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Etiquette regarding "Needs Archived"


bama.dell

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Hi y'all

 

I'm a newbie and I've bumped into a few local caches (e.g. GC2YVW7) that seem to require some review due to nearby construction. Several DNFs have been posted and even Needs Maintenance and the CO appears to be absent. I've searched the forum and reviewed the help text regarding Needs Maintenance and Needs Archived and the etiquette is a bit ambiguous. The help text suggests that the cache should have DNFs over a long period. That's fair enough, but it seems very clear in some instances that the entire area has been wiped out and the cache should be replaced or archived. In this situation, is it rude to post a Needs Archive to alert a reviewer after NM has gone unanswered?

 

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bama.dell

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Generally no, a situation such as construction would not warrant a needs archived. It would be disabled until such time the construction is finished. Of course with any cache the CO can decide to archive it, but it's not your choice, it's theirs.

 

Now if there's several DNF and a CO that's missing then a NA would be appropriate regardless sof construction

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Hi y'all

 

I'm a newbie and I've bumped into a few local caches (e.g. GC2YVW7) that seem to require some review due to nearby construction. Several DNFs have been posted and even Needs Maintenance and the CO appears to be absent. I've searched the forum and reviewed the help text regarding Needs Maintenance and Needs Archived and the etiquette is a bit ambiguous. The help text suggests that the cache should have DNFs over a long period. That's fair enough, but it seems very clear in some instances that the entire area has been wiped out and the cache should be replaced or archived. In this situation, is it rude to post a Needs Archive to alert a reviewer after NM has gone unanswered?

 

Thanks

bama.dell

In this situation, not if you're positive it's missing.

Possibly an inactive owner too, notifying the Reviewer may "fix" things.

- No opinion about the "few" others on your list... :)

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Since you're a newbie, I suggest you just forget about it. There's no great urgency in getting things sorted out, so it's reasonable to let a more experience cacher be the one to say it's time since they'd know most of the tricks that might be used. Admittedly, it seems unlikely any tricks were used in the case of GC2YVW7, but my general advice is that if you have to ask whether to post an NA, then you probably should leave it to someone that knows more.

 

But to answer your actual question, the text in the guidelines is aimed at preventing unwarranted NAs with general advice that leads to a good answer in a wide range of cases. If an experienced cacher can see with their own eyes that the situation is obvious, then they can ignore all that and post an NA based purely on their personal knowledge of the situation. In this case, for example, even though the cache seems to clearly be missing, an experienced cacher would realize that a couple weeks is not enough time for a CO to respond to an NM, so I'd wait a month or two before concluding that the CO isn't going react to sort out the problem, then I'd post an NA at that time. Meanwhile, the NMs stand to warn anyone that there's likely a problem.

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...... In this situation, is it rude to post a Needs Archive to alert a reviewer after NM has gone unanswered?

 

I would say no it isn't rude. It's never rude to post NM, or then post a NA if there is no resolution. The CO gets plenty of notice to sort out problems, or at least indicate they are planning on sorting it out before a reviewer will archive a cache.

If the NM is unanswered after a month, I post a NA.

 

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There you go bama.del. You have the basic idea right here. I think you can figure out how to handle the situation yourself. No need to pass it along to another cacher.

 

If your unsure about anything just ask otherwise use your common sense and best judgment.

 

As long as the cache location is safe you have time.

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