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June 21, 2015

(Please share ideas and add your variants. I'm going to publish this in our local community after a while)

1. "TFTC". Nothing else. The most respected way of logging. It's short and polite and truly international. You even don't need to know what "TFTC" means.

2. "It was easy". This kind of log is especially welcomed by cache owners who invested much into their hides and by cache seekers who failed to find this cache.

3. "#2814". It's cool to expose your statistics. Yes, it is already shown next to your log. We know. But it's obviously not sufficient. It's important to demonstrate that this cache was #2814, not 2815 or 2816. Your biographers care.

4. "Had no pen so photolog". Have you heard about paperless geocaching? That's it. No need for pens or pencils anymore. "BYOP"? It's to celebrate your find. "Buy yourself one pint".

5. Add spoilers. People will thank you for making their hobby more comfortable.

6. Don't miss your chance to improve caches. "The difficulty level is 2 but it must be 2.5". "The coordinates are inaccurate, 6 meters off". "The attribute "Not suitable for people with hedgehogs at night" is missing".

7. Demand quick actions from cache owners. "The pencil wasn't sharpened. FIX THIS ASAP!!!"

8. Once anything is wrong (as with this poor pencil) don't hesitate adding NM or (even better) NA log. If you don't do it the problem may stay unnoticed.

9. If you failed to find some cache just add smiley and go on. Geocaching is not about numbers.

10. Cheating? Well, if you believe it's cheating - don't publish any logs at all. You will probably return to this place next year. Or in your next life.

11. DNF? Think twice. One DNF log will probably spoil your reputation forever. To avoid this risk you better explain that it was the owner's fault. Wrong coordinates, missing attributes, too dark, slippery, headache, kids, snakes, tsunami, anything.

12. Geocaching is multi-national so write your logs in any language you like. Hindi is as good in Iceland as Chinese in Nigeria. English is for loosers, Google Translate is for all.

4.5k · June 21, 2015

This is some great advice!

You forgot one though (goes along with #9):

13. This cache was not fair! It was up in a tree (in the water, top of mountain, etc,,,) and because i am entitled, i am claiming it. TFTC!

4.4k · June 21, 2015

On our great adventure across your country [many details omitted], of all the caches we found, this was by far the most recent.

13.7k · June 21, 2015

:laughing:

After finally giving up replacing pencils, pens, and sharpeners in caches that only went into others pockets, just this Spring we got a "no pencil in cache" log.

Most logs afterwards mentioned no pen and one even said he did maintenance for us by putting a few pencils in.

Sheesh...

1.1k · June 21, 2015

(Please share ideas and add your variants. I'm going to publish this in our local community after a while)

1. "TFTC". Nothing else. The most respected way of logging. It's short and polite and truly international. You even don't need to know what "TFTC" means. (Second Most Disrespectful way to log, blank log is First)

2. "It was easy". This kind of log is especially welcomed by cache owners who invested much into their hides and by cache seekers who failed to find this cache. (No problem with this)

3. "#2814". It's cool to expose your statistics. Yes, it is already shown next to your log. We know. But it's obviously not sufficient. It's important to demonstrate that this cache was #2814, not 2815 or 2816. Your biographers care. (Please wait for me to bow down)

4. "Had no pen so photolog". Have you heard about paperless geocaching? That's it. No need for pens or pencils anymore. "BYOP"? It's to celebrate your find. "Buy yourself one pint". (No problem but ask first)

5. Add spoilers. People will thank you for making their hobby more comfortable.(DELETE LOG)

6. Don't miss your chance to improve caches. "The difficulty level is 2 but it must be 2.5". "The coordinates are inaccurate, 6 meters off". "The attribute "Not suitable for people with hedgehogs at night" is missing".("Thanks for the information will think about it")

7. Demand quick actions from cache owners. "The pencil wasn't sharpened. FIX THIS ASAP!!!"(Ignore)

8. Once anything is wrong (as with this poor pencil) don't hesitate adding NM or (even better) NA log. If you don't do it the problem may stay unnoticed.(I like to know when there's a problem)

9. If you failed to find some cache just add smiley and go on. Geocaching is not about numbers.(Delete Log)

10. Cheating? Well, if you believe it's cheating - don't publish any logs at all. You will probably return to this place next year. Or in your next life.(See #9)

11. DNF? Think twice. One DNF log will probably spoil your reputation forever. To avoid this risk you better explain that it was the owner's fault. Wrong coordinates, missing attributes, too dark, slippery, headache, kids, snakes, tsunami, anything.(Like DNF's both mine and others)

12. Geocaching is multi-national so write your logs in any language you like. Hindi is as good in Iceland as Chinese in Nigeria. English is for loosers, Google Translate is for all.Don't care

My opinions are in italics Edited June 21, 2015 by captnemo

June 21, 2015

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning! :laughing:

June 21, 2015

I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

7.5k · June 21, 2015

I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

+1.

Otherwise it's a good list that gets to the point by using humour.

June 21, 2015

#8 also is a false target for the irony. NM should really be used far more and the anxiety associated with NA already is enough.

19k · June 21, 2015

June 22, 2015

Mudfrog, thanks. I will add your idea to the list. It's so close to what we have here in Russia with the national variant of the game where people used to go sightseeing rather then to search for caches.

Viajero Perdido, I actually wanted to add one more point to the list - large portions of cut-and-pasted text. It's usually not about any specific cache or geocaching experience but just general bla-bla-bla "I visited your country and the weather was mostly fine but not always". However we discussed such logs once here in this forum and I was told (by serious tutors ) that such logs were just perfect.

cerberus1, the only hope is that the guy who did that maintenance for you will feel himself much better and probably will help when it's really needed.

knowschad, thanks

7.4k · June 22, 2015

I'd love to get a log in Hindi or Icelandic or some other language I rarely hear/see.

June 22, 2015

Great!

If you allow me, I will translate it into portuguese for "domestic consumption".

Let me suggest one last...

#13 - "Needs Maintenance!". Just that! Always place a Needs Maintenance or Needs Archive without any prior Found or DNF. Better yet... do it without even being on the location of the hide.

Hummm... thinking twice, I also hate when a cache is OK for us to log Found, but not OK for the next geocacher who search for.

Edited June 22, 2015 by Kelux

2.8k · June 22, 2015

I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

200' is one thing. But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

Edited June 22, 2015 by BBWolf+3Pigs

June 22, 2015

200' is one thing. But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

Well, yeah, that would be pretty stupid.

June 22, 2015

I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

+1.

Otherwise it's a good list that gets to the point by using humour.

Another +1. Ratings are very important. Too low terrain ratings can cause accidents because of underestimation.

7.4k · June 22, 2015

200' is one thing. But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

Well, yeah, that would be pretty stupid.

What's really stupid is when they relocate the cache to match their coordinates.

6.8k · June 22, 2015

I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Edited June 22, 2015 by cezanne

7.4k · June 22, 2015

I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Why is it ridiculous? It stings and leaves nasty welts on people's skin.

3.3k · June 22, 2015

I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

I mentioned in one log that I got within 50 feet or less of GZ and left because I couldn't find a safe way to GZ through dense poison ivy. The CO made a remark with an "edge" soon afterward. :rolleyes:

3.3k · June 22, 2015

After finally giving up replacing pencils, pens, and sharpeners in caches that only went into others pockets, just this Spring we got a "no pencil in cache" log.

Most logs afterwards mentioned no pen and one even said he did maintenance for us by putting a few pencils in.

Sheesh...

Hope you thanked him!

6.8k · June 22, 2015

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Why is it ridiculous? It stings and leaves nasty welts on people's skin.

It's a bit like telling people that there are trees in the forest. I also would not set the poisonous attribute if say fly agarics could grow in the forest where a cache is hidden.

I do not know any piece of nature where no plants are around that are at least mildly poisonous. I think it suffices to attract attention to the really dangerous ones.

Contact to stinging nettles is not too pleasant but one gets reminded to be more careful next time and/or to come with long sleeves and long trousers when caching in a non urban setting.

7.4k · June 22, 2015

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Why is it ridiculous? It stings and leaves nasty welts on people's skin.

It's a bit like telling people that there are trees in the forest. I also would not set the poisonous attribute if say fly agarics could grow in the forest where a cache is hidden.

I do not know any piece of nature where no plants are around that are at least mildly poisonous. I think it suffices to attract attention to the really dangerous ones.

Contact to stinging nettles is not too pleasant but one gets reminded to be more careful next time and/or to come with long sleeves and long trousers when caching in a non urban setting.

So we should never use the attribute, because it's ridiculous and people should learn to be careful. Noted.

7.8k · June 22, 2015

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Why is it ridiculous? It stings and leaves nasty welts on people's skin.

It's a bit like telling people that there are trees in the forest. I also would not set the poisonous attribute if say fly agarics could grow in the forest where a cache is hidden.

I do not know any piece of nature where no plants are around that are at least mildly poisonous. I think it suffices to attract attention to the really dangerous ones.

Contact to stinging nettles is not too pleasant but one gets reminded to be more careful next time and/or to come with long sleeves and long trousers when caching in a non urban setting.

So we should never use the attribute, because it's ridiculous and people should learn to be careful. Noted.

No, that isn't it at all. It's ridiculous because nobody ever caches while travelling; only locals find geocaches. Further, all locals are fully aware of what plants to stay away from.

...or at least, that's what I derive from cezanne's posts. It certainly doesn't match behaviour in my country, though, so I will set that attribute if I ever hide a cache in an area that contains stinging nettles.

15.3k · June 22, 2015

No, that isn't it at all. It's ridiculous because nobody ever caches while travelling; only locals find geocaches. Further, all locals are fully aware of what plants to stay away from.

...or at least, that's what I derive from cezanne's posts. It certainly doesn't match behaviour in my country, though, so I will set that attribute if I ever hide a cache in an area that contains stinging nettles.

Yeah, I'm very familiar with Western Poison Oak, having grown up in California. But when I was in Massachusetts a few years ago, I wasn't familiar with Poison Ivy, or with any of their other plants.

June 22, 2015

Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

6.8k · June 22, 2015

...or at least, that's what I derive from cezanne's posts. It certainly doesn't match behaviour in my country, though, so I will set that attribute if I ever hide a cache in an area that contains stinging nettles.

First, I was not talking about caches hidden in a field of stinging nettles (that's not a nice cache location anyhow).

Second, if someone never has encountered stinging nettles and has a problem with them he/she will certainly encounter that problem much before arriving at a cache.

Third, I have had contact to stinging nettles several hundreds of times in my life, both before I started geocaching and after my start. I do not see any danger associated with them.

I'm not aware of a single cache that has the poisonous plants attribute set due to a possible encounter with stinging nettles. They are just nearly everywhere.

Edited June 22, 2015 by cezanne

June 22, 2015

But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

I saw a complaint about not publishing an additional waypoint for parking. The hiding place was about 5 meters from a parking lot.

If you allow me, I will translate it into portuguese for "domestic consumption"

Sure, why not. Just let us complete and polish it

#13 - "Needs Maintenance!". Just that! Always place a Needs Maintenance or Needs Archive

This is similar to #8, no?

I'm also thinking about situation when someone asks me (CO) for help and gets a hint or two but still fails to find the cache. Then he blames me in his DNF log for not being helpful. I've run into such people several times.

Edited June 22, 2015 by -CJ-

June 22, 2015

This is similar to #8, no?

Not quite... my point is when somebody logs a NM (or NA) instead of a DNF. The shame of not finding a cache doesn't extend to logging a log that shows easily that the cache... was not Found.

polish

Great... and czech, romanian, slovenian too... irony all over!

Edited June 22, 2015 by Kelux

19k · June 22, 2015

I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

Actually, setting that attribute for stinging nettles as I know them (maybe there are different ones in your area which are dangerous) seems pretty ridiculous to me. Unlike poison ivy I would not even mention stinging nettles in the cache description. They are all around here and everyone knows how they look like.

Exactly. A skin irritant, but hardly poisonous. They are actually extremely nutritious when cooked. Maybe we need a wild foods attribute.

19k · June 22, 2015

Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

We need a "Must Read Attributes" attribute.

4.6k · June 22, 2015

Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

You might not want to speak for others <_<

I for one take a look at attributes most of the time and filter on them in GSAK.

7.8k · June 22, 2015

I'm not aware of a single cache that has the poisonous plants attribute set due to a possible encounter with stinging nettles. They are just nearly everywhere.

While that may be the case in your area, it isn't necessarily the same everywhere. There are patches of stinging nettles in my region, but the region isn't completely covered with them. Around here, identifying the few locations where you may encounter them can be very useful, especially considering we get a lot of tourists. I certainly wouldn't want a visitor to the area to learn the hard way about stinging nettles at one of my caches.

Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

Sorry, I'll stop looking at the attributes now. I didn't realize everyone had agreed not to look at them.

I've heard people say here in the forums that nobody reads descriptions anymore either, so I'll have to try to stop doing that as well, and also remove the descriptions from my caches.

June 22, 2015

I'm not aware of a single cache that has the poisonous plants attribute set due to a possible encounter with stinging nettles. They are just nearly everywhere.

That depends greatly on your area. I grew up in southern England where they are positively monstrous and literally everywhere. I also grew up in Virginia where I never saw them. I had assumed we didn't have them in the US, until I did a cache here in Colorado the other day and was shocked to see a couple growing nearby.

When I mentioned this to some friends, all of them said, "What are stinging nettles?" If you took your little kid to that cache and it came home with stinging welts on its arm, you wouldn't be happy if you'd walked in blind with no warning.

7.4k · June 23, 2015

I'm not aware of a single cache that has the poisonous plants attribute set due to a possible encounter with stinging nettles. They are just nearly everywhere.

That depends greatly on your area. I grew up in southern England where they are positively monstrous and literally everywhere. I also grew up in Virginia where I never saw them. I had assumed we didn't have them in the US, until I did a cache here in Colorado the other day and was shocked to see a couple growing nearby.

When I mentioned this to some friends, all of them said, "What are stinging nettles?" If you took your little kid to that cache and it came home with stinging welts on its arm, you wouldn't be happy if you'd walked in blind with no warning.

They grow in patches here but they aren't all over the place. I can spot poison ivy a mile away but I often don't spot stinging nettles until I feel them. They blend in. If I knew they were growing near my cache I would risk being *ridiculous* and use the attribute.

Edited June 23, 2015 by narcissa

June 23, 2015

Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

We need a "Must Read Attributes" attribute.

+1

6.8k · June 23, 2015

They grow in patches here but they aren't all over the place. I can spot poison ivy a mile away but I often don't spot stinging nettles until I feel them. They blend in. If I knew they were growing near my cache I would risk being *ridiculous* and use the attribute.

Maybe it is not ridiculous at your place - here it is. Moreover, for many caches around here (and all of mine) the setting "near the cache" does not make sense. My caches have all more than one stage. Moreover often for the caches around here there is no canonical way to get to the container(s) and from stage to stage. A warning (whether via attributes or text) makes sense if the stinging nettles are really close to a container or when one has to cross larger areas with stinging nettles (that even can happen on official hiking trails that are hardly used), but otherwise almost every cache would end up with the attribute except the very urban ones and then there would not exist any warning about caches where poisonous plants are a real issue.

2.7k · June 23, 2015

I'd love to get a log in Hindi or Icelandic or some other language I rarely hear/see.

How about Klingon?

4.6k · June 23, 2015

How about Klingon?

That's only used for mysteries.

15.3k · June 23, 2015

How about Klingon?

vaj pup.

7.5k · June 23, 2015

1434985306[/url]' post='5516147']
1434918032[/url]' post='5515945']
I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

200' is one thing. But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

Sometimes they're not complaints. Just factual information that may help the next finder. These days with apps and crappy new garmins (I had a lemon of a 62s) it does help to read if someone else was off and by how much.

7.4k · June 23, 2015

I'd love to get a log in Hindi or Icelandic or some other language I rarely hear/see.

How about Klingon?

That would be cool too. Never understood the weird anger about non-English logs.

June 23, 2015

@logs

Not a D3 using the hint.

Don't like writing (long) logs ... [Long story about everything except this cache] ...

Not possible without PAF. (when it's certainly possible)

Cache is missing. (when it's certainly there)

Logbook full. (when another 200 entries are possible)

Thanks for the easy puzzle. (for a long hiking multi)

Only for the final we had to cross the creek to the [insert remarkable feature here] .. (when this is the big surpise of a hiking cache)

Signed logbook on site sitting at [insert well known feature here] .. (when cache is a D5 Unknown)

@icons

There is a difference whether you have in mind only caches that are near the next parking lot (attracting people with no knowledge about plants/anmials/natural hazards that might be there) or caches that require longer hikes where people come prepared and you don't know about their route choice anyway.

For the first it might make sense to mention even stinging nettles in the description, although stinging nettles are not dangerous, only unpleasant. In my country you can encounter stinging nettles almost everywhere, also in urban areas, I can't imagine meeting someone living here without any stinging nettle experience.

I will always remember an incident with a doctor from Jordan, who tasted from beautiful flowers on a journey near the highest mountain of my country. This beautiful flowers turned out to be Monk's hood (Aconitum napellus), the most poisonous plant here in central Europe, you can die also from only picking leaves. It was used for thousands of years to kill people and animals. This tourist survived thanks to the quick intervention of the busdriver and the emergency medical service.

Now (and also in my childhood) every child here has to learn about the most toxic plants in primary school (not the rare or nearly exterminated) as most of them can also be met in gardens or on meadows. That includes (among others) plants that are dangerous when eating fruits/leaves/parts of the plant and/or absorbing the poison through the skin like lily-of-the-valley (Convallaria majalis), foxglove (Digitalis purpurea), Monk's hood (Aconitum napellus), Deadly Nightshade (Atropa belladonna) and other Solanaceae, castor oil plant (Ricinus communis), golden chain (Laburnum), autumn crocus (Colchicum autumnale). And Giant Hogweed (Heracleum mantegazzianum) because it can cause severe skin inflammations.

When thinking of using the icon poisonous plants in my country the only plant that comes to my mind is Giant Hogweed (Heracleum mantegazzianum) because while concentrating on finding a cache not everybody remembers that you must not touch it.

Poison ivy and Poison Sumach are not known in my part of the world. When caching abroad it is even more important to be informed about plants and animals that might cause a problem and to be very cautious concerning unknown plants and animals. And don't touch, pick or eat anything unknown you can't identifiy as belonging to 'harmless' plant families. Wear long trousers and long sleeves in overgrown areas, wear solid shoes.

Concerning animals I would mention wasps' nests or bee-hives near a cache that might be dangerous for persons suffering from an allergy. And recommend not going somewhere while the Oak processionary is active. And poisonous snakes in affected areas.

Using the icon 'Watch for Livestock' seems more important to me as in my country every year a few hikers (mostly in connection with dogs) die after incidents with grazing animals. Also using the icon 'Hunting' as sad to say it is not only animals that get shot in hunting areas 'the hunter doesn't look and shoots'.

Edited June 23, 2015 by AnnaMoritz

7.5k · June 23, 2015

1435009265[/url]' post='5516247']
1435005126[/url]' post='5516224']
Attributes are overrated. Nobody reads them anyway...

You might not want to speak for others

I for one take a look at attributes most of the time and filter on them in GSAK.

+1. I use them extensively when running a PQ.

Edited June 23, 2015 by L0ne.R

7.4k · June 23, 2015

Everyone knows there are wasps and what a nest looks like. Mentioning it would be ridiculous.

June 23, 2015

Everyone knows there are wasps and what a nest looks like. Mentioning it would be ridiculous.

There are caches here where you become aware of the wasp's nest only when it's too late because you can't see it before.

4.6k · June 23, 2015

Everyone knows there are wasps and what a nest looks like. Mentioning it would be ridiculous.

Not always. All was quiet when I was looking for a cache until I stepped on a piece of wood and 100's of wasps flew up. Got a few stings before I was before I got far enough for them to leave me alone.

BTW: I logged a DNF

2.8k · June 23, 2015

1434985306[/url]' post='5516147']
1434918032[/url]' post='5515945']
I disagree with #6. If there is a problem with the cache, the owner and those looking for it need to know. I've run into a few caches that were some distance from their published coords (over 200' in one case). I've also done a couple near poison ivy and stinging nettles that should have the "poisonous plants" attribute.

200' is one thing. But I've seen complaints that they were 10' off. Really?!

Sometimes they're not complaints. Just factual information that may help the next finder. These days with apps and crappy new garmins (I had a lemon of a 62s) it does help to read if someone else was off and by how much.

10' error is noise. Especially when you consider the hider's unit could be off by 10' and the finder's unit can be off by as much as 10'. It should be expected that the container could be 10' from where your receiver says it is.

I think there are people that just don't know how the GPS system works and what the limitations are.

June 23, 2015

AnnaMoritz, thanks for your input.

@logs

Not a D3 using the hint.

I've also heard this from cache cops.

Don't like writing (long) logs ... [Long story about everything except this cache] ...

It's so rare nowadays that people write unique long logs! Mostly it's just a copy-pasted piece of text repeated 40 times.

Not possible without PAF. (when it's certainly possible)

What's PAF? A guitar pickup?

Cache is missing. (when it's certainly there)

Yes, this is one of the most popular logs. Last week I checked several of my caches because of people complaining that "it is obviously not there". In fact, all caches were OK.

Logbook full. (when another 200 entries are possible)

Once I saw a complaint about full logbook and when I checked the hide it appeared that only one side of the logsheet (it was a micro cache) was full. The second side was blank. The guy just seemed to forget that paper usually had two sides.

Thanks for the easy puzzle. (for a long hiking multi)

Failed to get your point here. You mean that some people aren't accurate and use wrong logs they prepared well in advance?

Only for the final we had to cross the creek to the [insert remarkable feature here] .. (when this is the big surpise of a hiking cache)
Signed logbook on site sitting at [insert well known feature here] .. (when cache is a D5 Unknown)

Spoilers.

Edited June 23, 2015 by -CJ-

7.4k · June 23, 2015

Everyone knows there are wasps and what a nest looks like. Mentioning it would be ridiculous.

Not always. All was quiet when I was looking for a cache until I stepped on a piece of wood and 100's of wasps flew up. Got a few stings before I was before I got far enough for them to leave me alone.

BTW: I logged a DNF

I was being facetious.

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