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If those were 30cal instead of the huge cans, I'd seriously look at a bid, cos I know lots of folks who'd like some 'regular' ammo cans at a reasonable price. Locals who've bought at previous auctions had no problems reselling the cans (esp. 30cal), and they are nearly impossible to find at a good price in stores anymore.

 

There is an upcoming auction for 30cal cans on the site, but it's 1476 of them - a bit too many for my budget. :lol:

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If those were 30cal instead of the huge cans, I'd seriously look at a bid, cos I know lots of folks who'd like some 'regular' ammo cans at a reasonable price. Locals who've bought at previous auctions had no problems reselling the cans (esp. 30cal), and they are nearly impossible to find at a good price in stores anymore.

 

There is an upcoming auction for 30cal cans on the site, but it's 1476 of them - a bit too many for my budget. :lol:

Come on - stating bid is only $150 bucks! :)

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If those were 30cal instead of the huge cans, I'd seriously look at a bid, cos I know lots of folks who'd like some 'regular' ammo cans at a reasonable price. Locals who've bought at previous auctions had no problems reselling the cans (esp. 30cal), and they are nearly impossible to find at a good price in stores anymore.

 

There is an upcoming auction for 30cal cans on the site, but it's 1476 of them - a bit too many for my budget. :lol:

Come on - stating bid is only $150 bucks! :)

If they were 30 cal I would be on them like white on rice.

 

Edit: I did go back and look and perused some of the other lots. Looks like there are some 30 cal and 7.62 lots available, big numbers though, 320 and 500 cans. If folks have an interest and want to go together as a group I would be interested in joining in. I got a pickup, but don't think I could haul all of them in one shot but with a uhaul probably.

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If those were 30cal instead of the huge cans, I'd seriously look at a bid, cos I know lots of folks who'd like some 'regular' ammo cans at a reasonable price. Locals who've bought at previous auctions had no problems reselling the cans (esp. 30cal), and they are nearly impossible to find at a good price in stores anymore.

 

There is an upcoming auction for 30cal cans on the site, but it's 1476 of them - a bit too many for my budget. :lol:

Come on - stating bid is only $150 bucks! :)

If they were 30 cal I would be on them like white on rice.

 

Edit: I did go back and look and perused some of the other lots. Looks like there are some 30 cal and 7.62 lots available, big numbers though, 320 and 500 cans. If folks have an interest and want to go together as a group I would be interested in joining in. I got a pickup, but don't think I could haul all of them in one shot but with a uhaul probably.

I looked through all the Ft Lewis auctions, and only saw one lot of 30 cals (4"x10"x6"), and there were 1476 of them. That's a bit too many for my budget and storage space. Where did you see smaller lots?

 

I would be willing to buy a lot of 300-500 cans myself, as others have done in the past, and I know interested cachers would help me haul them and I'd have no trubba reselling them. But 1476 cans would probably be $4000 or so, plus I don't have a place to store that many. I'm also not interested in the larger sizes (50 cal, etc.), they are harder to sell and hide.

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Looks like there are some 30 cal and 7.62 lots available, big numbers though, 320 and 500 cans. If folks have an interest and want to go together as a group I would be interested in joining in. I got a pickup, but don't think I could haul all of them in one shot but with a uhaul probably.

 

I too would be interested in going in with a group AND have a pick up that could haul some. If anyone is keeping tabs. please add me to the list nd contact me if it looks like it's going to become a reality...

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If those were 30cal instead of the huge cans, I'd seriously look at a bid, cos I know lots of folks who'd like some 'regular' ammo cans at a reasonable price. Locals who've bought at previous auctions had no problems reselling the cans (esp. 30cal), and they are nearly impossible to find at a good price in stores anymore.

 

There is an upcoming auction for 30cal cans on the site, but it's 1476 of them - a bit too many for my budget. :lol:

Come on - stating bid is only $150 bucks! :)

If they were 30 cal I would be on them like white on rice.

 

Edit: I did go back and look and perused some of the other lots. Looks like there are some 30 cal and 7.62 lots available, big numbers though, 320 and 500 cans. If folks have an interest and want to go together as a group I would be interested in joining in. I got a pickup, but don't think I could haul all of them in one shot but with a uhaul probably.

I looked through all the Ft Lewis auctions, and only saw one lot of 30 cals (4"x10"x6"), and there were 1476 of them. That's a bit too many for my budget and storage space. Where did you see smaller lots?

 

I would be willing to buy a lot of 300-500 cans myself, as others have done in the past, and I know interested cachers would help me haul them and I'd have no trubba reselling them. But 1476 cans would probably be $4000 or so, plus I don't have a place to store that many. I'm also not interested in the larger sizes (50 cal, etc.), they are harder to sell and hide.

 

Your right, I had a brain fart.

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Maybe some of the bigger geocaching organizations would be willing to get together for a buy and then distribute them - possibly as a fund-raiser for their groups - to NW cachers everywhere. Still at very reasonable prices.

 

I bet loads of folks would buy a few if the prices were good.

Yes, WSGA looked at it, that was my first thought. But again, we don't have $4000 or so for the current lot of 1476, or anywhere to store that many (seriously, that's a LOT of cans, 2-3 times as many as cachers have bought in previous auctions). If other caching orgs in Oregon, Idaho, or BC want to partner with us (say, 500 cans each), and can pay and pick up theirs in the time frame required by Ft Lewis if we win the auction, I'm game. Each org would need to be willing to pony up to $2000 depending on the auction prices and how many orgs take part.

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Maybe some of the bigger geocaching organizations would be willing to get together for a buy and then distribute them - possibly as a fund-raiser for their groups - to NW cachers everywhere. Still at very reasonable prices.

 

I bet loads of folks would buy a few if the prices were good.

Yes, WSGA looked at it, that was my first thought. But again, we don't have $4000 or so for the current lot of 1476, or anywhere to store that many (seriously, that's a LOT of cans, 2-3 times as many as cachers have bought in previous auctions). If other caching orgs in Oregon, Idaho, or BC want to partner with us (say, 500 cans each), and can pay and pick up theirs in the time frame required by Ft Lewis if we win the auction, I'm game. Each org would need to be willing to pony up to $2000 depending on the auction prices and how many orgs take part.

 

I'm happy to pass the word along to GEOregon with a link to this thread. :)

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Maybe some of the bigger geocaching organizations would be willing to get together for a buy and then distribute them - possibly as a fund-raiser for their groups - to NW cachers everywhere. Still at very reasonable prices.

 

I bet loads of folks would buy a few if the prices were good.

Yes, WSGA looked at it, that was my first thought. But again, we don't have $4000 or so for the current lot of 1476, or anywhere to store that many (seriously, that's a LOT of cans, 2-3 times as many as cachers have bought in previous auctions). If other caching orgs in Oregon, Idaho, or BC want to partner with us (say, 500 cans each), and can pay and pick up theirs in the time frame required by Ft Lewis if we win the auction, I'm game. Each org would need to be willing to pony up to $2000 depending on the auction prices and how many orgs take part.

We have plenty of storage space as needed... Including a storage locker in Issaquah that's 20 feet by 40 feet by 20 feet tall. That part isn't an issue. The real issues is determining what the price point the clubs are willing to go to per can.

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Note: I queried the seller and they said there may be smaller lots of 30 cals available in future, if this auction doesn't pan out.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if by next summer there are more cans any size, includig the 30 cal ones) than anyone can deal with what with the troop pull out of Iraq by the end of this year...

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Note: I queried the seller and they said there may be smaller lots of 30 cals available in future, if this auction doesn't pan out.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if by next summer there are more cans any size, includig the 30 cal ones) than anyone can deal with what with the troop pull out of Iraq by the end of this year...

I would think that would be fewer cans. Be shooting those guns a lot less and using a lot less bullets.

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Note: I queried the seller and they said there may be smaller lots of 30 cals available in future, if this auction doesn't pan out.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if by next summer there are more cans any size, includig the 30 cal ones) than anyone can deal with what with the troop pull out of Iraq by the end of this year...

I would think that would be fewer cans. Be shooting those guns a lot less and using a lot less bullets.

I think he meant there should be more cans being sold off as surplus, as to your point, they will be using a lot less bullets. :P

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Actually, I dont think the ammo being fired overseas has anything to do with the ammo can surplus. The cost to bring them back would be way more than they are worth. I know that when I bought the 1800 50 cal cans a few years back the people who staff the ammo depot told me that all of the empty cans were from the firing range.

 

One of the questions I asked was why not take the empty ammo cans and re-spray paint the new lot numbers on them and reuse them. They said it was too expensive. I noticed that on this current auction they arent showing the Acquired cost. In previous auctions the military was paying around $17 per can.

 

When I bought the 50's I went ahead and fronted the money ($7500) knowing it would all come back to me with some profit.

 

When I was tracking them last year, one lot of 1040 cans was $4700 out the door. The 150 dollar starting price is always that way.

 

Another thing I learned the hard way was this auction isnt like E-bay. Even though it says that it ends at 2PM our time, thats not entirely correct. If someone places a bid within 15 minutes of 2PM, then there is 15 or 20 minutes added to the auction. So, if someone bid at 1:59PM the auction wouldnt be over for another 15-20 minutes (I dont remember whether its 15 or 20 minutes)

 

Also, for the longest time, I would track all of the auctions and I would bid up to a certain point. It seems like the last 18 months the price has gotten out of hand. When the final price for a 30 is 5 dollars or more, by the time you add in 10% fee to Govt Liquidators plus 9% sales tax, that 5 dollar can is now close to 6 dollars. Then figure in the cost of going to get them you end up having to charge $7 or higher to make it worth it.

 

It still brings a smile to my face when I recall my double car garage, wall to wall with 16 pallets of 50 cal cans. It only took a year to get them all sold.

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When I first started buying the 30 cal cans way back, I found that I could get around 500 of them in a 6' by 12' u-haul trailer. If you pulled that trailer with a full sized pick-up you could get about another 200 in the bed of the truck. Keep in mind that if you get so many that you need to rent a U-haul truck, you will end up having to take the cans off the pallets individually to bedload them in the truck.

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Note: I queried the seller and they said there may be smaller lots of 30 cals available in future, if this auction doesn't pan out.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if by next summer there are more cans any size, includig the 30 cal ones) than anyone can deal with what with the troop pull out of Iraq by the end of this year...

I would think that would be fewer cans. Be shooting those guns a lot less and using a lot less bullets.

I think he meant there should be more cans being sold off as surplus, as to your point, they will be using a lot less bullets. :P

Yes, with troops coming back and concievable less need for ammo cans, it would seem that surplusing the extra inventory would flood the ammo can "market".

 

But if what BN&Z says is true, maybe they'll just leae all of the ones they don't need over there...

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Heres what we need to figure out. What is the top dollar PER CAN that everyone wants to pay. Plus, what is the total amount of cans that can be guarenteed to be bought and paid for. I dont have a problem with making the purchase. However, I need to be able to pay for my time and for the fronting the money. If we know the bottom line as to what people are willing to pay, then we know the upper limit as to what we can go to as far as bidding. I really dont think these 30 cal's can be had for less than $7-8 per can. Is that what everyone wants to pay?

 

4500 1,476 $3.05 119% $3.63 $5,355.00

5000 1,476 $3.39 119% $4.03 $5,950.00

5500 1,476 $3.73 119% $4.43 $6,545.00

6000 1,476 $4.07 119% $4.84 $7,140.00

6500 1,476 $4.40 119% $5.24 $7,735.00

7000 1,476 $4.74 119% $5.64 $8,330.00

7500 1,476 $5.08 119% $6.05 $8,925.00

 

If you look at the table above, the first column represents the bid, second column is the total cans. The 3rd column would be the price per can, the 4th is the price per can after the 10% site charge and the 9% sales tax. The last column is the final price out the door. So, as you can see, a bid of 7500 dollars would bring the cost of the cans to $6.05. Add the cost of renting a truck, and fuel, and you need to charge "x" amount. Like I said, if I can see that I have firm commitments for a certain amount of cans at a specific price, I will make the purchase. Also, from my experience with two prior purchases from Ft Lewis, there will be a 1 to 2% of the cans that are too damaged to sell.

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I looked at my bookmarks for ammo cans. The prices run from $7-$10. The shipping locations are North Carolina, Texas, Missouri, Montana and unknown location. So the net is much higher. For $8 a can I would pop for 10-12, approaching $10 I probably would buy fewer. But only if they are 7.62/.30 cal. These things are getting expensive.

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I looked at my bookmarks for ammo cans. The prices run from $7-$10. The shipping locations are North Carolina, Texas, Missouri, Montana and unknown location. So the net is much higher. For $8 a can I would pop for 10-12, approaching $10 I probably would buy fewer. But only if they are 7.62/.30 cal. These things are getting expensive.

 

I would be interested in buying some 30's and I know RDR would be as well. Probably a few other people. I have a truck (with canopy on or off) so I would be happy to help haul.

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This auction starts on Wednesday and ends on Friday. Is anyone going to commit to any cans? It would be nice to have a number in mind as to how many of these would move right off the bat. Like I mentioned, I am willing to make the purchase, but it would be nice to have a fair amount of them already spoken for.

 

I wouldn't mind getting a dozen cans out of this. I was looking at another lot of the large plastic containers and thought (jokingly, mind you) "OOOOoooo....Large cache hides!"

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7000 1,476 $4.74 119% $5.64 $8,330.00

 

The next bid would need to be 6942. So you can see that the cans are $5.64 a piece. It has been my experience that the hard bidding doesnt normally start until close to the end. Based on that, these cans are going ot be pretty costly.

 

Yeah, 10 bucks is starting to look cheap. Good Grief Charlie Brown, why are they in such a demand? Is steel getting to be the price of gold? All I seem to find these days is gladware so it can't be just geocaching.

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I have to wonder who besides geocachers would want that many ammo boxes??? :blink:

 

It's probably two groups of cachers bidding against each other! If you look around this forum you'll probably see another thread started by another group of cachers who are bidding on the same pile of ammo boxes.

 

They are probably also wondering why these things are bidding so high.

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7000 1,476 $4.74 119% $5.64 $8,330.00

 

The next bid would need to be 6942. So you can see that the cans are $5.64 a piece. It has been my experience that the hard bidding doesnt normally start until close to the end. Based on that, these cans are going ot be pretty costly.

 

Yeah, 10 bucks is starting to look cheap. Good Grief Charlie Brown, why are they in such a demand? Is steel getting to be the price of gold? All I seem to find these days is gladware so it can't be just geocaching.

 

At 10 bucks a pop, I'll take 10. If it goes above that my commitment will go down.

 

As to who and why, army suplus stores and e-bay auctioneers can get $15, $16, or $17 for these things. Even if the price goes up to $13 a can, they can still buy them at that and make a profit, we are All Ferengi after all...

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I have to wonder who besides geocachers would want that many ammo boxes??? :blink:

 

It's probably two groups of cachers bidding against each other! If you look around this forum you'll probably see another thread started by another group of cachers who are bidding on the same pile of ammo boxes.

 

They are probably also wondering why these things are bidding so high.

Well, it's not me or WSGA, we were happy to let the experienced bidder, BNZ, do the deed. B)

 

I would think it's retailers buying for resale. So you can pay $15 for your next one at Sir-Plus.

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Its probably retailers who have stores OR they frequent the Washington Arms Collectors shows and sell them there. When I had the 1800 cans, I think I sold 75% of them to shooters.

 

I really dont think it wold be 2 cachers bidding against one another. I know most of the cachers in the northwest who would want 100+ cans. But since I'm not getting any firm commitments from anyone, I'm going to step aside and watch this one. Heck, If I knew I could get $10 a piece, now THAT would be a different story all together. Someone will buy them and charge that price, but I personally dont think 30 cals are worth that much.

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Its probably retailers who have stores OR they frequent the Washington Arms Collectors shows and sell them there. When I had the 1800 cans, I think I sold 75% of them to shooters.

 

I really dont think it wold be 2 cachers bidding against one another. I know most of the cachers in the northwest who would want 100+ cans. But since I'm not getting any firm commitments from anyone, I'm going to step aside and watch this one. Heck, If I knew I could get $10 a piece, now THAT would be a different story all together. Someone will buy them and charge that price, but I personally dont think 30 cals are worth that much.

What do you consider a 'firm commitment'? I see several folks saying they'd buy them, and I think you'd get more takers at up to $10/can - only a few of us have posted to this thread, but the interest is substantial (I've talked to a lot of folks). Over that price, it likely would drop off quite a bit, tho. You'd also get folks from nearby states/provinces hoping to buy lots from you, I suspect. So bummer if you're dropping out, but understand that it's a big financial and storage commitment. Maybe there will be smaller lots available later.

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7000 1,476 $4.74 119% $5.64 $8,330.00

 

The next bid would need to be 6942. So you can see that the cans are $5.64 a piece. It has been my experience that the hard bidding doesnt normally start until close to the end. Based on that, these cans are going ot be pretty costly.

Auction just closed, and the winning bid was $6942.

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The price that these closed at was a fairly good price. As the clock ticked down I pondered, should I or shouldnt I bid. What decided it for me was that I didnt have commitments for nearly enough to risk the cash. Plus, I wasnt sure if people would be willing to pay as much as 10 for a 30 cal can. From what I have seen at Bear Arms and other outlets, $10 would be a competative price. What I would like to do is have ANYONE that is interested in cans email me. I will build a list with name and amount wanted. When an auction comes along, I will mass mail that list, get a yea or nay at a prticular price and bid accordingly. Hopefully some lots of less than 1000 cans will come up.

 

So if you want cans please email me!!!

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