Fighting back

[+Ma & Pa]

There are often discussions on here regarding changes to geocaching and many cachers lament the fact that there are not as many challenging caches as in the past, and that there are too many easy caches. The great cacher Olewaif on Prince Edward Island (PEI) has a different view of the situation.

 

First a bit of background.

 

Olewaif has placed many caches and caching series bringing you to interesting places on PEI. Many of his hides have an historical theme regarding such topics as settlers and shipwrecks, etc. The descriptions are often lengthy, very informative and entertaining.

 

PEI is a very small Canadian province and has a very high cache density. There are 7647 active caches for a density of 3499 caches per 1000 square miles or 1351 per 1000 square kms. A good portion of the caches are in series on bike trails,(1800 on the confederation bike trail), hiking trails, in woodlots, on dirt roads, etc. Because of the density, many of the latest series require long bushwacks along rivers and ocean inlets where there are no trails. Olewaif thinks that there is still lots of room for easier caches and is putting out 1 cache a day for the next year. Here is the description on one of these caches.

 

Cacheivus : " A cache series for the rest of us !

 

It seems there's a growing conviction in many local cachers that there's just no more places on PEI to place a nice little P/G cache.. you know a cache a human being can drive reasonably close to and find fairly easily ( ' if all goes well as DLS loves to add ' ) . So a LOT of the newer cache series are in more remote and challenging locations. I am going to fight back! There IS spots for the seemingly threatened and maligned P/G ! I will show you my children, and just MAYBE a few others will get the hint and hide caches mere mortals can go to , look for , and find. This is such a one and there will be a total of 365 caches ending on April 24/ 2015.

I will make them as best I can as ' user friendly '. They will make you drive and maybe hike a bit. They also MIGHT be, at times, tricky hides. I think that's fair.

Yes I did indeed get my title from the Seinfeld series " Festivus " A Holiday for the rest of us " episode. Loved it .

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.Any comments

 

PAul

Edited July 21, 2014 by Ma & Pa

[+J Grouchy]

I don't really believe there is a lot of disdain for P&Gs...it's more about the style of hides (LPCs and guardrail caches) in places that don't really deserve caches. I can walk down the road and drop pennies in the gutter while you pace along behind me and pick them up...or I can tuck a dollar bill away at a lovely scenic overlook. Which scenario would you see as more rewarding?

[+cerberus1]

I don't really believe there is a lot of disdain for P&Gs...it's more about the style of hides (LPCs and guardrail caches) in places that don't really deserve caches. I can walk down the road and drop pennies in the gutter while you pace along behind me and pick them up...or I can tuck a dollar bill away at a lovely scenic overlook. Which scenario would you see as more rewarding?

+1

[+Isonzo Karst]

I was curious about the premise you express that in PEI, "many of the latest series require long bushwacks along rivers and ocean inlets where there are no trails", and that Olewaif expresses, "o a LOT of the newer cache series are in more remote and challenging locations."

 

The numbers from the most recent 1944 caches published in PEI (from today back to Feb 2, 2013) - all caches except events placed in that period (from 2 current PQs, so nothing that's been archived in that period).

 

1317 have D/T ratings of 2/2 or less 68%

670 have D/T ratings of 1.5 1.5 or less 34.5 %

274 have T rating at or above 3.5 14.1%

 

499 of them placed by Olewaif 25.7% of all caches in PEI

390 of his already placed caches have T rating at 2 or below.

392 placed by escaperr 20.2%

 

Nearly all caches are placed in groups of 15 or more, the hiding there seems to be totally dominated by "series".

 

1838 caches Traditional type 94.5%

[+Team Microdot]

1,193 caches hidden to date - that's a lot for one person.

[+Mudfrog]

There are often discussions on here regarding changes to geocaching and many cachers lament the fact that there are not as many challenging caches as in the past, and that there are too many easy caches. The great cacher Olewaif on Prince Edward Island (PEI) has a different view of the situation.

 

First a bit of background.

 

Olewaif has placed many caches and caching series bringing you to interesting places on PEI. Many of his hides have an historical theme regarding such topics as settlers and shipwrecks, etc. The descriptions are often lengthy, very informative and entertaining.

 

PEI is a very small Canadian province and has a very high cache density. There are 7647 active caches for a density of 3499 caches per 1000 square miles or 1351 per 1000 square kms. A good portion of the caches are in series on bike trails,(1800 on the confederation bike trail), hiking trails, in woodlots, on dirt roads, etc. Because of the density, many of the latest series require long bushwacks along rivers and ocean inlets where there are no trails. Olewaif thinks that there is still lots of room for easier caches and is putting out 1 cache a day for the next year. Here is the description on one of these caches.

 

Cacheivus : " A cache series for the rest of us !

 

It seems there's a growing conviction in many local cachers that there's just no more places on PEI to place a nice little P/G cache.. you know a cache a human being can drive reasonably close to and find fairly easily ( ' if all goes well as DLS loves to add ' ) . So a LOT of the newer cache series are in more remote and challenging locations. I am going to fight back! There IS spots for the seemingly threatened and maligned P/G ! I will show you my children, and just MAYBE a few others will get the hint and hide caches mere mortals can go to , look for , and find. This is such a one and there will be a total of 365 caches ending on April 24/ 2015.

I will make them as best I can as ' user friendly '. They will make you drive and maybe hike a bit. They also MIGHT be, at times, tricky hides. I think that's fair.

Yes I did indeed get my title from the Seinfeld series " Festivus " A Holiday for the rest of us " episode. Loved it .

.

 

.Any comments

 

PAul

 

Sounds like Olewaif's area's situation is unique. I figure that most places around the world already have what he is fighting for.

[+TopShelfRob]

1,193 caches hidden to date - that's a lot for one person.

I'm sure he is easily able to keep up with the maintenance on that many caches.

[+kunarion]

Sounds like Olewaif's area's situation is unique. I figure that most places around the world already have what he is fighting for.

I've hidden one "guard rail cache", but it's the kind I'd like to find. Lesser known place (it's at a small nature area that even a lot of locals don't know about), watertight uniquely camo'd container, pleasant search (Except there is a wasp nest nearby, which does keep the cache trail from forming. OK, I'm still working on that wasp issue.)

 

I won't place 1000 micros just to "fight back" against a proliferation of amazing caches that require a hike. But if I had 1000 different "guard rail cache" hide ideas that I think people would enjoy, I might.

[+cerberus1]

I was curious about the premise you express that in PEI, "many of the latest series require long bushwacks along rivers and ocean inlets where there are no trails", and that Olewaif expresses, "o a LOT of the newer cache series are in more remote and challenging locations."

 

The numbers from the most recent 1944 caches published in PEI (from today back to Feb 2, 2013) - all caches except events placed in that period (from 2 current PQs, so nothing that's been archived in that period).

 

1317 have D/T ratings of 2/2 or less 68%

670 have D/T ratings of 1.5 1.5 or less 34.5 %

274 have T rating at or above 3.5 14.1%

 

499 of them placed by Olewaif 25.7% of all caches in PEI

390 of his already placed caches have T rating at 2 or below.

392 placed by escaperr 20.2%

 

Nearly all caches are placed in groups of 15 or more, the hiding there seems to be totally dominated by "series".

 

1838 caches Traditional type 94.5%

Thanks for that.

This dyslexic old fart couldn't get percentages down if it meant not being the next victim of "Saw".

- But a glance at maps showed there already was a multitude of, "many caches a human being can drive reasonably close to and find fairly easily".

[Mr.Yuck]

 

Yes I did indeed get my title from the Seinfeld series " Festivus " A Holiday for the rest of us " episode. Loved it .

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Who are these people?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

No soup Bushwacking for you.

[Mr.Yuck]

What, I killed the thread with a few Seinfeld lines? Actually, the first one isn't from the show, it's said that in Jerry's stand up act he says "who are these people?" too much.

 

This whole thing is somewhat unusual. It's usually the opposite, someone placing caches or a series of caches while taking a jab (usually good natured and in fun) at Park-n-grabs.