Groundspeak Forums: Muggles or Mugglers? - Groundspeak Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Muggles or Mugglers?

#1 User is offline   Cloudwalker501 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 22
  • Joined: 07-December 02

Posted 05 January 2007 - 03:47 AM

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!

#2 User is offline   Mr.Yuck 

  • NOT having an extramarital affair
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 8388
  • Joined: 19-August 03

Posted 05 January 2007 - 03:52 AM

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 03:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!


I'd have to to say Muggles, as in the term used in the Harry Potter books and movies. Mugglers is just sort of a "geoization" of the word by geocachers, many who probably have no idea of the Harry Potter orgin. Does the official geocaching FAQ still refer to them as "geo-muggles"? I've never seen or heard anyone use that term. :laughing:

#3 User is offline   Sound-Chaser 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 14
  • Joined: 18-August 04

Posted 05 January 2007 - 04:24 AM

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 06:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!


People.

#4 User is offline   The Leprechauns 

  • A Frog in Hamster's Clothing
  • Group: +Charter Members
  • Posts: 8673
  • Joined: 02-June 02

Posted 05 January 2007 - 04:34 AM

I don't mind the term "muggles" as I think it fits. But as a Harry Potter fan, I cringe every time I see it changed to "muggler." What's up with that? Some blend of mugger and muggle?

I also prefer limiting use of the term to non-geocachers, i.e., members of the general public that are present when I'm trying to find a cache, or who accidentally stumble across a cache. I sometimes see it applied to geocachers who turn over to the dark side and maliciously steal or vandalize caches, as in "The Cache Muggler has taken all four of the geocoins in my new cache, and left a nasty note." That's not a muggle, it's not a muggler. It's a maggot.

#5 User is offline   Strike Anywhere 

  • Combustible Cacher!
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 53
  • Joined: 09-September 06

Posted 05 January 2007 - 05:36 AM

View PostThe Leprechauns, on Jan 5 2007, 04:34 AM, said:

I don't mind the term "muggles" as I think it fits. But as a Harry Potter fan, I cringe every time I see it changed to "muggler." What's up with that? Some blend of mugger and muggle?


I used to cringe at the Muggle word as it just seemed to cliche and ghetto to take it from Harry Potter... I think people who felt like I did used the term muggler to attempt to get away from that feel but as I have been around now a little I just gave up and called stuff muggled or a muggle... it just seemed at first a little weird to use that term - I thought there had to be something more cool and ingenious from this geocrowd but muggle works.

#6 User is offline   Team CDCB 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 147
  • Joined: 11-August 04

Posted 05 January 2007 - 06:18 AM

I try to use muggle, but find I slip on occasion and say muggler. I don't think people who use muggler are trying to merge muggle and mugger, rather I think they (intentionally or not) are thinking of muggle as a verb, and then figureing one who does that gets an "-er" added to the end:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

#7 User is offline   Jhwk 

  • non des palourdes mortes
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1638
  • Joined: 11-November 04

Posted 05 January 2007 - 07:04 AM

Marvins!

I refuse to use that other term.

#8 User is offline   OHMIKY 

  • cache or charge
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 237
  • Joined: 19-July 05

Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:30 AM

a muggler is someone who makes muggles - in other words, muggles who breed

#9 User is offline   Woodbutcher68 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 547
  • Joined: 22-May 03

Posted 06 January 2007 - 02:18 PM

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 05:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!


Infidels!

#10 User is offline   namiboy 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 472
  • Joined: 03-July 06

Posted 06 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

civilians

#11 User is offline   Yno 

  • The name says it all.....
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 102
  • Joined: 18-December 06

Posted 06 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

Marklars.

#12 User is offline   GrnXnham 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 618
  • Joined: 18-March 03

Posted 07 January 2007 - 11:39 AM

View PostTheWhiteUrkel, on Jan 5 2007, 03:52 AM, said:

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 03:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!


I'd have to to say Muggles, as in the term used in the Harry Potter books and movies. Mugglers is just sort of a "geoization" of the word by geocachers, many who probably have no idea of the Harry Potter orgin. Does the official geocaching FAQ still refer to them as "geo-muggles"? I've never seen or heard anyone use that term. :D


I agree with this. I've noticed that people who are familar with Harry Potter say "Muggles." Cachers unfamiliar with Harry Potter are more likely to say "Mugglers."

#13 User is offline   BigFurryMonster 

  • GeoCat
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 573
  • Joined: 08-October 04

Posted 13 January 2007 - 02:37 PM

"Muggles" are all non-geocaching people, and would be the right answer to the question above.

From this:

"To muggle" is to 'destroy' a cache.

So, a "Muggler" is someone who destroys caches.

#14 User is offline   team lagonda 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 414
  • Joined: 14-November 05

Posted 13 January 2007 - 02:44 PM

scum of the earth..not to be criticle..

This post has been edited by team lagonda: 13 January 2007 - 02:48 PM


#15 User is offline   markz68 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 362
  • Joined: 08-June 06

Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:13 PM

I call them Muggles.

My Dad calls them Mugglers.

My wife calls them Wiggles. She "geo"-coined that word herself!

This post has been edited by markz68: 13 January 2007 - 07:14 PM


#16 User is offline   Team Mollymommy & ToyBoy 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 10
  • Joined: 28-January 06

Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

And then you have a cache that's easy and obvious, is it more muggleable? (try saying that out loud three times quickly). More muggleable, more muggleable, more muggleable......

#17 User is offline   Renegade Knight 

  • Illegitimi Non Carborundum
  • Group: +Charter Members
  • Posts: 24755
  • Joined: 16-January 02

Posted 13 January 2007 - 10:40 PM

Muggle. A non cacher. Normally used in discussions about caching.
Muggled. A cache taken by parties unkown.
Cache Maggot. A jacka** who specialiazes in taking caches.

#18 User is offline   heckle 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 55
  • Joined: 03-March 06

Posted 14 January 2007 - 06:29 AM

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 06:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!

How about "People who have not cached yet".

#19 User is offline   KBI 

  • Gruntled
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 3164
  • Joined: 21-October 02

Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:04 AM

View PostTeam CDCB, on Jan 5 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

Close.

If you ride a motorcycle, your a 'biker.'
If you ride a bicycle, your a 'cyclist.'

I've never understood that one either. :blink:

#20 User is offline   Bad_CRC 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1054
  • Joined: 30-August 06

Posted 14 January 2007 - 10:26 AM

View PostBigFurryMonster, on Jan 13 2007, 02:37 PM, said:

"Muggles" are all non-geocaching people, and would be the right answer to the question above.

From this:

"To muggle" is to 'destroy' a cache.

So, a "Muggler" is someone who destroys caches.



I believe that is correct.

#21 User is offline   Syndam 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 87
  • Joined: 31-December 06

Posted 14 January 2007 - 03:30 PM

View PostKBI, on Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM, said:

View PostTeam CDCB, on Jan 5 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

Close.

If you ride a motorcycle, your a 'biker.'
If you ride a bicycle, your a 'cyclist.'

I've never understood that one either. :lol:

What if I do both? Am I a Bikist? :lol:

#22 User is offline   markz68 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 362
  • Joined: 08-June 06

Posted 14 January 2007 - 05:24 PM

View PostSyndam, on Jan 14 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

View PostKBI, on Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM, said:

View PostTeam CDCB, on Jan 5 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

Close.

If you ride a motorcycle, your a 'biker.'
If you ride a bicycle, your a 'cyclist.'

I've never understood that one either. :lol:

What if I do both? Am I a Bikist? :lol:


Nope, you are a cycler!

#23 User is offline   Backwards Charlie from Austin 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 96
  • Joined: 01-November 03

Posted 14 January 2007 - 07:28 PM

View PostSyndam, on Jan 14 2007, 03:30 PM, said:

View PostKBI, on Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM, said:

View PostTeam CDCB, on Jan 5 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

Close.

If you ride a motorcycle, your a 'biker.'
If you ride a bicycle, your a 'cyclist.'

I've never understood that one either. :lol:

What if I do both? Am I a Bikist? :lol:


Yes, if you do both at the same time. :)

#24 User is offline   duhgee 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 29
  • Joined: 09-June 06

Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:16 PM

My follow-up question may be better suited to a new forum topic, but I'll ask it here anyways. I assume that a muggle/muggler is by definition a non-geocacher, so what exactly defines a geocacher?

I'll lay down a bit of context - I was at a cache yesterday and ran into this guy who admitted to not playing the game of geocaching, but a few years ago ran into someone finding the nearby cache, and at that time learned about the game. Since then, every few months, he comes back to the same cache just to read the log, check out the cache, ensure it's still hidden, and think some more about geocaching as he sits and looks out over the river. He's never found another cache, doesn't own a GPS, is fascinated by the game, and has a higher count than probably quite a few geocachers.

Does this describe a geocacher, or is he a muggle/muggler? Or maybe geoinquisitor? Or maybe a passive or honorary geocacher. What do you think?

#25 User is offline   nekom 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 627
  • Joined: 26-March 06

Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:49 AM

View Postduhgee, on Jan 15 2007, 06:16 PM, said:

My follow-up question may be better suited to a new forum topic, but I'll ask it here anyways. I assume that a muggle/muggler is by definition a non-geocacher, so what exactly defines a geocacher?

I'll lay down a bit of context - I was at a cache yesterday and ran into this guy who admitted to not playing the game of geocaching, but a few years ago ran into someone finding the nearby cache, and at that time learned about the game. Since then, every few months, he comes back to the same cache just to read the log, check out the cache, ensure it's still hidden, and think some more about geocaching as he sits and looks out over the river. He's never found another cache, doesn't own a GPS, is fascinated by the game, and has a higher count than probably quite a few geocachers.

Does this describe a geocacher, or is he a muggle/muggler? Or maybe geoinquisitor? Or maybe a passive or honorary geocacher. What do you think?


How about a "friend of geocaching"?

Actually I think being a geocacher basically just consists of identifying yourself as one. As with all other things in life, there are different degrees of it I guess.

#26 User is offline   Mushtang 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 3917
  • Joined: 13-June 03

Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:03 AM

View PostSyndam, on Jan 14 2007, 06:30 PM, said:

View PostKBI, on Jan 14 2007, 10:04 AM, said:

View PostTeam CDCB, on Jan 5 2007, 09:18 AM, said:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.

Close.

If you ride a motorcycle, your a 'biker.'
If you ride a bicycle, your a 'cyclist.'

I've never understood that one either. :D

What if I do both? Am I a Bikist? :)

Maybe you're a bi-ker?

#27 User is offline   emurock 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 397
  • Joined: 25-September 05

Posted 16 January 2007 - 08:02 AM

View Postcloudwalker_at, on Jan 5 2007, 03:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!

I my opinion Muggles are people who are non-geocacher's and Muggler's are people who take and,or violate caches.

#28 User is offline   Jhwk 

  • non des palourdes mortes
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1638
  • Joined: 11-November 04

Posted 16 January 2007 - 09:17 AM

Marvins, as in 'the martian' as in alien, as in uninitiated or an outsider.

That other word leaves a foul stench in my nose.

#29 User is offline   vaddynwashere 

  • Myshka Vadia
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: 17-August 04

Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:44 PM

View Postduhgee, on Jan 15 2007, 06:16 PM, said:

He's never found another cache, doesn't own a GPS, is fascinated by the game, and has a higher count than probably quite a few geocachers.


This would definitely be debated in another thread :(
But makes sense to say it like this here. I agree.
Wow the guy's devoted to this one cache. That's amazing.

My first find was an accident. It made me really sad to find out that it is no longer active :(((
Oh, that just gave me an idea <_< maybe they'd let me restore it if I asked.
I guess I'll go email the reviewer and the cache owner.

#30 User is offline   IGJoe 

  • The Ubernerd
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 114
  • Joined: 02-November 05

Posted 19 January 2007 - 06:47 AM

Can we refer to people who leave food in a cache as hammugglers?

I keep trying to use 'Marvin' instead of 'muggle' but I keep forgetting and use 'Murphy' or 'Martin' instead ... don't know why it just happens that way.

#31 User is offline   Marunders Map 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: 30-April 12

Posted 18 August 2012 - 02:37 AM

Well, I love Harry Potter (my Geocaching name says it all) and muggles in Harry Potter are Non-magic people. So muggles in Goecaching are Non-Geocaching people. P.S. The Marunders Map is a map in Harry Potter that is a map of Hogwarts that shows everybody in Hogwarts and what they are doing at every minuite of the day. P.P.S. I could go blabbering on about Harry Potter all day... but I will stop now...

This post has been edited by Marunders Map: 18 August 2012 - 02:40 AM


#32 User is offline   Marunders Map 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 2
  • Joined: 30-April 12

Posted 18 August 2012 - 02:39 AM

It's muggles. Non-magic people-muggles
Non-Geocacing people-muggles
:D :D :D :D :D :D

This post has been edited by Marunders Map: 18 August 2012 - 02:41 AM


#33 User is offline   Mr.Yuck 

  • NOT having an extramarital affair
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 8388
  • Joined: 19-August 03

Posted 18 August 2012 - 03:07 AM

View PostMarunders Map, on 18 August 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Well, I love Harry Potter (my Geocaching name says it all)


Yes, as a geek who has read every Harry Potter book, and seen every Harry Potter Movie, I was aware of that without even opening up the bumped thread. :blink:

Why just yesterday some guy in the U.S. said they should change the word, and send out 5,000,000 emails announcing the change. I don't suspect he'd like to hear you blabbering on about Harry Potter all day. :lol:

Welcome to Geocaching! I suspect as time goes on, you'll be explaining where the term muggles comes from to many Geocachers. A surprisingly large number of them don't seem to know.

#34 User is offline   Joshism 

  • Cacheapalooza Crew
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1171
  • Joined: 01-January 10

Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:57 AM

I don't like the term muggler. When I first started geocaching, I Googled the term to find out what it meant. I had the misfortune to see the Urban Dictionary definition...

#35 User is offline   BoredRoom 

  • Geocacher
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 69
  • Joined: 31-December 10

Posted 18 August 2012 - 06:34 AM

View PostMarunders Map, on 18 August 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Well, I love Harry Potter (my Geocaching name says it all) and muggles in Harry Potter are Non-magic people. So muggles in Goecaching are Non-Geocaching people. P.S. The Marunders Map is a map in Harry Potter that is a map of Hogwarts that shows everybody in Hogwarts and what they are doing at every minuite of the day. P.P.S. I could go blabbering on about Harry Potter all day... but I will stop now...



You mis-spelled "Marauder's"

http://en.wikipedia....otter#Detectors

#36 User is offline   Mr.Yuck 

  • NOT having an extramarital affair
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 8388
  • Joined: 19-August 03

Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:07 AM

View PostBoredRoom, on 18 August 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

View PostMarunders Map, on 18 August 2012 - 02:37 AM, said:

Well, I love Harry Potter (my Geocaching name says it all) and muggles in Harry Potter are Non-magic people. So muggles in Goecaching are Non-Geocaching people. P.S. The Marunders Map is a map in Harry Potter that is a map of Hogwarts that shows everybody in Hogwarts and what they are doing at every minuite of the day. P.P.S. I could go blabbering on about Harry Potter all day... but I will stop now...



You mis-spelled "Marauder's"

http://en.wikipedia....otter#Detectors


name taken although The username look-up tells me it would have been fine with the space between the two words. :ph34r:

#37 User is offline   NanCycle 

  • COLORADO, USA
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1073
  • Joined: 10-October 04

Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

View PostCloudwalker501, on 05 January 2007 - 03:47 AM, said:

What is the proper term for non-geocaching folks? I've seen it written both ways on the forums and in log entries. Just curious!


Muggles. Unless your "smart" phone auto-corrects it to "Muffles." Stupid smartphone.

#38 User is offline   Chief301 

  • Interfering with natural selection since 1989
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1283
  • Joined: 07-July 10

Posted 18 August 2012 - 12:17 PM

The term "muggles" has been around since WAY before Harry Potter...



#39 User is offline   knowschad 

  • Charter Nobody
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 17421
  • Joined: 20-May 05

Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:23 PM

View PostTeam CDCB, on 05 January 2007 - 06:18 AM, said:

I try to use muggle, but find I slip on occasion and say muggler. I don't think people who use muggler are trying to merge muggle and mugger, rather I think they (intentionally or not) are thinking of muggle as a verb, and then figureing one who does that gets an "-er" added to the end:

I farm, therefore I'm a farmer.
I bike, therefore I'm a biker.
I muggle, therefore I'm a muggler.


You can't always use that sort of logic with the English language. Would you say that you saw a herd of deers? The word is "muggle", not "muggler".

[Edit: sorry, I've just been attacked by a zombie]

This post has been edited by knowschad: 20 August 2012 - 05:25 PM


#40 User is offline   Ma & Pa 

  • Premium Member
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 350
  • Joined: 09-January 04

Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:19 PM

I seem to recall muggles being called geomuggles in the early days, but I could be wrong.

The French translation of the Harry Potter books uses the term moldu for muggle. In geocaching in Quebec, a muggle is referred to as géomoldu.


PA

#41 User is offline   Mr.Yuck 

  • NOT having an extramarital affair
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 8388
  • Joined: 19-August 03

Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:25 PM

View PostMa & Pa, on 20 August 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

I seem to recall muggles being called geomuggles in the early days, but I could be wrong.

The French translation of the Harry Potter books uses the term moldu for muggle. In geocaching in Quebec, a muggle is referred to as géomoldu.


PA


Oh yeah, for sure!! I most certainly remember the website calling them Geo muggles in an FAQ somewhere, but yet even at the time, I never heard one single person in the logs, or in person, refer to them as Geo muggles. Just plain old Muggles.

#42 User is offline   jellis 

  • Just keepin it fair and fun
  • Group: +Premium Members
  • Posts: 1909
  • Joined: 08-May 06

Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:29 PM

View PostBigFurryMonster, on 13 January 2007 - 02:37 PM, said:

"Muggles" are all non-geocaching people, and would be the right answer to the question above.

From this:

"To muggle" is to 'destroy' a cache.

So, a "Muggler" is someone who destroys caches.

Yup
Muggle I see as just someone nearby or watching you, Muggler is after they taken the container to be a jerk

Share this topic:


Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic