+thatbrowncat Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Which trackable? What is the public reference number? I would like to read the trackable page to see this option to move it to your collection. B. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I didn't see either of the two you're holding now saying anything about adoption on the trackable's page. Quote Link to comment
+TriciaG Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Moving it to your collection doesn't make it yours; it doesn't adopt it over to you. Moving a TB to your collection means it cannot be dropped or retrieved from caches, but can only be discovered. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Which trackable? What is the public reference number? I would like to read the trackable page to see this option to move it to your collection. B. If it's the one from Denmark, it may be that confusing, "This is collectible" thing again... Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Placing a coin in a collection is a different thing than adopting it. You may place it onto a cache and put it on a watch list. But you don't own it. If the owner hasn't set up the adoption process, you can't complete the adoption, so it still shows up as the original owner's TB. Does the TB page say anything about “You may move this to your Collection but I still own it of course, so you're not allowed to sell it”? It's very rare to see that kind of thing. Mount10Bike's Geocoins have a similar thing – anyone may keep one as long as they like, but are restricted from selling the coins. If there's no statement suggesting that the “Collectible” setting was intentional, it's certainly a different situation. What often happens in these cases is, people love to press buttons, so they selected the “This Is Collectible” checkbox and placed the TB into a cache. This allows a finder (after properly logging the Retrieval) to place it into their Collection. All that does is remove some menu items. The “Collection” is a way to reduce clutter when logging coins. If you move it to your Collection, placing it in a cache is counter-productive. "Discover" and "Note" become the only logs that finders can make. Edited June 21, 2015 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+thatbrowncat Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Which trackable? What is the public reference number? I would like to read the trackable page to see this option to move it to your collection. B. It is Timmy the Travel Bug. When I go to the top of the home page, there is a section called "Your Trackable Inventory". Beside Timmy (and not the other one and none of the trackables I have moved) it says move to your collection. I've never seen that and wondered why it was an option. Quote Link to comment
+thatbrowncat Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Which trackable? What is the public reference number? I would like to read the trackable page to see this option to move it to your collection. B. It is Timmy the Travel Bug. When I go to the top of the home page, there is a section called "Your Trackable Inventory". Beside Timmy (and not the other one and none of the other trackables I have moved) it says move to your collection. (There is a section action and there are two options - Log and Move to Collection.) I've never seen that and wondered why it was an option. Edited June 21, 2015 by thatbrowncat Quote Link to comment
+thatbrowncat Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Which trackable? What is the public reference number? I would like to read the trackable page to see this option to move it to your collection. B. If it's the one from Denmark, it may be that confusing, "This is collectible" thing again... No, it is my understanding that nothing with a tracking number can be collected into my personal "stash". I know it has to be moved. I can't hold onto anything. Quote Link to comment
+thatbrowncat Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 I have a trackable in my inventory. There is an option to move the trackable to my collection. The original owner has not found any geocaches for quite some time (years) and hasn't logged on in almost one year. I don't want to keep the travel bug, but if it doesn't have an owner and the person has opted to let someone else adopt it, I would like to do so and watch it on it's journey. Is that why the option is showing up to move to my collection? Placing a coin in a collection is a different thing than adopting it. You may place it onto a cache and put it on a watch list. But you don't own it. If the owner hasn't set up the adoption process, you can't complete the adoption, so it still shows up as the original owner's TB. Does the TB page say anything about “You may move this to your Collection but I still own it of course, so you're not allowed to sell it”? It's very rare to see that kind of thing. Mount10Bike's Geocoins have a similar thing – anyone may keep one as long as they like, but are restricted from selling the coins. If there's no statement suggesting that the “Collectible” setting was intentional, it's certainly a different situation. What often happens in these cases is, people love to press buttons, so they selected the “This Is Collectible” checkbox and placed the TB into a cache. This allows a finder (after properly logging the Retrieval) to place it into their Collection. All that does is remove some menu items. The “Collection” is a way to reduce clutter when logging coins. If you move it to your Collection, placing it in a cache is counter-productive. "Discover" and "Note" become the only logs that finders can make. Ok. Thank you. Good information. Quote Link to comment
+thatbrowncat Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Moving it to your collection doesn't make it yours; it doesn't adopt it over to you. Moving a TB to your collection means it cannot be dropped or retrieved from caches, but can only be discovered. Thank you. Why would that even be an option for someone to do to someone else's trackable? Doesn't seem right that you send your trackable out and another party can make it where it can only be discovered. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Why would that even be an option for someone to do to someone else's trackable? Doesn't seem right that you send your trackable out and another party can make it where it can only be discovered. The "Collectible" feature was designed to solve a lot of issues at once. What cachers should do is weigh the benefits and pitfalls and decide if there's a purpose in their specific case for even messing with "Collectible" or "Collections". Instead they just select for no particular reason. Go figure. OK, here's a practical reason. This is for people who own lots of activated Geocoins, and bring the coins in a binder for others to discover at events ("Discover" logs causing special coin icons to be added to the Discoverer's list each time): Someone on the other side of the world finds and Retrieves your Geocoin, and it would complete his set of all four colors (or whatever) of the coin, so he contacts you. You select "This is Collectible", the holder places it in his Collection (on loan from you like in a museum) and you don't have to be awake when the transaction occurs. Now the set can go to Events and be discovered by people. For convenience, only certain logs are available to be made. "This Is Collectible" is not at all a suitable way to gift a coin, nor a viable excuse to keep it against the wishes of the Owner who wanted it to be placed in a cache, retrieved then placed in another, forevermore. Edited June 21, 2015 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+Blue_Ranger Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 The only trackable I've activated so far is my hiking stick. I made it collectible and put it in my collection-- it's not going into a cache any time soon. I've seen trackables where it's the owner's actual car, and it's listed as being in a cache. The collection option makes it so no one accidentally (or jokingly) "picks up" a trackable that they were supposed to just discover. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) The only trackable I've activated so far is my hiking stick. I made it collectible and put it in my collection-- it's not going into a cache any time soon. I've seen trackables where it's the owner's actual car, and it's listed as being in a cache. The collection option makes it so no one accidentally (or jokingly) "picks up" a trackable that they were supposed to just discover. Right. As I said, there is versatility in the "Collectible" feature. But as with other features on the site, for those who can't figure out what it's for, nor have a use for it, it's best to leave it unused. And I leave my car TB "Not Collectible" to allow me all the flexibility to make my logs as I see fit. The accident-prone and the jokester need to cut it out. Edited June 21, 2015 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+Nadiagoescaching Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I made some of my trackables non collectible when I activated them and now I want to put them in my collection so they are not travelling anymore. How do I do this please? Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I made some of my trackables non collectible when I activated them and now I want to put them in my collection so they are not travelling anymore. How do I do this please? http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=250 Quote Link to comment
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