+3trae3 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I am a relatively new cacher. I really enjoy trackables and moving them along, but I have a question about logging miles. To date, I have only really figured out how to log that I picked up a trackable and that I dropped off a trackable. I have seen on some of the trackable log where one person picks up the bug, then logs several moves, amassing miles as it goes. How does one do this? Quote Link to comment
+T.D.M.22 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Use the visit option instead if dropped off in the stop down menu. Quote Link to comment
+TriciaG Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Once you have it in your inventory (you've picked it up), you have the option to "visit" caches. This logs the miles without actually dropping the TB into the cache. Careful, though - many TB owners don't like pages and pages of visit logs on their TB pages. If there's a decent distance between caches, okay . . . or maybe visit only one or two caches in a day's run of many caches. But don't have it visit all caches, especially when they're only a couple hundred meters from each other. Quote Link to comment
+Team Dredd Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Glad to see you asking this, wish all cachers would try to log visits. We own quite a few TB's and really prefer to see them move via visits instead of just sitting in a geo kit for several months. PLEASE log them when you visit a cache. Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Careful, though - many TB owners don't like pages and pages of visit logs on their TB pages. Not just the owners, but anyone that wants to look through the TB log can be annoyed by lots of visits. All the visits can make it very difficult to see the practical information such as who picked up and dropped the TB when and where. Glad to see you asking this, wish all cachers would try to log visits. We own quite a few TB's and really prefer to see them move via visits instead of just sitting in a geo kit for several months. PLEASE log them when you visit a cache. Admittedly the TB owner's wishes are more important than the casual observer's. But for my TBs, I'd much rather someone not keep it for months to begin with. And, in particular, I don't want anyone to think it's OK to keep my TB for several months as long as they post mindless visits the whole time. My rule, both what I do myself and what I'd like to see on my TBs, is no visits with empty logs (what I just called "mindless visits"). If I'm not willing to go manually open and edit the TB's visit log to say something specific about that visit to that cache, then I don't log a visit. Quote Link to comment
+Seaglass Pirates Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's the X-Box/Playstation argument really. Some prefer it but some ... Hate it in a militant/bordering on get a life way. I get both sides of the argument but once you have the TB in your inventory you have the option to visit TB's. VISIT ALL or manually go through after each log and select an option for each TB. It's far easier for me to visit all. Obviously. And that's what I am inclined to do. That's because it's easier for me. I'll still continue to do that because the deal as I see it is this ... Your part - Buy the TB Put something on the TB Give the TB a mission Place the TB in the game. My part - Pick the TB up Obey the mission as much as possible Move the TB on to help its mission or keep it moving towards that end AND IN A TIMELY FASHION FOLKS!!! The TB owners wishes are sacrosanct within reason. Expecting people to log them in a timely fashion but to sift through and deselect their TB for a visit or place it in a defunct cache they own while they log all their finds for the week and muck about getting it out again or faf with the deselect business is aiming high. Thankfully we have only found a couple where the owners expectations have expressed themselves in an aggressive bordering on rude tone on the TB's page and we just get rid of them as quickly as possible. However we do have one that asked via a tag attached, that we not visit but just log as it's dropped off. For us this isn't a problem but newer cachers are unlikely to get it/bother. And via the iPhone app .... pfffffff rigmarole or what. But if anyone gets wound up by it ... and we have seen rants on here, please be aware - people are pointing and laughing. They really are. Showing their friends ... screaming with laughter ... tears rolling down faces ... Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thankfully we have only found a couple where the owners expectations have expressed themselves in an aggressive bordering on rude tone on the TB's page and we just get rid of them as quickly as possible. Can you give me the wording on the TBs that got you to get rid of them as quickly as possible? That's what I'd like to see happen. Anyone holding so many TBs that it's a hassle to work out which visit what, I want mine out of their inventory as fast as possible. And I hope they don't visit my caches to load the caches' TB logs with a million TBs all visited by the same person. Quote Link to comment
+Seaglass Pirates Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lol that's a little tragic and I fear has just entered you into a competition where people will clamour to wind you up. #justsayin Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 We own quite a few TB's and really prefer to see them move via visits instead of just sitting in a geo kit for several months. Please specify that on your TB page. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Thankfully we have only found a couple where the owners expectations have expressed themselves in an aggressive bordering on rude tone on the TB's page and we just get rid of them as quickly as possible. Can you give me the wording on the TBs that got you to get rid of them as quickly as possible? I would also appreciate that wording. People on this very Forum have insisted that if you ask them to place a TB they've held for too long, they will simply throw it away. It's as if kidnapping TBs is a cry for help, a passive-aggressive way to feel powerful. And some of us thought TBs were for moving from cache to cache. What a silly thought. My TB pages have a mass of text (ever increasing common sense things that I didn't expect would be necessary to say). One section is this: "The unending automatic visit logs with no photos, no personalized text, make it seem like there's a problem. Please physically place my TB into a container and log that you did so." It doesn't seem to sink in. Edited July 23, 2014 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+3trae3 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thank you everyone for your helpful replies. I can see that this is a topic of debate. I am guessing the main idea is (1) follow the instructions/goals set forth by the TB owner, and (2) when in doubt, use moderation and only log visits for substantial miles. On another note, I hope everyone will consider making the trek to my stomping grounds, Jackson, Missouri, for the 2015 MOGA event held here. Look forward to seeing you there! Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thank you everyone for your helpful replies. I can see that this is a topic of debate. Yup a debated issue -- sometimes hotly debated. Having seen many individuals log 30+ pages of unremarkable "Visit" logs thereabouts .1 mile apart, no comment, no photos, no nuttin' -- it happens, all too frequently. Sometimes though, as one of ours that is currently held and used for visits by an individual who is responsible for the majority of its near 30,000 miles! Most of those singular visits exceed 200 miles each. It happens, but far less frequently. Our hats are off to him. :) Quote Link to comment
+Team Dredd Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Please specify that on your TB page. No there is a helpful tid bit we hadn't thought of. I think I will ad that to our TB pages. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Seaglass Pirates Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Dip or "visit" a TB as much as you like. You must take what you read on here with a pinch of salt and sometimes a keg of it. Most are barking and don't even cache and would rather gnaw their own foot off than leave this forum and actually go caching. Seriously though if ... And it's rare ... If someone has a go at your for dipping tbs ... just ignore them. It's not in the rules so your doing nothing wrong and there is the facility to visit or dip tbs. If it were wrong that wouldn't be there. It's just that some have to have somthing to fixate on and moan about. Like a worry blanket. Or erm a doll. It's all abandonment issues and not being nursed for long enough. I've read it somewhere ... If you do get dragged into a hot debate look at their tbs pages. I mean *cough* Dproven *cough* some of them have not even mentioned it on theirs. Gotta give people half a chance. So look at pages. No mention ... Dip away. Like any social grouping - you only ever hear from the control freaks the rest are normal everyday chilled out get on with anyone people who could not give a rats. The rest ... well we wait for people like you. So we cAn MoUld you In OuR Own IMAGE AND STROKE YOU. Quote Link to comment
+TriciaG Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) *Never mind. Not worth it.* Edited July 24, 2014 by TriciaG Quote Link to comment
+eaglover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I don't see a Visit option for either of the TBs I have right now, just Write Note and Discovered It. So, where is the Visit option? Perhaps a TB owner has the option of removing the Visit option. Edited: Never mind, I figured it out. You have to go to the geocache location log and use the drop down menu for your TB on that page. There I see the options of Visit or Dropped Off. That wasn't clear to me from the instructions on the how to log a TB. Edited July 24, 2014 by eaglover Quote Link to comment
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