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#1 User is offline   Catch and Release 

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 08:32 PM

WHo uses what. I have noticed I get confused in the woods with North up cause north gets confusing in deep cover. However, Track up is easy to follow to a specific target, like a geo cache, but Northup is easier for me when driving. Any input on what others do? I've been using a gps now for one week, getting the hang of it.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 08:38 PM

I use Track up. I also turn maps so the direction I'm heading is up and continue to turn the map as I turn. When I was in high school some of my friends made fun of me for turning the map. Since then I took a beginners orientering course and one of the first thing the instructor said to do was orient the map to your direction. So that's the way I've used my GPSr. Hope that helps.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 08:48 PM

I use both. Track up is nice because you can see where the caches are in relationship to where you are heading. However sometimes the map bounces around too much while using Track Up, and it can be very annoying. If I go a place I haven't been, I prefer using North Up, so I learn the layout of the area while I'm caching. If I'm using North Up I can simply turn the GPS so the arrow faces the direction that I'm going to accomplish the same thing that Track Up does.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 05:44 AM

View PostCatch and Release, on Feb 11 2007, 08:32 PM, said:

WHo uses what. I have noticed I get confused in the woods with North up cause north gets confusing in deep cover. However, Track up is easy to follow to a specific target, like a geo cache, but Northup is easier for me when driving. Any input on what others do? I've been using a gps now for one week, getting the hang of it.

I use track up with my 2610 and with my hand held when geocaching. It just seems more natural to me.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:30 AM

Moving thread from "GPS in Education" to "GPS Units and Software" forum.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 06:47 AM

If I already have a mental map of the area I'm in, such as local streets or forest preserves, I find it more comfortable to use north up, but when in a new area, where no such mental map exists in my brain, I find track up easier.

One of the problems with track up is that it prevents me from getting a "north up" mental map in my brain. For example, when visiting Phoenix, I used track up to guide me to me destination, but right now I can't picture which way is north in that area.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 10:28 AM

Normally I only use the map screen while driving, so the GPS is always set to north up. It's just easier for me to keep everything straight at a glance. During times where I am using the map while not driving, I keep it set to north up, but will sometimes physically turn the GPS to orient the map with where I'm headed...similar to what TrailGators mentioned.

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 11:49 PM

I've always used Track up but it wasn't until I read the reference to orienteering above that I twigged why - decades ago (gulp!) that was the Orienteering way as I was shown. Old habits and all that! :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 04:55 AM

I've always used track up, no real reason, just like it better.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 05:33 PM

I use my Magellan XL on my Suzuki 700 cc King Quad on a Ram Mount for navigation when I am riding in the BoonDocks. With the GPS set for Track Up, the road/trail that I am following unfolds right in front of me on the ToPo 3D mapping large screen of the XL. With North Up it gets confusing as the direction you are going is not consistent with what is shown on your GPS screen,...unless you are going North.

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 11:12 PM

I have it so its track up when I zoom in close enough. Also so I can zoom out and have the maps point north to get my bearings.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 12:07 AM

Always North up. Doing so, you build up a mental picture of the map that you could use in case your GPS fails and you have to rely on your spare compass or sun and analog watch if not simply tree moss !

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  Posted 14 February 2007 - 08:38 AM

View PostSuscrofa, on Feb 14 2007, 12:07 AM, said:

Always North up. Doing so, you build up a mental picture of the map that you could use in case your GPS fails and you have to rely on your spare compass or sun and analog watch if not simply tree moss !


I agree but my wife likes Track up more so when she uses the GPS we switch it. She has convinced me that track up is better when our GPS is being used in the car though.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 02:31 PM

North up--always. Track up gives me a headache (spinning map).

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 05:49 PM

I first started using north up until I read about it in a forum question. I thought I would give it a try so I put in on track up. It sure is easier when driving because the turns are the same way I'm driving. It doesn't make too much difference when walking as I usually use the compass arrow for when I'm that close. I really like track up and expect I'll stay with it.


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Posted 14 February 2007 - 06:26 PM

View Postmedia601, on Feb 14 2007, 02:31 PM, said:

North up--always. Track up gives me a headache (spinning map).
:unsure: This is very true whenever the electronic compass goes whacko. You can press and hold the PAGE button on Garmin's to shut it off whenever this happens.

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 07:56 PM

I generally like north up if I'm just viewing my location on a map and track up if I'm navigating a route, but I've really become a fan of the highway mode now. I use a 2610 on a motorcycle and use track up (0.2 or 0.3mi scale) to warn me of hairy corners coming up (but I don't *rely* on it). I once saw a hairpin coming up on the GPS... the guy in front of me didn't... and he went down :unsure:.

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 09:08 PM

I am a north upper.

Though I use my gps's more for mountain biking than geocaching, and I keep it in my backpack - so whenever we stop to see where we are, the gps does not seem to always stay oriented in the direction we were traveling. So with north up I just pull out my trusty compass and all is well B)

Otherwise, with track up, I have to start hiking until the track up is actually up!

Though if it was handlebar mounted I might go track up.... :huh:

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 04:33 AM

For me it's always North Up (mostly on Topo Maps) when hiking/caching, Track up (on Road Maps) when driving. I also change data fields and a couple of other settings. Would really be nice if the GPS manufacturers would come up with user definable presets that store the whole set of settings so I can just define a personal 'hiking' and 'driving' mode...

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 04:56 AM

Always track up for me. I use it on an ATV with a ram mount and the track up keeps more of the screen displaying the terrain ahead.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 01:16 PM

this was an ongoing debate decades ago when i was an OOD and a navigator in the Navy. some people think in "true" (north up) and some think in "relative" (track up), especially submariners. i have always thought that it is easier to always keep north up, especially when maps are involved and when using a compass. i have found the same to be true using a gpsr.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 04:40 PM

North up for me except when using the gps for vehicle navigation.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 04:50 PM

Same here. With Track Up, when I am walking slowly, or stopped, having the map turn around drives me crazy. :)

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 05:03 PM

View PostMiragee, on Jul 2 2007, 05:50 PM, said:

Same here. With Track Up, when I am walking slowly, or stopped, having the map turn around drives me crazy. :)

I always use the arrow screen when I'm walking towards a cache.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 07:16 PM

North up, always, and "True North" to boot. Seems to me the best way to stay oriented to the landscape.

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 07:31 PM

originally I always used track up because I could tell which way to turn by looking at the map. now with garmins autorouting software even with north up the upcoming turn pop ups and turn warnings show the turns properly and I can still use north up.
North up is very easy to use, similar to using a map or mapping software on the PC. north is obviously up, right hand of screen is east, left hand west and bottom south. when I study my route & cache hides on pc I get familiar with map in north up, with track up setting on the GPSr the map orientation keeps changing so it can get confusing in new locations. With the small screen of the 60cx and vistacx the map turning I can loose any reference points I pick when glancing at the map, which when driving is annoying.

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