photo requirements

[+rayven1972]

I recently placed a geocache and it requires people to basically go to coordinates find the geocahe container in the container is a log book travel bug hotel and a token box. you take the token to a place you find a specific object and take a picture with the token in hand.

the hard part is no one person can have the same object in the photo so the geocache gets harder after awhile.

 

After a few days and a few geocachers (who loved the idea) the reviewer said I had to basically take it down it does not work as a geocache in this form as far as the guidelines for posting go can anyone help me on this? I am really trying to keep the spirit and the photo requirement alive and also make the reviewer happy. I can also send the geocache GC code if it helps.

[+GeoLog81]

You can encourage people to take some photos, but it can't be logging condition. You can always log physical cache online if you've signed the logbook.

 

Those what you're looking for are available as Safari caches on the other platform.

[+dprovan]

The solution is actually pretty simple: you have to change it from a requirement to a request. As long as they can just sign the log without doing the photo part, you'll be fine.

 

Now you have to decide for yourself if that's acceptable to you. The description suggests you might be wedded to this approach, but you need to ask yourself whether your goal was to force people to do this whether they want to or not, or did you just want to provide people an interesting challenge that will be rewarding in its own right?

 

To be honest, I have no idea how this got past review to begin with, since this kind of thing has been absolutely forbidden for a while now. Not to be rude, but did you change the description after it was published?

[+rayven1972]

No It was published right away and then I was told a week later "Oh I was reminded of a rule"

but I am getting the hint that I need to revamp this whole thing. I disabled it until I can come up with a new plan but this is the GC code if anyone wants to throw some more suggestions my way! GC5QRHJ

[Keystone]

You need to remove steps 5 through 7 or change them so that the photo activity is optional. From the listing guidelines:

 

For physical caches all logging requirements beyond finding the cache and signing the log are considered additional logging requirements (ALRs) and must be optional. Cache finders can choose whether or not to attempt or accomplish such tasks. This is a guideline change that applies to all logs written since April 4, 2009.

 

The only geocaches with mandatory photo requirements are grandfathered webcam caches and (some) virtual caches. New caches of those types were discontinued in November 2005.

[+Touchstone]

I would also vote change the photo to an optional request. If it's a fun request, you'll likely have folks playing along with it. If it's too laborious or annoying, you'll find people ignoring the request. Should be a great learning opportunity, and illustrate why the Guidelines were changed in the first place.

[Andronicus]

You could turn it into a multi, so that finders had to visit the location anyway. The photo would still need to be optional, but if the finders are there anyway, they would likely follow the suggestion.

[Keystone]

Yes, but "the location" for the photo is a locationless -- find a unique example that nobody else has logged. It is fun now, while there are nearby available examples. But at some point, someone would either log a duplicate photo or forget/be unable to upload a photo, the CO deletes their log, and people start writing to Geocaching HQ and their local Reviewer asking for someone to referee the boxing match.

 

Wow, I just flashed back to 2009. It wasn't pretty.