Earth Cache

[VeniVidiVici3]

I'm trying to set up an Earth Cache, which as we all know isn't really anything physically left at a site. The reviewer is telling me I need written approval for this, even though it is public land which anybody can walk, bike, hike etc on. They don't tell me where to get this approval, and like I said it isn't even any'thing'. Does anyone have some input on this? It's very frustrating.

 

I understand there may have been problems with misplaced caches in the past, but I'm not even leaving anything anywhere.

[Keystone]

There are no hidden caches associated with your account. What is the GC Code for the page you set up for discussion with the reviewer?

[VeniVidiVici3]

There are no hidden caches associated with your account. What is the GC Code for the page you set up for discussion with the reviewer?

 

I am posing this question for someone else who didn't think it would bring any useful comments.

[Keystone]

Sorry, I was misled by your use of first person singular.

 

Since I cannot see the cache listing, I cannot offer guidance on whom to contact for permission.

 

Permission is a hallmark of the Earthcaching program. You will find that, by working with the land manager, you will help make a good name for geocachers and also benefit from the land manager's knowledge of the property. A Park Ranger or Environmental Specialist would likely be eager to contribute to the geology lesson that your friend is trying to convey.

[+T.D.M.22]

I'm trying to set up an Earth Cache, which as we all know isn't really anything physically left at a site. The reviewer is telling me I need written approval for this, even though it is public land which anybody can walk, bike, hike etc on. They don't tell me where to get this approval, and like I said it isn't even any'thing'. Does anyone have some input on this? It's very frustrating.

 

I understand there may have been problems with misplaced caches in the past, but I'm not even leaving anything anywhere.

 

You, or rather the cache owner do t have to leave anything.

People still have to visit the location- trespassing is still trespassing, it doesn't matter why you do it. Remission is required for each cache, and there is no one person to give it to you. Here I might be able to get permission from a fish and game officer, but in another city it may have to go through city council. Or it may be federal land. Without knowing where the cache is, nobody can help you. It's a bit like asking you to tell me how old the church down the street from my house is, you can't because you don't know where I am.

[+Gitchee-Gummee]

"Public land" is still administered by somebody. You would need to contact the administrator of that particular "public land".

 

Such falls into categories of:

Parks (National, State, municipal or even private);

National Forest (U.S.) falls into purview of the USFS;

State Forest (U.S.), usually the Dept. of Natural Resources of that state;

Provincial lands (Canada), each province has a Ministry akin to the Dept. of Natural Resources;

(U.S.) Bureau of Land Management [bLM] administers much land in the western states.

Not familiar with other countries, so I defer comment to those more aware....

 

Inasmuch as we don't know where you live or are trying to create an Earthcache, it's a little difficult in directing you.

 

Just because the land is "public" doesn't necessarily mean that you can set up a cache (of any kind) without the permission of the administrator or steward.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Gitchee-Gummee

[+Ladybug Kids]

The EarthCache guidelines may be found on the GSA website here: http://community.geosociety.org/EarthCache/guidelines/guidelines2/

 

Guideline #4 addresses required Land Manager approval.

[+Touchstone]

Link for reference:

 

Regional Geocaching Policies Wiki

 

There might be some useful information at the above page.

 

Good luck!

[+coachstahly]

City owned? Administered by the local parks department? State owned? What level of government owns and maintains it?

 

Whoever owns and maintains the public land should be the first attempt at contact. Once you've placed a call and found out who to contact, contact them with a phone call (preferred) initially or send an email (still a valid way to do it, but might take a bit longer). This post provides a great template to get you started and I'm assuming that the originator of this letter wouldn't have too much of an issue if you used it.

[+hzoi]

Of the 17 earthcaches we've hidden, four edit: five did not require permission. Three were on highway right of way easements, and the third is in the middle of a fjord, intended to be logged from ships.

 

For all the rest, they are on park property of some kind or another, and I worked with city, state, or federal park staff to get permission, as appropriate.

 

Letting us know where you are looking can help us help you. Or the earthcaching forum has good tips on how to get permission for putting an EC on public land, if you (or your friend) just want to poke around there.

Edited December 21, 2014 by hzoi