Lab caches

[+LamanHenk]

Hi everyone,

 

I had logged six lab caches at March 14th 2015 but did not notice them in my profile "your logs" overview.

In that way there is no opportunity to deliver any evidence used for challenge caches which are asking for the type of caches.

I for myself like to use these six lab cache founds for such a challenge cache but the lab cache founds are not represented in the "your logs" overview. I do notice the statistic overview with the number of found lab caches which is correct but does not give any found date, or cache name information like the "your logs" overview.

 

I really appreciate the presence of logged lab caches in the "your logs" overview!

Is there any solution to deliver evidence for challenge caches as I have mentioned??

[+palmetto]

I'm not quite sure what information you seek.

Here's the Help Center article on Lab Caches in Statistics http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=558

[Keystone]

Challenge caches based on lab cache finds cannot be published, so double-check the requirements of the challenge cache where you were hoping to use your lab caches in order to qualify.

[Pup Patrol]

Challenge caches based on lab cache finds cannot be published, so double-check the requirements of the challenge cache where you were hoping to use your lab caches in order to qualify.

 

The Help Center article needs updating to reflect that?

 

Help Center → Hiding a Geocache → Review Process: Hiding a Geocache

1.19. Challenge Geocaches

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=206

 

A challenge geocache requires that geocachers meet a geocaching-related qualification or series of tasks before the challenge cache can be logged. Waymarking, Benchmarking, and Wherigo-related tasks also qualify.

 

Lab caches are "geocaching-related", no?

 

Help Center → Finding a Geocache → Logging a Geocache

4.9. Lab Cache FAQs

http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=510

 

What is a Lab Cache?

 

A Lab Cache is an experimental and extremely rare geocache type. These geocaches are a way for us to innovate and test new ideas to make geocaching even better.

 

How does this Lab Cache work?

 

These mostly work the same as regular geocaches: navigate to the location, find the cache and sign the logbook. However, these differ in that you must use the find code in order to mark the geocache as found.

 

B.

[+lamoracke]

Challenge caches based on lab cache finds cannot be published, so double-check the requirements of the challenge cache where you were hoping to use your lab caches in order to qualify.

 

I understand that you can't indicate which lab caches you qualify for as a requirement as that type of information is viewable only to the cache finder, but would it be against the rules to have a challenge cache saying you need 25 lab caches? The old challenges had some challenge caches that required say 50 challenges.

 

Boy that last sentence would be quite the challenge for anyone who did not know the difference between challenges and challenge caches.

[Keystone]

Based on guidance provided from Geocaching HQ, I would not publish a challenge requiring the finder to score 25 lab caches.

[BlueRajah]

Based on guidance provided from Geocaching HQ, I would not publish a challenge requiring the finder to score 25 lab caches.

 

Echoing my agreement with Keystone. That is what I have understood as well.

[+Roman!]

Based on guidance provided from Geocaching HQ, I would not publish a challenge requiring the finder to score 25 lab caches.

 

Echoing my agreement with Keystone. That is what I have understood as well.

 

Isn't this just another reason why lab caches should either be real caches or not caches at all instead of something in between?

[+NYPaddleCacher]

Challenge caches based on lab cache finds cannot be published, so double-check the requirements of the challenge cache where you were hoping to use your lab caches in order to qualify.

 

I understand that you can't indicate which lab caches you qualify for as a requirement as that type of information is viewable only to the cache finder, but would it be against the rules to have a challenge cache saying you need 25 lab caches? The old challenges had some challenge caches that required say 50 challenges.

 

Boy that last sentence would be quite the challenge for anyone who did not know the difference between challenges and challenge caches.

 

My memory may be failing me but I thought that a Geocaching Challenge couldn't be created where the challenge was based on finding 1 or more geocaches. Of course, the way it worked, someone could created the challenge but someone else could flag it as being inappropriate.

 

 

[+crazypig88]

Based on guidance provided from Geocaching HQ, I would not publish a challenge requiring the finder to score 25 lab caches.

 

Echoing my agreement with Keystone. That is what I have understood as well.

 

Isn't this just another reason why lab caches should either be real caches or not caches at all instead of something in between?

Start a petition, either "lab caches are caches too!", or the more Roman! Based petition "Traditional caches master race!"

[+TerraViators]

I understand what a lab cache is but I don't understand the appeal after finding a few. The lab caches I found seemed more like bait-and-switches to get me to a business to buy a product.

[+Doug.G]

I was at the GIGA event in Mainz Germany yesterday and was talking to one of the Organizers who mentioned that Groundspeak had finally decided to properly integrate Lab Caches into people's Statistics - so that Labs will now be treated the same as "normal" cache-types. Apparently Groundspeak will set some "default" statistics retrospectively to fill the gaps in the Lab Cache base data e.g. All previous Lab Caches to date will have a DT set retrospectively of 1.5/1.5.

 

I am curious whether anyone else has heard this *rumour* and whether there is any truth to it? Seems like a great idea to fix the Lab Cache / Statistics issue.

[+Staticbird11]

Is there any way to change the log date for a lab cache? I found them 2 days ago, but logged them yesterday when I got home from the event even though the only possible day to find them was the previous day. It would have been my "best caching day" if they could be logged with the correct date!

 

Thanks!