stats as a very rough guide to the measure of his passion and, sadly, I saw little :(

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

Score another point to those who bash fellow cachers like baby seals. Let's drive more folks away from the forums.

 

Yeah, this didn't go as well as it should have. And as much as I usually like and agree with the posts of the person who brought up the guys longest drought, where did that one come from? :blink:

 

Not to suck up too much, but I thought every one of NeverSummer's posts in the thread were excellent, especially post #21. The OP has put themselves in a position of being the face of Geocaching, and you don't have cred, as we say on this side of the pond, if you're not knowledgeable in the subject matter. The 528 ft./161 meter "rule" is just such a basic tenet of Geocaching knowledge. I could probably compare it to "not knowing this in this sport, or not knowing that in that sport", but I'd probably only steer us off topic.

 

So yeah, it's all about credibility, and put me down for how NeverSummer put it in post #21.

I'm blushing over here! Thanks, Yuck. :anicute:

 

I think the credibility gap is also a factor in other areas. See the "numbers cachers" thread(s) for examples of this. Whether people want it or not, it is another display of people who might appear to be an authority on geocaching, but happen to be in that position because of unwholesome or sketchy behavior. Meaning, not every cacher with over 15k finds is a credible authority on how the game "should" be played.

 

That doesn't mean that some or most of those "high number cachers" aren't credible. In fact, we can all point to a geocacher in our community with a "high number of finds", or a good YouTube blog for geocaching which are credible by showing a good understanding of the greater gameplay. By putting oneself in the fore of attention (a YouTube channel, having a high number of finds or hides, etc.), others may assume that they are knowledgeable, credible sources of information. Unfortunately that isn't always true and they need to be aware of this.

 

This is why recruitment for Volunteer Reviewer isn't simply based on hide or find counts. Nobody will "win" this game by having a YouTube channel or higher find count. What wins this game is what really made it pick up in the first place--being a welcoming, tech-savvy, outdoor aficionado who fosters community, respect, and in-depth knowledge about the guidelines for the game and specific knowledge about their neighborhood/community and regulations which might impact gameplay there.

 

Those who work at making the game better, yet consistent across the board are welcomed as more credible IMO. This is where forming a credibility deficit (being a "public figure" for the game via blogs, webstores, Vlogs, etc., yet not knowing the essential guidelines of the game) is going to work against you in a very, very bad way. (See the snappy and pointed surprise replies to the OP)

 

Being passionate isn't a sole indicator of your credibility either. We can easily uncover examples of this in the forums or from our regular geocaching interactions. A person caching for 6 months and 1000 finds doesn't mean they have a strong grasp for the guidelines or local best practices for seeking or hiding geocaches (threads on "must have X finds before placing a cache", e.g.). A cacher who has been around for 5+ years but only has 100 finds is no less credible than another with a different "age" and find count; we're all different. How we choose to act in light of our differences is far more telling of our level of credibility in this game...or these forums.

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Thanks Caching in the 49th state for trying to be the peace keeper. I understand there will always be haters. You can't please everyone. I have also learned that a lot of people can find it so easy to be negative, but very difficult to find anything positive. I am a very positive person and pretty happy 90% of the time. However i have learnt a valuable lession from this thread, and thats not to post on these geocaching forums again.

 

If people don't like my vlogs or how I cache, that is fine. However, i do know that there a way more people who love my vlogs, and it's those people who i will surround myself with and keep positive. So thanks to all the ones who support me. They understand what Geocaching is all about. Being supportive, adventure and fun.

Score another point to those who bash fellow cachers like baby seals. Let's drive more folks away from the forums.

Let's hope he can put aside his bad first forum experience and return. So he has limited time for caching due to his career, and at least at the moment he's a "big picture" kind of person who's weak on some important details. Still, someone who makes caching videos should be welcomed to the forums, and I hope he returns. There are many who love caching but have other activities and commitments that limit their caching time.

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