TB

[1francie]

right here in front of me I have printed out the TB directions for dropping off, visit the cache listing,[/b]

visit the log a cache page, select the TB to drop off and I followed them to a T, what I did not see on any of the pages I visited was how to tell the TB owner that I took his TB out of one cache and put it in another..

These directions are undoubtedly some of the most confusing I have ever read pertaining to TB

It is no wonder half the TB are not logged/recorded... on the page of the cache I placed this TB in I see no

place to enter that it is now in that cache, even trying to explain this is confusing!

:anibad: :anibad:

Even when I entered the TB tracking number of the TB I moved I never saw it show up in the inventory of the new cache!

I am ready to give up...it certainly could be made easier.

Anyone else find this to be so?

[+Gitchee-Gummee]

This is gonna be a guess....

 

You cannot log a "Placed" log because you have not logged a cache (Find, Note... whatever).

You must be actively engaged in logging a cache in order to log a trackable into that cache.

 

If you are not in the action of logging a cache, this is why you do not see an option to log it as Placed (or Dropped).

[+cerberus1]

right here in front of me I have printed out the TB directions for dropping off, visit the cache listing,[/b]

visit the log a cache page, select the TB to drop off and I followed them to a T, what I did not see on any of the pages I visited was how to tell the TB owner that I took his TB out of one cache and put it in another..

These directions are undoubtedly some of the most confusing I have ever read pertaining to TB

It is no wonder half the TB are not logged/recorded... on the page of the cache I placed this TB in I see no

place to enter that it is now in that cache, even trying to explain this is confusing!

:anibad: :anibad:

Even when I entered the TB tracking number of the TB I moved I never saw it show up in the inventory of the new cache!

I am ready to give up...it certainly could be made easier.

Anyone else find this to be so?

No.

If this is the one you retrieved and held since January, you posted two notes and discovered it.

It wasn't placed ("dropped").

When you place it, the system tells the trackables owner where it is.

[+kunarion]

Anyone else find this to be so?

Everybody gets confused by TBs. They get as complicated as you would ever hope, and then some.

 

Cache pages and TB pages are separate things, but logs are made a little easier because you can log Dropping a TB (or Visiting), while typing a cache log.

 

You Retrieve a TB by its Tracking Number, on the TB's page. But you place a TB into a cache by using the Inventory list on the cache log. When you took the TB and logged Retrieving the TB, it's in your Inventory. After you've placed the TB into a cache, make your cache log and select that TB from the list below the cache log. Select "Dropped Off". Submit the cache log and you're done. If you already submitted the cache log, edit it, and now select Dropped Off, and submit.

 

Once you've Dropped the TB into the cache, there's a "Drop" log on the TB's page where you can tell more about the TB itself.

 

In the example below, I physically placed the "Angel" Geocoin into a cache, so I'm editing my cache log, and selecting "Dropped Off". When I click Submit, the cache page gets updated (then the TB will be in the cache Inventory). And the TB's page gets updated with a terse "Drop" log. Next I go to the TB's page and type something about the TB and post pictures.

 

If you need a little refresher on how to Drop a TB into a cache, click the "?" icon next to the phrase "Dropped Off Any Trackables?" while you're composing your cache log.

 

Edited May 23, 2015 by kunarion

[+cerberus1]

This is gonna be a guess....

 

You cannot log a "Placed" log because you have not logged a cache (Find, Note... whatever).

You must be actively engaged in logging a cache in order to log a trackable into that cache.

 

If you are not in the action of logging a cache, this is why you do not see an option to log it as Placed (or Dropped).

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[1francie]

This is gonna be a guess....

 

You cannot log a "Placed" log because you have not logged a cache (Find, Note... whatever).

You must be actively engaged in logging a cache in order to log a trackable into that cache.

 

If you are not in the action of logging a cache, this is why you do not see an option to log it as Placed (or Dropped).

[1francie]

yep, I logged it when I found it a long time ago, it still shows up as in my possession

BUT, I want it to show up in the inventory of the new cache...

Edited May 23, 2015 by 1francie

[1francie]

Anyone else find this to be so?

Everybody gets confused by TBs. They get as complicated as you would ever hope, and then some.

 

Cache pages and TB pages are separate things, but logs are made a little easier because you can log Dropping a TB (or Visiting), while typing a cache log.

 

You Retrieve a TB by its Tracking Number, on the TB's page. But you place a TB into a cache by using the Inventory list on the cache log. When you took the TB and logged Retrieving the TB, it's in your Inventory. After you've placed the TB into a cache, make your cache log and select that TB from the list below the cache log. Select "Dropped Off". Submit the cache log and you're done. If you already submitted the cache log, edit it, and now select Dropped Off, and submit.

 

Once you've Dropped the TB into the cache, there's a "Drop" log on the TB's page where you can tell more about the TB itself.

 

In the example below, I physically placed the "Angel" Geocoin into a cache, so I'm editing my cache log, and selecting "Dropped Off". When I click Submit, the cache page gets updated (then the TB will be in the cache Inventory). And the TB's page gets updated with a terse "Drop" log. Next I go to the TB's page and type something about the TB and post pictures.

 

If you need a little refresher on how to Drop a TB into a cache, click the "?" icon next to the phrase "Dropped Off Any Trackables?" while you're composing your cache log.

 

[1francie]

"After you've placed the TB into a cache, make your cache log and select that TB from the list below the cache log. Select "Dropped Off". Submit the cache log and you're done. If you already submitted the cache log, edit it, and now select Dropped Off, and submit"

 

only trouble is that that TB was not listed from the list below the cache log...more confusion

 

from now on I will just email the cache owner and tell them I have their TB and that I am going to put it in soandso cache.

 

It is totally ridiculous to make something so easy so confusing...

[1francie]

right here in front of me I have printed out the TB directions for dropping off, visit the cache listing,[/b]

visit the log a cache page, select the TB to drop off and I followed them to a T, what I did not see on any of the pages I visited was how to tell the TB owner that I took his TB out of one cache and put it in another..

These directions are undoubtedly some of the most confusing I have ever read pertaining to TB

It is no wonder half the TB are not logged/recorded... on the page of the cache I placed this TB in I see no

place to enter that it is now in that cache, even trying to explain this is confusing!

:anibad: :anibad:

Even when I entered the TB tracking number of the TB I moved I never saw it show up in the inventory of the new cache!

I am ready to give up...it certainly could be made easier.

Anyone else find this to be so?

No.

If this is the one you retrieved and held since January, you posted two notes and discovered it.

It wasn't placed ("dropped").

When you place it, the system tells the trackables owner where it is.

[1francie]

"after entering the text for your find, scroll down to see a list of travel bug trackables in your inventory. Using the dropdown menu, select either "dropped off' to leave a TB in the cache or "visited" to record a visit while still retaining possession of the TB. Once you are ready, click the button to submit your log"

 

I never saw a dropdown menu.

Why would anyone make a trip to 'visit' a TB while still retaining possession of the TB?

Why would you have to make a distinction between retrieved, grabbed,dropped, discovered, when one would suffice? Am I more confused now? u bet

Edited May 23, 2015 by 1francie

[+cerberus1]

Okay, I found the cache that you wrote a note on.

After any log (yours was a note), you scroll through your inventory of trackables to submit it.

Some are yours, some may be anothers, awaiting an action.

Before you can hit "submit your log entry", you will/have to scroll through them (as kunarion's example shows).

 

Retrieved is taking it from a cache.

Placed (or dropped) is putting into another cache.

Grabbed is taking it from another cacher.

Discovered is simply seeing it and entering the tracking number.

Visit, well, I don't get that either, but some want to have the trackable "visit" a few caches before they finally drop it into one.

[+Bear and Ragged]

Why would you have to make a distinction between retrieved, grabbed, dropped, discovered, when one would suffice?

 

Having FOUND the cache, and it has a traveller in, you have the options:

Retrieve. You take the traveller from the cache to move it on.

Discover. You leave the traveller in the cache.

Grab. The traveller is not listed as being in the cache you found it in.

 

Once you have the traveller.

When you leave it in a cache you Drop it.

 

Visit. The cache may not be big enough to Drop/leave the traveller, a Visit will record the mileage. (You may Visit a traveller to a cache without a container, eg an Earthcache, a Visit can be added to its journey)

 

Grab can be used if you are handed a traveller by another cacher, eg you meet in person.

 

Discover can be used for TBs you see, but don't take. Can often be a cacher, or a cachers personal collection, or a cachers vehicle.

[+kunarion]

I never saw a dropdown menu.

I specially highlighted it for you with a green arrow in Post #4. Here I circled the whole thing in red. I hope that helps. While composing a cache log (or editing a previously submitted one), you see the drop-down menu next to any TB in your Inventory. Hover the mouse pointer over the box that says "No Action" to "drop down" more actions.

 

 

 

 

Why would anyone make a trip to 'visit' a TB while still retaining possession of the TB?

If you've placed it into a cache, "Visit" doesn't apply. The "Visit" log is handy for people who want to track TBs carried with them to each cache, with the convenience of only one log. The reason for this is, the TB accrues mileage, and the TB logs allow pictures and stories particular to the TB at its various "Visits". It's for cachers who would otherwise have to do a Drop log and a Retrieve log. Why they would even want to is totally up to the TB Owner and the person holding the TB. Maybe they have a plan. Maybe they're crazy. Go figure.

 

Why would you have to make a distinction between retrieved, grabbed,dropped, discovered, when one would suffice? Am I more confused now? u bet

I'd suggest only using the one that applies. If you placed it into a cache, select "Dropped Off".

 

Retrieved is a TB log used when you have taken it from a cache. "Grabbed" is for when you obtained it from somewhere other than a cache container. Dropped is available in a cache log and is used after you're placed the TB. Discovered is to let the Owner know you saw the TB although you left it where it was.

Edited May 23, 2015 by kunarion

[+kunarion]

from now on I will just email the cache owner and tell them I have their TB and that I am going to put it in soandso cache.

That's an acceptable option. Within the cache log, type "I placed [TB Name Here] into this cache, but can't figure out how to log it". The Cache Owner is automatically notified, and he or someone may come along and straighten out the logs. Do not reveal the Tracking Number, but the name and description is OK. I would be overjoyed to see my own TBs placed back into the game this way. I ask that people do so... if they can't figure it out, to please put it into a cache (the cache it was in is perfect), and to say so. It's great that your plan is to keep the TB in the game even if you can't figure out how to log it. This gives the next cacher something cool to find just as you have.

 

It is totally ridiculous to make something so easy so confusing...

Word.

Edited May 23, 2015 by kunarion

[+ByronForestPreserve]

I think Groundspeak is at least trying to make things less confusing--the new Travelbug tags have a QR code to scan instead of having to enter a code. The first one I found was in a baggie with a huge laminated page of instructions, which was great. But yeah...it's not really obvious what all of the choices mean.

[+NotreDameFan11]

Biggest problem is people are too lazy to read. If you read everything you can on the website and a great deal of the forums you will learn the terminology, etiquette and proper way to do things.

[1francie]

Biggest problem is people are too lazy to read. If you read everything you can on the website and a great deal of the forums you will learn the terminology, etiquette and proper way to do things.

 

If you r replying directly to me I am an avid reader.

[+AnemoneV]

Sometimes it seems to take a while for something to show up once I've logged it. Probably something to do with cookies or...?

Maybe if you check the next day, your TB will be listed in in the cache?

 

I've had trouble figuring out some of the TB stuff. I think even when you look things up, they can take some getting used to. For instance, I remember having trouble getting a picture to show up on a TB's page rather than just the cache page. I finally got it to work (twice!), but I'm sure I'll have to figure it out again next time. Eventually it will be second nature. I hope...!