Pictures taken by Google Street View

1.4k · July 13, 2015

Hi,

I just declined about 100 Waymarks, all pictures have been taken from google street view. Yes, if you do it right it looks like you have taken them by yourself. The Waymarker who sumitted them waymarks since 2006 and has over 2,000 waymarks created. If you check his last approved waymarks, many are taken from google street view. What to do?

Regards,

lumbricus

5.7k · July 13, 2015

Hi,

I just declined about 100 Waymarks, all pictures have been taken from google street view. Yes, if you do it right it looks like you have taken them by yourself. The Waymarker who sumitted them waymarks since 2006 and has over 2,000 waymarks created. If you check his last approved waymarks, many are taken from google street view. What to do?

Regards,

lumbricus

What is the Waymarking site coming to? That's an end. It's not worth dealing with anymore, I'll hunt geocaches.

Quite a few of the last waymarks published look like they were taken from google street view or drive-by Waymarking.

9.2k · July 13, 2015

I declined a lot as a leader in one category, and have put it to a vote (others also said "NO") in categories I'm an officer.

Wonder if it's the same cacher... I have seen other waymarks that have been submitted and accepted in other categories I'm not an officer.

July 13, 2015

Hi,

I just declined about 100 Waymarks, all pictures have been taken from google street view. Yes, if you do it right it looks like you have taken them by yourself. The Waymarker who sumitted them waymarks since 2006 and has over 2,000 waymarks created. If you check his last approved waymarks, many are taken from google street view. What to do?

Regards,

lumbricus

Send the name of the transgressor to all those holding Officer status so we can be forewarned.

7.8k · July 13, 2015

I'm wondering if this/these user(s) should be brought to the attention of Groundspeak. If they're routinely submitting Google StreetView imagery without giving due credit, that could get Groundspeak into copyright hot-water. Groundspeak could bulk-decline the Waymarks for the user(s) and maybe even ban them if they continue to do it.

1.4k · July 14, 2015

I checked more of his categories and all of the latest submissions are taken from Google Street View (I would guess 500+). Google doesn't allow this kind of use. Should I bring his name here and some examples? We really have to stop this.

1.4k · July 14, 2015

It's getting better, post offices needed? Take them from this flic*er account: https://www.flickr.com/photos/postoffices/albums -> and creat a waymark, or better 100+.

July 14, 2015

500 + :blink:

Lumbricus can you PLZ PM or mail me the name so i can take a look also.

Thx John.

July 14, 2015

I checked more of his categories and all of the latest submissions are taken from Google Street View (I would guess 500+). Google doesn't allow this kind of use. Should I bring his name here and some examples? We really have to stop this.

July 14, 2015

I think the Waymarking Core members should be made aware.

What method do you use to identify this abuse.

I was wondering If I have ever been duped.

July 14, 2015

I think the Waymarking Core members should be made aware.

Great idea !

Vote called in the Waymarking Core members Group to demote someone.

Now we have got a name. Thx.

Edited July 14, 2015 by dreamhummie

1.4k · July 14, 2015

...

What method do you use to identify this abuse.

I was wondering If I have ever been duped.

Just check the coordinates at google street view, sometimes it's tricky to find the same angle/cutout of the screenshot.

July 14, 2015

sometimes it's tricky to find the same angle/cutout of the screenshot.

Thx for the screens shots. I can't surf on the site. ERRORS ERRORS ERRORS.

Broken cables above the building says enough in his picture.

5.7k · July 15, 2015

I think the Waymarking Core members should be made aware.

Great idea !

Vote called in the Waymarking Core members Group to demote someone.

Now we have got a name. Thx.

Exactly why Waymarking failed. It is not a community of Waymarkers, but a few elitist that think they can run the site. <_<

July 15, 2015

Exactly why Waymarking failed. It is not a community of Waymarkers, but a few elitist that think they can run the site.

Waymarking has always been a self-policing site managed by the community, with votes on new categories, then approvals of submissions by category officers, etc. Are you saying you think this is a bad thing? Or that the people in the community who vote and make decisions are elitist?

Do you believe there should be any quality standards imposed at the Waymarking site?

Do you think the practice being used by the individual making submissions using photos from Google Street View is acceptable?

5.7k · July 15, 2015

Exactly why Waymarking failed. It is not a community of Waymarkers, but a few elitist that think they can run the site.

Waymarking has always been a self-policing site managed by the community, with votes on new categories, then approvals of submissions by category officers, etc. Are you saying you think this is a bad thing? Or that the people in the community who vote and make decisions are elitist?

Do you believe there should be any quality standards imposed at the Waymarking site?

Do you think the practice being used by the individual making submissions using photos from Google Street View is acceptable?

Sure, whatever you say. :anibad: I really don't care about this site anymore. Groundspeak left long ago. Hopefully they will kill off this site and the fourms here and consentrate on geocaching and what pays the hamsters and not a few waymarkers that think their membership supports geocaching. :lol:

1.1k · July 16, 2015

But the same thing could be said the other way around by some of us. I really do not care about geocaching much, and it's too bad that Waymarking had to grow out of it instead of just coming along as its own game. If there was someone with the time and know-how that Groundspeak could just give Waymarking to, that'd be great. I'm kind of in the latter camp, but I don't have the time.

5.7k · July 16, 2015

But the same thing could be said the other way around by some of us. I really do not care about geocaching much, and it's too bad that Waymarking had to grow out of it instead of just coming along as its own game. If there was someone with the time and know-how that Groundspeak could just give Waymarking to, that'd be great. I'm kind of in the latter camp, but I don't have the time.

Groundspeak is a business and their revenue comes from geocaching, not Waymarking. It is geocachers like myself that pays a membership fee that keeps the Waymarking site going. I would like to think that my membership goes to add new and better features to the geocaching site and not to support Waymarking. I agree with you that the Waymarking site should be a seperate site and let the waymarkers support it. I believe Groundspeak would have already sold this site if any parties were interested, but I don't think they would give it away because they are a business.

July 16, 2015

Hopefully they will kill off this site and the fourms here and consentrate on geocaching and what pays the hamsters and not a few waymarkers that think their membership supports geocaching.

Sorry but I don't understand above.

Why are you still active in the Waymarking forum and on Waymarking ?

I'am not a Geocacher anymore because of the BIG cheating.

I pay Groundspeak 30 bucks for Waymarking and I am not active on the GC site & Forum.

Grtz from a happy Waymarker and Waymarking Core member.

5.7k · July 16, 2015

Hopefully they will kill off this site and the fourms here and consentrate on geocaching and what pays the hamsters and not a few waymarkers that think their membership supports geocaching.

Sorry but I don't understand above.

Why are you still active in the Waymarking forum and on Waymarking ?

I'am not a Geocacher anymore because of the BIG cheating.

I pay Groundspeak 30 bucks for Waymarking and I am not active on the GC site & Forum.

Grtz from a happy Waymarker and Waymarking Core member.

Why, just because I'm not in your core group does that mean I am not a Waymarker? I have been active here for over six years, and just because I'm not part of your group does not change facts.

And you say geocaching is BIG cheating yet here it is acceptable to post waymarks using google earth? :lol:

7.8k · July 16, 2015

...post waymarks using google earth?

Speaking of which... (ie. getting back on-topic)

Has anyone reported the Waymarker in question to TPTB?

Using information gleaned from the earlier screenshots, I was able to find the culprit pretty quickly thanks to several clearly-Google StreetView Waymarks. Strangely, they have on their profile page:

My life is always on the run, so I see allot of things to photograph (and Waymark).

It's too bad they don't actually stop to take those photographs. :laughing:

5.7k · July 17, 2015

Yeah, really. Getting back on topic. I'm as upset about that too. I mean whether or not I am accepted here as a waymarker I do have standards. :laughing:

I don't think that TBTB will do anything about it even if reported. It should be left up to the category managers.

I have reviewed waymarks that I thought the photos were questionable.

Myself, I only sumbit photos that I have taken. :anitongue:

August 4, 2015

Most categories call for photos taken personally by 'you.' A screen grab from Google Street view is not 'personally taken by you.' If you let me know the individual, I will be happy to re-review their Waymarks in the categories I help in and decide accordingly.

Take care, Outspoken1

1.1k · August 4, 2015

Yeah. What categories can we expect to see these violations in? I don't know about others, but I do believe that their waymarks that show Google Street View photos should be declined.

Some may feel that Waymarking is a little less "strict" than Geocaching because you aren't forced to open/sign/replace, but instead just be there, take photos and write up a (hopefully good) description. But that is going too far, in my opinion.

Edited August 4, 2015 by MountainWoods

7.8k · August 4, 2015

Is it time we just outed them so officers can look for their problematic Waymarks? I can't remember their name right now, but could quickly find it again.

5.7k · August 4, 2015

I thought this was alreay brought up and discussed in the secret meeting? :laughing:

In the past I have rejected what appeared as "drive-by Waymarking" of Historical Markers. :unsure:

August 15, 2015

BUG plz read post #28

Edited August 15, 2015 by dreamhummie

August 15, 2015

Last weeks I contact some Leaders, Officers and Posters because of posting Internet or Google Streetview pics.

I am pleased to report that the posters themselves have removed their waymarks after my e-mail.

But some posters removed only the pics and now it is a WM without pics.

I contact Leaders/Officers/Reviewers that there are WM in there category with out any pictures.

Nobody gives a Comment to me and accept WM without pics.

Sorry to say but that's not reviewing your category and keep it up2date for Waymarking.

Some Officers have no idea wath they are reviewing, don't read there own posting rules.

Everybody is afraid to call names.

I named one here for an example because I contact the Leader and Officers to stop this and they don't take any action about this.

Category: A + W Restaurants

The Guy posted many Streetview pics and later (after e-mail) removed or replaced them.

And now some are posted and still accepted without pics.

WMP924 WMP927 WMP92Y WMP935

I Prefer to name Categories, Leaders/Officers and Posters who are not know there rules on Waymarking.

(After a nice mail to look and edit or remove it)

3 weeks after a mail and login every day and take not a notice of it.

Happy Waymarking

Grtz John.

Edited August 15, 2015 by dreamhummie

4.8k · August 15, 2015

Happy Waymarking

Funny thing is, I don't feel very happy at all

1.2k · August 18, 2015

Perhaps WMs that are still up without photos could be moved to the category for assisted waymarks? Then another person could take a personal pic and get them republished.

Or, if those WMs have been visited, perhaps a visitor posted a pic that could be used as the default image with the permission of the photographer?

Or, maybe since it is a chain category, in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter too much, and we should go out and play our game?

I have 4000+ pix from vacation -- and I hope to post at least 12 new WM today.

5.7k · August 18, 2015

I took a photo of a water tower while driving by it a few days ago, it can also be seen in google street view. I know the tower is listed as a BM and in the BM category here. I was thinking that we need a new category for Drive-By Waymarking where we submit a photo from google street view and then drive by them and take a photo to log as our visit.

Anyone interested in becoming an officer? :laughing:

1.4k · August 19, 2015

...Or, if those WMs have been visited, perhaps a visitor posted a pic that could be used as the default image with the permission of the photographer?...

That's the best idea. I think you don't need the permission of the photographer because the picture is already part of the gallery. I do this sometimes with older Waymarks which had no pictures in the beginning, but got pictures over the years through visits. In the beginning of Waymarking some categories didn't require a picture.

1.2k · August 20, 2015

...Or, if those WMs have been visited, perhaps a visitor posted a pic that could be used as the default image with the permission of the photographer?...

That's the best idea. I think you don't need the permission of the photographer because the picture is already part of the gallery. I do this sometimes with older Waymarks which had no pictures in the beginning, but got pictures over the years through visits. In the beginning of Waymarking some categories didn't require a picture.

Please note that I use CAPS for EMPHASIS, not for yelling

Maybe if the pic is in the gallery it COULD be grabbed for the default image, but it's STILL POLITE TO ASK!

It is a photo that was uploaded for the waymark VISITOR to prove a visit, not for the waymark OWNER to use for the owner's purposes. I would like to be asked to use my visit image as the default WM photo -- and I would always say YES

I did offer one to a WM owner who waymarked a missing historic marker with a photo of a blank post. I KNEW I had an image of the marker before it went missing, so I posted a visit, uploaded my photo, and offered in an email for the owner to use my pic as the default photo. He accepted. I was happy to help him and make the WM better.

I think in Waymarking we should look for ways to HELP one another make the best waymarks, not make mean-spirited comments or hold other waymarkers up to scorn or ridicule in our community over getting lazy sometimes. (This is not to say it is EVER okay to use Google Map images for WM photos, or visit waymarks from your pajamas at home when you have never been there.).

This is a GAME, and it is supposed to be FUN. I see some meanness in the forums lately, and I hope that it will pass. It is important to note that I do not see meanness in this particular thread, which was stared to bring up an important point about copyrights and unfair use of Google Maps. The discussion of this topic has been respectful and positive.

So -- to end on a positive note: I love Waymarking because of the way it forces me to look carefully at my surroundings. Waymarking has trained me to see so much, and it's like a puzzle in my mind all the time when I am running about caching, wondering can I waymark that, and if so, in which category? How can I best tell the story of this special place? That's what I love -- and soon I will have 4000 waymarks created. I may get there in this batch of vacation photos I am processing now.

My 2 cents

Happy Waymarking

Edited August 20, 2015 by Benchmark Blasterz

1.1k · August 20, 2015

You can also just italicize for emphasis.

1.2k · August 21, 2015

You can also just italicize for emphasis.

Hard to do on an iPad but I will try

1.2k · August 21, 2015

You can also just italicize for emphasis.

Hard to do on an iPad but I will try

All those codes are wierd

1.1k · August 21, 2015

If it looks anything like the web page I see on my computer, all you have to do is select the words that you want italicized (or bold, etc.), and then click the appropriate "button" - B for bold, I for italics, U for underline, S for strike-through, and so on. Then you don't have to remember the codes (though they're pretty easy to remember anyway).

Even increase the font. Then you're really screamin'! :blink:

1.1k · August 21, 2015

BTW, I don't like to see meanness in the forums either. Haven't really noticed that much in Waymarking. But boy does the screen burn sometimes when I'm reading those geocaching forums.

NO, I found it first.

No you didn't you liar.

You're a

#$%^&*(!

Well you're the offspring of a

$%^&*()

Well you're breath smell like pig's feet.

And so on. Nothing like keeping personalities out of it. :anibad:

Seems like geocaching is much more competitive, which fosters some hard feelings at times.

Edited August 21, 2015 by MountainWoods

1.2k · August 21, 2015

BTW, I don't like to see meanness in the forums either. Haven't really noticed that much in Waymarking. But boy does the screen burn sometimes when I'm reading those geocaching forums.

NO, I found it first.

No you didn't you liar.

You're a
#$%^&*(!
Well you're the offspring of a
$%^&*()
Well you're breath smell like pig's feet.

And so on. Nothing like keeping personalities out of it.

Seems like geocaching is much more competitive, which fosters some hard feelings at times.

WOW -- I don't read those forums, so I missed all that. How sad -- this is all supposed to be fun. I love how much I learn from Waymarking, That's why I do it

5.7k · August 21, 2015

So, what about Pictures taken by Google Street View?

"Using Street View

I'd like to use Street View imagery in my project. Can I?

First, review the Google Maps and Earth Permissions Basics, which apply to all uses of our maps. Then continue with the guidance in this section.

Street View imagery may be incorporated into your project if 1) the imagery comes directly from the Google Maps API, Google Maps or Google Earth; or 2) the imagery is embedded or linked on your website using the HTML and URL provided on Google Maps. These solutions ensure that if Google edits or removes imagery in response to user requests, these changes will be reflected in your project as well.

If you have an academic and non-commercial request for Street View imagery that does not qualify under these guidelines, you may contact us at streetview-academic@google.com with the details of your project to request permission.

No other uses of Street View imagery are allowed. Note that some imagery in Street View is provided by entities other than Google, as indicated in its photo credits; in those instances permission must be obtained from the third party.

If your project meets the requirements above, no explicit permission is required for your project. We are unable to sign any letter or contract specifying that your project has our explicit permission."

Edited August 21, 2015 by Manville Possum Hunters

Pictures taken by Google Street View

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