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20 people with more than 50K finds? Amazing. I looked for a tribute cache a few months ago that celebrated the FL couple who had just become the second account to hit 25K; that was 5 years ago.

 

I remember when I started in 2007 I found out that Alamogul (then, Team Alamo) had around 25K finds and thinking, I'll never find that many..I'm not going to even try. Seven years later I have just over 1200 finds and am thinking I might not ever get to 2000 finds...I'm not going to even try.

 

 

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Just wondering who has the most finds? Is there a way of looking at overall stats or anything? I know a guy with over 8K and compared to my "massive" 150 thats pretty impressive?

geordiell

You can find him here

 

Let's not neglect Bobcam from this discussion. Started caching in 2007, five years after Alamogul, who started in 2002, and is still working a full 40 hour week and yet is "only" 16K behind your friend. Bobcam has an average 35 finds per day since beginning compared to 25 per day for Alamogul.

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I don't know how bobcam or anyone else with a full time job can manage to get so many finds. (Not intended as question of honesty, but simply an expression of curiosity.)

 

He starts early and finishes late. I cached with Bobcam for a couple of years in his early (pre-power trail) days and I almost always met him somewhere after he had been out for an hour or two already, and I'd generally leave before he was finished (we always took two cars, just for that reason). Even times when I thought that he was really finished, he would always stop for "just one or two more" on his way home. But he is anything but in a hurry... that surprises a lot of people. He will stop and chat with people he runs into, and I have actually had to grab his arm and drag him away from DNFs. He is very efficient, and plans each trip beforehand.

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I just cannot fathom how some folks get such high numbers!

I mean ... don't they stop to eat and sleep? :blink:

Sometimes I forget to eat but I do sleep. When I do cache with #1 we do stop to eat. And even I am amazed we leave our area to travel over 50 miles to go to an event, eat, and cache a mix of types of caches spread out (no powertrail) and come home after finding 100+ caches. So imagine how we can find so many when we are actually trying to find a lot of caches.

I had a newbie ask me how we do it when they said they could barely find 5 in a day. One thing for sure and I know many will agree is when you read the hint, logs or see the GZ site you almost know right away what you are looking for. That is called Geosense. Or you follow what is called a GeoTrail when cachers unknowingly create a trail after many before have visited the site.

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I don't know how bobcam or anyone else with a full time job can manage to get so many finds. (Not intended as question of honesty, but simply an expression of curiosity.)

 

He starts early and finishes late. I cached with Bobcam for a couple of years in his early (pre-power trail) days and I almost always met him somewhere after he had been out for an hour or two already, and I'd generally leave before he was finished (we always took two cars, just for that reason). Even times when I thought that he was really finished, he would always stop for "just one or two more" on his way home. But he is anything but in a hurry... that surprises a lot of people. He will stop and chat with people he runs into, and I have actually had to grab his arm and drag him away from DNFs. He is very efficient, and plans each trip beforehand.

That is like #1. I only cache with him a few times now because I wanted to remember and enjoy the caches. Top cachers its all about the numbers but like anything there is always ones that compete and ones who just have fun.

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I don't know how bobcam or anyone else with a full time job can manage to get so many finds. (Not intended as question of honesty, but simply an expression of curiosity.)

 

He starts early and finishes late. I cached with Bobcam for a couple of years in his early (pre-power trail) days and I almost always met him somewhere after he had been out for an hour or two already, and I'd generally leave before he was finished (we always took two cars, just for that reason). Even times when I thought that he was really finished, he would always stop for "just one or two more" on his way home. But he is anything but in a hurry... that surprises a lot of people. He will stop and chat with people he runs into, and I have actually had to grab his arm and drag him away from DNFs. He is very efficient, and plans each trip beforehand.

That is like #1. I only cache with him a few times now because I wanted to remember and enjoy the caches. Top cachers its all about the numbers but like anything there is always ones that compete and ones who just have fun.

 

You've cached with #1, too? Funny... Bobcam never mentioned you. :lol:

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I don't know how bobcam or anyone else with a full time job can manage to get so many finds. (Not intended as question of honesty, but simply an expression of curiosity.)

 

He starts early and finishes late. I cached with Bobcam for a couple of years in his early (pre-power trail) days and I almost always met him somewhere after he had been out for an hour or two already, and I'd generally leave before he was finished (we always took two cars, just for that reason). Even times when I thought that he was really finished, he would always stop for "just one or two more" on his way home. But he is anything but in a hurry... that surprises a lot of people. He will stop and chat with people he runs into, and I have actually had to grab his arm and drag him away from DNFs. He is very efficient, and plans each trip beforehand.

That is like #1. I only cache with him a few times now because I wanted to remember and enjoy the caches. Top cachers its all about the numbers but like anything there is always ones that compete and ones who just have fun.

 

You've cached with #1, too? Funny... Bobcam never mentioned you. :lol:

How do you think I got the numbers I have? I cached with him from 2007 to 2008 when I moved to WA and then less after that when I moved back to CA. I was at the Yuma event but only cached one day with him and recently. You might say I was one of his GeoWives.

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I have lots of stories. Like when I went with him to the Groundspeak HQ while him and 2 of his other friends was going after the States challenge. I only joined them for 3 states and was left in WA. 7563476a-c55a-4d43-b691-c10efd82f01d.jpg

Did an 18 mile hike with him which both us went through elevation gains and losses and we both felt like dying near the end and I told him I wasn't going to carry his dead body out of there. Yes he does long day hikes, and ones I haven't even tried.

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Thanks for that link. I don't recall seeing that site previously.

 

Although the OP was interested in the cacher with the most finds, I found the stats about most "hides" to be very interesting. :o

 

It's so funny to read how people are encouraged to find a certain number of caches before planting them. :lol:

 

 

B.

 

You're certainly welcome :)

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If one were to get so caught up in find numbers and trying to stay in the top area of the list...one might be more tempted to do things like "throwdowns" and "inactive cacher container replacement" in your efforts to stay or remain at the top. Wouldn't be fun for me, in my opinion... :ph34r:

 

I have never cached with any of the other top dogs aside from the one that I've already mentioned, and I haven't cached with him for years. But I can say that during the time that I did cache with him, I never saw the sort of thing you're talking about. I think that is more likely amongst the wanna-bes that really don't have what it takes. For what little I know, your speculation is simply that. Now, I have heard things about various top-end cachers, but I never know how seriously to take those claims. Everybody wants to shoot down the fast-gun.

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Well stated. Let's keep this thread positive -- the OP simply inquired about who has found the most caches.

 

I don't track leaderboards very often, so I enjoyed seeing how Bobcat has significantly narrowed the gap between #1 and #2 since last I checked.

I tried to get Alamogul to stand down but he's a race horse.

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Well this caused a good little discussion??!?!And I think if we all added our finds together and went out for a solid week we wouldnt these "race leaders" I know its not a race just a term lol..

Very interesting now another question to follow on from my opening question?

Take for example the top player on this list is there a way of looking at his map of Smilies to see where he?she caches the most or is it just the Stats bar on the profile page?

Sorry Im fairly new only started last October but really enjoying Caching!!

Cheers again

geordiell

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

 

I'm not sure what you are looking at.

 

1.) Alamogul hidden 854

2.) Bobcam hidden 665

3.) mondou2 hidden 1423

 

Clicking the "Caches hidden" column header sorts the names by number of caches hidden. That was the interesting stats I mentioned earlier.

 

http://www.zinnware.com/HighAdv/Geocaching/most_caches_found.php?OrderBy=hides&Ordering=DESC&Limit=3500

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751

 

B.

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

 

I'm not sure what you are looking at.

 

1.) Alamogul hidden 854

2.) Bobcam hidden 665

3.) mondou2 hidden 1423

 

Clicking the "Caches hidden" column header sorts the names by number of caches hidden. That was the interesting stats I mentioned earlier.

 

http://www.zinnware....DESC&Limit=3500

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 (unknown)

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 (unknown)

 

B.

 

Just defending local honor. :rolleyes:

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Yeah hes hidden 854 but found 120,000 roughly!! And looking well glancing briefly through theres a few with 0 or very little, just interesting I gyuess!! and over 1K finds in a day?WOW reckon they travelled some miles that day!! or would that be a case of cahing a whole weekend and then logging them all on a Monday maybe??

Also is there a time limit on Logging online? Say for example I go out and find 10 today but have no 3G on my phone and forget to send them tonight when I get home with wifi is it still "a find" if I log them tomorrow?

Cheers

geordiell

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Also is there a time limit on Logging online? Say for example I go out and find 10 today but have no 3G on my phone and forget to send them tonight when I get home with wifi is it still "a find" if I log them tomorrow?

Cheers

geordiell

No problem really... BUT, logging from a phone records the SEND date as a log date. No way to edit the date through the app. You gotta do that online.

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

 

I'm not sure what you are looking at.

 

1.) Alamogul hidden 854

2.) Bobcam hidden 665

3.) mondou2 hidden 1423

 

Clicking the "Caches hidden" column header sorts the names by number of caches hidden. That was the interesting stats I mentioned earlier.

 

http://www.zinnware....DESC&Limit=3500

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 (unknown)

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 (unknown)

 

B.

 

Just defending local honor. :rolleyes:

King Boreas does at least have one Unknown cache. It's in our area.

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

 

I'm not sure what you are looking at.

 

1.) Alamogul hidden 854

2.) Bobcam hidden 665

3.) mondou2 hidden 1423

 

Clicking the "Caches hidden" column header sorts the names by number of caches hidden. That was the interesting stats I mentioned earlier.

 

http://www.zinnware....DESC&Limit=3500

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 (unknown)

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 (unknown)

 

B.

 

Just defending local honor. :rolleyes:

King Boreas does at least have one Unknown cache. It's in our area.

 

Oh, sorry... I used the wrong word. He has a number of Unknown caches. I just meant hidden in a traditional manner... not power trails for the most part. Although the first short "power trail" that I ever did was hidden by none other. All I'm trying to say is that Room104 and Team SageBrushers got there by hiding thousands of film canisters, primarily for power cachers. I was sad to the see KB fall to #2 (and now #3)

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Sorry Just noticed aswell a lot of these "top cachers" dont seem to have hidden any or hidden very little? Is this "normal behaviour"? I would like to hide loads but as I live in between to Cities in England and in Germany its a bit tricky for my Cache Maintenace I do have a few friends who dont mind keeping an eye on them for me but Id prefer to keep them close :)

geordiell

 

I'm not sure what you are looking at.

 

1.) Alamogul hidden 854

2.) Bobcam hidden 665

3.) mondou2 hidden 1423

 

Clicking the "Caches hidden" column header sorts the names by number of caches hidden. That was the interesting stats I mentioned earlier.

 

http://www.zinnware....DESC&Limit=3500

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 (unknown)

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 (unknown)

 

B.

 

Just defending local honor. :rolleyes:

King Boreas does at least have one Unknown cache. It's in our area.

 

Oh, sorry... I used the wrong word. He has a number of Unknown caches. I just meant hidden in a traditional manner... not power trails for the most part. Although the first short "power trail" that I ever did was hidden by none other. All I'm trying to say is that Room104 and Team SageBrushers got there by hiding thousands of film canisters, primarily for power cachers. I was sad to the see KB fall to #2 (and now #3)

Oh ok. I'm glad I don't own a powertrail

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Most folks who do lots of caches, log the date found as the actual date they found the cache not the date they log them.

As to long distances, a cache every 10th of a mile puts 1000 caches in 100 miles. Not much distance for that number of finds in a day.

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Who cares? I work hard to get to the numbers but it should not be the focus of the game. Play and have fun. See the old ones because the most of the new stuff is useless and numbers generated. Take your kids to stuff that is pre-2006. Ignore the power trals. They are tedious and have very little value in terms of substance.

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I never realized there were so many option to see the ranking lists. Interesting to see that only 323k cachers have over 200 finds, considering there are over 6 million cachers. The drop-off in users is pretty darn steep. Those would be some interesting stats, but I'm sure much harder to procure.

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 Power trails

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 Traditionals

Just adding to knowschad's notes about some of the top hiders. Added context for #4 and #5.

 

What I've learned is that some accounts are created for the sole purpose of creating powertrails or regular hides.

-- For example, #4 are the owners of the ET Highway powertrail. So they have a lot of hides, but very few finds (all of which are either Event or Lab caches). They have individual account names (on either side of the "&") and individually have quite a few finds...11k and 8k.

-- For non-PT's is #5, which are about a dozen cachers that place hides using the 'league' account, but log their finds using their individual accounts.

 

I would love to have huge numbers, but only if that was because I didn't have to work and had free time to travel a lot and find caches in interesting/distant locations. Although, even then, I'm not sure I could get the kind of counts the top finders have.

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If you are all about numbers, you are going to miss out on what's around you. It reminds me of when I go mountain biking with certain friends, they are all about how fast you can get through the trail. I myself like to enjoy what's around me and get off my bike and explore when i find something interesting. That one of the aspects of geocaching that attracted me in the first place. I find it funny that virtual caches were banned years ago but a cache in a micro container with no pencil or swag thrown in a bush every quarter mile is acceptable. Location, location, location is what makes a cache attractive to me. I guess the game has involved into a numbers game for most of the geocaching population. As long as that trend continues numbers will be what the game is all about.

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I never realized there were so many option to see the ranking lists. Interesting to see that only 323k cachers have over 200 finds, considering there are over 6 million cachers. The drop-off in users is pretty darn steep. Those would be some interesting stats, but I'm sure much harder to procure.

 

1.) Team SageBrushers caches found 37 caches hidden 8058 Power trails

2.) room104 caches found 3566 caches hidden 7691 Power trails

3.) King Boreas caches found 3789 caches hidden 4518 Traditionals

4.) Clay4&whtwolfden caches found 23 caches hidden 4201 Power trails

5.) League of Id Cachers caches found 0 caches hidden 3751 Traditionals

Just adding to knowschad's notes about some of the top hiders. Added context for #4 and #5.

 

What I've learned is that some accounts are created for the sole purpose of creating powertrails or regular hides.

-- For example, #4 are the owners of the ET Highway powertrail. So they have a lot of hides, but very few finds (all of which are either Event or Lab caches). They have individual account names (on either side of the "&") and individually have quite a few finds...11k and 8k.

-- For non-PT's is #5, which are about a dozen cachers that place hides using the 'league' account, but log their finds using their individual accounts.

 

I would love to have huge numbers, but only if that was because I didn't have to work and had free time to travel a lot and find caches in interesting/distant locations. Although, even then, I'm not sure I could get the kind of counts the top finders have.

Some of these are sock puppets names so they can list the powertrails under one account. Did you check their separate accounts? And many under 200 finders maybe children, newbies, pets, Cachers who left the game, passed away, casual or quality cachers.

 

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Some prefer to hide over finding.

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If you are all about numbers, you are going to miss out on what's around you. It reminds me of when I go mountain biking with certain friends, they are all about how fast you can get through the trail. I myself like to enjoy what's around me and get off my bike and explore when i find something interesting. That one of the aspects of geocaching that attracted me in the first place. I find it funny that virtual caches were banned years ago but a cache in a micro container with no pencil or swag thrown in a bush every quarter mile is acceptable. Location, location, location is what makes a cache attractive to me. I guess the game has involved into a numbers game for most of the geocaching population. As long as that trend continues numbers will be what the game is all about.

Here, here! Well said! Caching used to be about the journey, the location, occasionally cool swag in the "treasure chest.". It's still that to me (and MANY I'm sure!) but seriously how do you do 1000 caches in a day and really get to enjoy it other than seeing a high number at the end of the day? I don't get Power Trails at all. It's too bad there can't be two games...one for great hunting experiences and one for crazy challenges and high numbers that appeal to competitive gamers. They seem like two different games. I only found 4 caches the other day but I got my first cache at a State Line and saw my first Solar Farm! No big deal to most but I loved the locations.

 

I still can't fathom working full time and finding 100s of caches a day. I don't understand how one can have long streaks and never get sick or have a car break down (unless you save finds to log when you need them). Much I don't understand about the new ways of Geocaching and Prem Membership advantage so I'll just stick to what I know. But congrats on all those impressive stats! Certainly takes dedication and time.

It wonder what the numbers were like pre PTs and Challenge Caches. Can you look up data by dates?

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I still can't fathom working full time and finding 100s of caches a day. I don't understand how one can have long streaks and never get sick or have a car break down (unless you save finds to log when you need them). Much I don't understand about the new ways of Geocaching and Prem Membership advantage so I'll just stick to what I know. But congrats on all those impressive stats! Certainly takes dedication and time.

It wonder what the numbers were like pre PTs and Challenge Caches. Can you look up data by dates?

 

Personally, I agree with you. On the other hand, I also can't fathom why some people chose to play golf or eat tofu.

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I don't understand how one can have long streaks and never get sick or have a car break down (unless you save finds to log when you need them).
I maintained my streak for only 366 days, but it helps to save a few "nearest to home" caches for those difficult days. It also helps to live in a very cache-dense area, and to find more distant caches whenever you happen to travel outside your normal blast radius. And there were a few times when I'd find a cache very late at night, and then wait until after midnight to find a nearby cache for the next day.

 

But yes, you can maintain a streak without faking the date of your online logs.

 

It wonder what the numbers were like pre PTs and Challenge Caches. Can you look up data by dates?
I haven't looked up any stats, but I know people who planned a numbers run of more than 100 caches back when the guidelines still admonished "don't go cache crazy and hide a cache every 600 feet just because you can." And there were "record runs" discussed in the forums back then with more than 300 caches found in a 24-hour period.

 

Those numbers runs took a lot more planning back then, back when you couldn't rely on hundreds of fungible film canisters placed every 528ft/161m along a rural highway.

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I still don't really understand PTs. How does one find a trail?? Who maintains it? Who plans it?

 

Ha! I've never heard of a "blast radius." Obviously I don't have one. Lol

 

I wonder at what point GS stopped admonishing don't place a cache just because you can. I do remember that.

 

I'm sorry...I'm just musing about these things. I can't imagine being able to find caches 366 days in a row! Life stuff gets in the way. That's amazing.

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