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I'm fairly new to this. I have found that I get more joy from hiding caches than finding them. I have 5 hidden now, I have an idea for another one. Problem is, i've had a difficult time with my reviewer on previous caches and locations. Can anyone give me some incite on a potential location for a geocache like this one so that i wont hit a dead end with my reviewer when i decide to try to get it published?

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/59l4m0mk4iv699a/AADXQMh8bD29s-xkav4AyLsCa?dl=0

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The black pipe in the ground is going to be a problem.

 

But the faucet cache is doable if you zip tie it to one of the fence posts in such a way that it looks like it is a real pipe coming out of the ground but supported by the post. But if anyone bothered to check, they could confirm you have not driven the pipe into the ground.

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I didn't see anything when I clicked the link, just a blank page.

 

But what kind of a "difficult time" are you having? What kinds of "dead ends" are you encountering?

 

Based on the subject line's reference to "where", I'm going to assume that you're running into problems with the 528ft (161m) saturation guideline. If so, then the following Help Center article may be useful: Checking for Geocache Saturation.

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The black pipe in the ground is going to be a problem.

 

But the faucet cache is doable if you zip tie it to one of the fence posts in such a way that it looks like it is a real pipe coming out of the ground but supported by the post. But if anyone bothered to check, they could confirm you have not driven the pipe into the ground.

Here'a a thread that might be helpful. At its best, it's a place where we can discuss cache designs that violate the guidelines in some way, and then discuss ways to adapt the design so that it complies with the guidelines so it can be published.
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Agree with GeoBain.

As it is now, few Reviewers would approve either (by your pics) "pipe" caches as they are now (that digging thing).

Have you read Geocaching 101, the Guidelines, or the Help Center?

 

Upside-down with a small elbow, strapped alongside a small tree, or wedged in the crack of a boulder could be interesting.

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I didn't see anything when I clicked the link, just a blank page.

It's a faucet on top of a pipe that appears to be stuck into the ground, and the cache itself is a micro-sized object screwed onto the spout. It would definitely be questioned based on the "No buried caches" guideline, so it's probably a good thing the OP is proactively trying to deal with any potential issues.

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Another way I've seen pipe caches (and sprinkler caches) done is to mount them on a piece of plywood, with dirt and other camouflage glued to the plywood. The plywood sits on top of the ground, and the pipe/sprinkler sticks up, perpendicular to the plywood and perpendicular to the ground. But no digging is required.

 

There's still the issue that such caches can encourage people to tamper with real sprinklers, faucets, etc. If you're going to create such a cache, then I recommend that it be possible to confirm that it is indeed such a camouflaged cache BEFORE anything is disassembled. As a cache seeker, I like to be able to hold the entire thing in my hand before I open anything.

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I thought about weighing the bottom down with a concrete slab. So now that the issue of not to dig has been addressed, next question is location? Public park? Dead end street? Edge of the woods?

 

Go for humour. I'd love to find a cache in a faucet where there really is no reason for a faucet to be there. In a lake or pond. In the middle of a forest. On top of a mountain.

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How are the fake sprinkler heads that are halfway in the ground legit?

They're not, unless the hole existed before they put the sprinkler head in it.

 

Keep in mind that reviewers can only approve listings based on what they're told. If someone pushes a fake sprinkler head into the ground but doesn't tell the reviewer what type of hide it is, it can get published. However, when the reviewer finds out that a CO has left out important information such as that they violated the guidelines to place a cache, the cache will be archived, and chances are good that the reviewer will give that CO extra scrutiny on future cache listings.

 

In other words:

1. Follow the guidelines when placing caches.

2. Currently published caches are not precedents for future ones. What appears to be an approved cache placement method may not be.

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If someone pushes a fake sprinkler head into the ground but doesn't tell the reviewer what type of hide it is, it can get published.

After finding a series of PET preforms that are are nearly all hidden by being pushed into the dirt, I asked our reviewer whether this was a guideline violation. The response:

 

You may have noticed that the guidelines regarding buried caches have changed over the years. At one time, no cache which "broke the ground" was permitted. Digging a hole is still not permitted. However, now caching methods which require pushing a small container like a DNA-tube or a preform a short distance into the ground are considered on a case-by-case basis, taking into consideration the area and the impact of the hide.

 

I would have thought this went against the "no hole" guideline.

 

If one has to dig or create a hole in the ground when placing or finding a geocache, it is not allowed.

 

Apparently there is room for flexibility.

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