Samuel Clemens Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Not sure I get the point with this as it is currently used, but this would be cool for a cache. Thumb Drives embedded in buildings Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Not sure I get the point with this as it is currently used, but this would be cool for a cache. Thumb Drives embedded in buildings There have been multiple threads on this. The consensus is it is not a great idea. Besides geocaches need a physical log to sign. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 From the cache listing guidelines: In the interest of file security, caches that require the installing or running of data and/or executables will likely not be published. The use of memory sticks and similar devices is not permitted. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 File security is an issue, as well as some jackass drilling/hammering holes in private property. Quote Link to comment
+T.D.M.22 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yup. It's cool alright. One of two things will happen. I use it on my computer and get a virus, and then a new computer from the CO, or I use my sharpie to sign it. Quote Link to comment
JASTA 11 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 When it gets smashed, or otherwise disappears, folks will take to signing the building. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I first became aware of dead drops on another cache site a few years ago. I think they are a very bad idea, defacing public property with their taintted files. I'm really glad that Groundspeak will not publish this type of cache. Geocachers have a bad enough image already. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Its really a bad idea. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Terrible idea that should have been stomped out by a quick read through the guidelines. Quote Link to comment
+doc73 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I would be most worried about getting a virus on my system from a random jump drive in the city. Too many AH's in the world anymore and even a simple, very damaging virus can be created by a 10 year old anymore. If I wanted to screw with people I'd just sign up for the free app, make an unverified bogus account and wreak havoc on them puppies. We have enough issues with a Tupperware in the woods. At least that's it just an annoyance. A virus can do some real damage. Quote Link to comment
Colorado Bear Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 This is such a bad idea on many levels, those at the top of my list are national and financial security. Quote Link to comment
+uxorious Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We need the address of the people who think it is a good idea. We can then go, drill holes in the side of their house, and install stuff we think is cool. Quote Link to comment
+Team Dredd Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 We need the address of the people who think it is a good idea. We can then go, drill holes in the side of their house, and install stuff we think is cool. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I first became aware of dead drops on another cache site a few years ago. I think they are a very bad idea, defacing public property with their taintted files. I'm really glad that Groundspeak will not publish this type of cache. Geocachers have a bad enough image already. The one I've found on another site was attached to fishing line, and tucked into the open ended tubular bracing of a picnic table in a public park. Who said they have to be cemented into the side of a building? The only thing on there were two text files, a "read me" file, and another which was the log. I thought it was pretty cool, actually. I have a funny feeling that 1)I'm in a distinct minority, and 2) They'd never be published here in a million years. Quote Link to comment
+wmpastor Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Masonry / Concrete Drilling Bosch brings constant innovation to concrete and masonry drilling. From inventing the industry standard SDS system to custom-manufactured carbide and diffusion bonding, the result is better performance and durability. And Bosch Bulldog™ Xtreme bits last 4X longer than any other bit when hitting rebar. Entry level costs can be quite low for affixing caches, including these cutting edge flash drives, to buildings (with permission, of course). You probably already have the hammer, and a masonry chisel is under $10. No need for a masonry drill bit unless you plan on placing a lot of caches in brick and stone walls. Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. (Relax, Cascade. Tell the people upstairs this is satire.) Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. Quote Link to comment
+Tassie_Boy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. Have a look at this then: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/08/usb-has-a-fundamental-security-flaw-that-you-cant-detect/ Plus you don't know if there is only 2 text files until it is connected to your computer and you've opened it up. Till you open it on your computer it's a bit of a Schrodinger's cat situation. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. Have a look at this then: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/08/usb-has-a-fundamental-security-flaw-that-you-cant-detect/ Plus you don't know if there is only 2 text files until it is connected to your computer and you've opened it up. Till you open it on your computer it's a bit of a Schrodinger's cat situation. As far as that link, I knew someone would come up with something. Actually, I'd be worried about these things being exposed to the elements and shorting out my device, more than I would some evil virus. Now talking about the public dead drops used for file sharing that contain Gigabytes worth of files. These were invented by a German National living in New York City in 2010. There is a video on their website of him installing the first 5 in NYC. The guy used existing cracks and holes in old buildings. In one of them, he even repairs another crack in the wall, and his partner says "good samaritan". If these things were nano caches, they'd be published on this website in well, a nanosecond. EDIT: P.S. I would think the people that use these things tend to be rather computer savvy, and know how to isolate, and get rid of viruses. I'm going to guess they all have Norton installed. Edited January 31, 2015 by Mr.Yuck Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. I've done a puzzle cache or two which used an image with a name such as puzzle.jpg that could be viewed as an image using any image viewing/editing software. If you changed the .jpg file extention from .jpg to .rar (or .zip) it could be opened with an archive extraction tool and you'd find that it contained other files (in one case it was another image of a QR code). A .txt file extension is necessarily indicative that the file only contains text. A few years ago there was a virus going around that was disseminated through flash drives. There were several locations set up around the university (staffed by people that had other things to do) with a linux box with some software that would detect and clean the virus, not only from flash drives but from any removable media. There were over 1700 instances of infected flash drives and even a few camera SD-cards that were found to contain the virus over 1 day and a half of testing. I also remember hearing a story a few years ago from someone from some national electronic security agency that talked about one of those digital picture frames that contained a virus. In that case, they found a digital picture frame produced by some place in China. When the usb cable for the device was plugged into computer it downloaded an application used to display digital photos on the device. The application included a virus that would scan the users system looking for sensitive data and send it to an email address in China. These digital picture frames were brand new, out of the box, purchased at a big box electronics store. Quote Link to comment
+J Grouchy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. I've done a puzzle cache or two which used an image with a name such as puzzle.jpg that could be viewed as an image using any image viewing/editing software. If you changed the .jpg file extention from .jpg to .rar (or .zip) it could be opened with an archive extraction tool and you'd find that it contained other files (in one case it was another image of a QR code). A .txt file extension is necessarily indicative that the file only contains text. A few years ago there was a virus going around that was disseminated through flash drives. There were several locations set up around the university (staffed by people that had other things to do) with a linux box with some software that would detect and clean the virus, not only from flash drives but from any removable media. There were over 1700 instances of infected flash drives and even a few camera SD-cards that were found to contain the virus over 1 day and a half of testing. I also remember hearing a story a few years ago from someone from some national electronic security agency that talked about one of those digital picture frames that contained a virus. In that case, they found a digital picture frame produced by some place in China. When the usb cable for the device was plugged into computer it downloaded an application used to display digital photos on the device. The application included a virus that would scan the users system looking for sensitive data and send it to an email address in China. These digital picture frames were brand new, out of the box, purchased at a big box electronics store. Just throwing this one out there... Why the Security of USB Is Fundamentally Broken Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Electronics is the wave of the future (hellloooo!), & once the old guard retires, you can expect caching to come into the 21st century. Personally, I'd love to know how a "virus", i.e. your typical browser hijacking virus that you'd get from going to your average porn site, for example, is going to make it's way onto a flash drive that contains only 2 .txt files, as outlined in the guidance for placing one of these caches on another site. I've done a puzzle cache or two which used an image with a name such as puzzle.jpg that could be viewed as an image using any image viewing/editing software. If you changed the .jpg file extention from .jpg to .rar (or .zip) it could be opened with an archive extraction tool and you'd find that it contained other files (in one case it was another image of a QR code). A .txt file extension is necessarily indicative that the file only contains text. A few years ago there was a virus going around that was disseminated through flash drives. There were several locations set up around the university (staffed by people that had other things to do) with a linux box with some software that would detect and clean the virus, not only from flash drives but from any removable media. There were over 1700 instances of infected flash drives and even a few camera SD-cards that were found to contain the virus over 1 day and a half of testing. I also remember hearing a story a few years ago from someone from some national electronic security agency that talked about one of those digital picture frames that contained a virus. In that case, they found a digital picture frame produced by some place in China. When the usb cable for the device was plugged into computer it downloaded an application used to display digital photos on the device. The application included a virus that would scan the users system looking for sensitive data and send it to an email address in China. These digital picture frames were brand new, out of the box, purchased at a big box electronics store. Just throwing this one out there... Why the Security of USB Is Fundamentally Broken I knew I'd never get away with saying "how am I going to get a virus from a clean stick that contains only 2 .txt files"? For the record, I have not used any of the dead drops listed on deaddrops.com. But I will say this; I have a teenager and a 20 year old, who was recently a teenager. And I am undefeated versus and and all viruses on any computer that they have ever thrown at me. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 These were invented by a German National living in New York City in 2010. There is a video on their website of him installing the first 5 in NYC. The guy used existing cracks and holes in old buildings. In one of them, he even repairs another crack in the wall, and his partner says "good samaritan". Sure, for the video. Feel good PR for the project, by changing the issue of private property to one of beautification. Funny that I couldn't find him asking permission from the building's owners anywhere. - That would have been a smart move for the project and issues down the road. For the rest of the copycats, who can't find their block's buildings in such poor condition, they'd have to add a hand sledge and a hammer drill bit to their tool kit... Quote Link to comment
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