[Elric77]

IBcrashen, on Feb 23 2009, 06:16 PM, said:

Elric77, on Feb 23 2009, 04:08 PM, said:

I'm was so excited to see the ability to post finds through the App, however, none are actually logging.

Also, there is no option to "pick up trackables" or drop them off.

I have to keep using that other app

Please fix soon, the App is so awesome, but very pointless if you can't REALLY log or pick up and drop off.

It doesnt log on the cache page.
If you go to your profile page on the right side right above PQ`s is a Field Notes section click on that and you can log them by clicking links there.

Say what?

After using the App to search, find, get directed, and log (that doesn't really log), I still have to open Safari and go to geocaching.com, login, find my "field notes" and THEN post them? What about Trackables I pick up and drop off? Because of this flaw one bug I dropped off kinda got "lost" (don't worry, it was found again by someone else).

Any ETA on a fix for this?

I guess I'l wait patiently and use Geopher Lite, amazed that it's 99 cents, and does what Geocaching should be doing.

[Allanon]

Elric77, on Feb 25 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

IBcrashen, on Feb 23 2009, 06:16 PM, said:

Elric77, on Feb 23 2009, 04:08 PM, said:

I'm was so excited to see the ability to post finds through the App, however, none are actually logging.

Also, there is no option to "pick up trackables" or drop them off.

I have to keep using that other app

Please fix soon, the App is so awesome, but very pointless if you can't REALLY log or pick up and drop off.

It doesnt log on the cache page.
If you go to your profile page on the right side right above PQ`s is a Field Notes section click on that and you can log them by clicking links there.

Say what?

After using the App to search, find, get directed, and log (that doesn't really log), I still have to open Safari and go to geocaching.com, login, find my "field notes" and THEN post them? What about Trackables I pick up and drop off? Because of this flaw one bug I dropped off kinda got "lost" (don't worry, it was found again by someone else).

Any ETA on a fix for this?

I guess I'l wait patiently and use Geopher Lite, amazed that it's 99 cents, and does what Geocaching should be doing.

Yes

It's not broken, it's the way it's designed. TPTB WANT you to come to the website and make your log here.

[Elric77]

It's not broken, it's the way it's designed. TPTB WANT you to come to the website and make your log here.
[/quote]

That is incredibly unfortunate. That is what makes this App nearly useless for me.

I come to the site WHEN I CAN, I go Geocaching WHEN I CAN. Maybe if I could do it daily and delegate my time, but I have a full time job, a girlfriend, a son, AND an ex-wife.

It's like golf. I go when I can, I keep score while I'm playing. I do not want to have to come home and do homework after.

The snow is melting, and I would LOVE this app to be 100% Cacher friendly, for me and all the others that have other things to do in their life besides sitting at their computers.

We WILL come to the site, for many many other reasons, but don't force us as if you were our English Teacher. I don't want to lose another Tracking Bug, the owner probably won't like that, so I have to use that other 99 cent app until this one works FOR ME.

[team_goobie]

[quote name='Elric77' date='Feb 26 2009, 07:28 AM' post='3846198']
It's not broken, it's the way it's designed. TPTB WANT you to come to the website and make your log here.
[/quote]

That is incredibly unfortunate. That is what makes this App nearly useless for me.
(snip)
We WILL come to the site, for many many other reasons, but don't force us as if you were our English Teacher. I don't want to lose another Tracking Bug, the owner probably won't like that, so I have to use that other 99 cent app until this one works FOR ME.
[/quote]
Agreed, agreed, agreed. See [url="http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?s=&showtopic=212678&view=findpost&p=3833287"]Previous Rant.[/url]

Logging on the [url="http://wap.geocaching.com/"]WAP[/url] page until this is made right.

Tony

This post has been edited by team_goobie: 26 February 2009 - 08:10 AM

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 15 2009, 06:24 PM, said:

iPhone3Gcacher, on Jan 24 2009, 05:06 AM, said:

mtn-man, on Jan 23 2009, 08:34 PM, said:

It appears that it puts it in your field notes. <snip>
Click the "Actions" link and the log area will open and everything is filled in. You can then add the log.
Not sure if that is how the actions were suppose to work, but that is how it is working at this time.

Jeremy stated that this was done on purpose to encourage longer logs from home.

Hrrm, what? The point of logging in the field is to get it up there on the page, now, and I'll move on to the next cache. If I wanted to wait until I got home, there is no point in having the feature at all - as it stands I've been using the WAP site to log (from the iPhone) as this completely counterintuitive implementation of logging via the app didn't become clear to me before I hit this thread. How many users do you think are used to texting from their phones? Do they have to wait until they get home and log into their computer to view and then send their IM messages? WHAT? This makes no sense!

The iGeocaching app recently added field notes via a mini browser that opens on gc.com. That works as expected (logs post to the web page without any further action needed). The developer is toying with the notion of allowing a user toggle to the WAP site as an option. Why the Groundspeak app couldn't do the same makes no sense to me.

Sounds like a case of "this is what we already do for field notes on other handhelds so this is how we'll do it for the iPhone". Guess what. This isn't any other handheld, and it doesn't fit the Apple way - the log should just post, on gc.com, after the user submits, bam. Having to jump through another hoop to post it is insane - completely defeats the point.

As for encouraging longer logs at home, how about letting the user decide. If the cache log needs more elaboration after I'm home at my desktop, it'll get it, or not. Simple enough to edit a log once it's posted.

The updates for this app have been awesome, but this logging feature has been poorly handled. It would not surprise me a bit if the majority of users have tried it, thought that it was broken, and never used it again after seeing that their logs didn't post. (And were rightfully p8*&ed off that they had to reenter their notes). I am, and even more now that I see that the notes I wrote in the field were there all along, just sitting in queue.

JMTC fer Finagle's sake.

T

Actually, the iPhone App is handling those logs the same way in which Geocache Navigator (for those that don't know-software for certain GPS enabled phones) handles them...so, Field Notes have been around for a while longer than the iPhone App...They just became "more noticeable" when the Colorado came out...followed by the Oregon and PN-40...and, of course, iPhone...

This post has been edited by ArcherDragoon: 26 February 2009 - 12:00 PM

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

Actually, the iPhone App is handling those logs the same way in which Geocache Navigator (for those that don't know-software for certain GPS enabled phones) handles them...so, Field Notes have been around for a while longer than the iPhone App...They just became "more noticeable" when the Colorado came out...followed by the Oregon and PN-40...

That's kind of the point, there's no reason for these field notes to "act" like previous handhelds. It's counterintuitive to the platform.

Tony

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 02:01 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

Actually, the iPhone App is handling those logs the same way in which Geocache Navigator (for those that don't know-software for certain GPS enabled phones) handles them...so, Field Notes have been around for a while longer than the iPhone App...They just became "more noticeable" when the Colorado came out...followed by the Oregon and PN-40...

That's kind of the point, there's no reason for these field notes to "act" like previous handhelds. It's counterintuitive to the platform.

Tony

I guess I don't see it as counter intuitive...I use Geocache Navigator on my Blackberry...pretty much a phone with a bunch of extra bells/whistles...really no different than the iPhone...at least for the way I use it...

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

I guess I don't see it as counter intuitive...I use Geocache Navigator on my Blackberry...pretty much a phone with a bunch of extra bells/whistles...really no different than the iPhone...at least for the way I use it...

Well, you don't have an iPhone. Try tagging along with a pal that has one and I think you'll see what I mean. Logging a find at the site is pretty cool, I've been doing so since I got an iPod touch (where there was wifi coverage) on the wap or the regular site, using Safari (built in web browser). When logging via the app came to iGeocacher the dev handled it via a mini-browser in an app window, which is cool, and what I expected on the Groundspeak app.

But when the Groundspeak devs implemented it, they used this old mechanism of "holding" the logs back. I can see a lot of reasons why - bandwidth, editability later being two. But this doesn't really apply now. Users really do expect this to act differently. Look back on this thread and you'll find others that expected the same thing that I did -

Really, give it a whirl, find a bud with an iPhone and I think you'll see what I mean. You'll probably end up wanting the feature on your Blackberry.

Thanks man- Tony

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

I guess I don't see it as counter intuitive...I use Geocache Navigator on my Blackberry...pretty much a phone with a bunch of extra bells/whistles...really no different than the iPhone...at least for the way I use it...

Well, you don't have an iPhone. Try tagging along with a pal that has one and I think you'll see what I mean. Logging a find at the site is pretty cool, I've been doing so since I got an iPod touch (where there was wifi coverage) on the wap or the regular site, using Safari (built in web browser). When logging via the app came to iGeocacher the dev handled it via a mini-browser in an app window, which is cool, and what I expected on the Groundspeak app.

But when the Groundspeak devs implemented it, they used this old mechanism of "holding" the logs back. I can see a lot of reasons why - bandwidth, editability later being two. But this doesn't really apply now. Users really do expect this to act differently. Look back on this thread and you'll find others that expected the same thing that I did -

Really, give it a whirl, find a bud with an iPhone and I think you'll see what I mean. You'll probably end up wanting the feature on your Blackberry.

Thanks man- Tony

You missed the point of what I was saying completely...

I have cached with folks that have the iPhone App and Geocache Navigator...they essentially do the same thing...iPhone and Blackberry (at least the one I have) are both GPS enabled phones (I know, oversimplification...ignore that for the moment)...Geocaching App and Geocache Navigator-essentially turn you GPS enabled phone into a handheld device...both of which (talking applications) require live access to the web/data services to pull info from GC.com...If I am "locked" onto a cache and loose Data Service, I can still find that cache...I just can't post anything until I get that service back (I assume that...since I have yet to actually loose Data Service in the area for which I have used my phone)...

I hit "Found It" on my Blackberry, it posts (I remind you...live from the field) that log to the web via "Field Notes"...

I was not referring to "Field Notes" in the way in which dedicated GPS devices (Colorado, Oregon, PN-40) use them, I was referring to "Field Notes" in the way for which phones use them...

Referring to you statement about "posting to the web"...if you look back to the very first post...it is clearly stated the logs are sent to the web via "Field Notes"...heck, Nate even posts a link to the "Field Notes" section...they (Groundspeak) never hid that fact...

[Elric77]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

I guess I don't see it as counter intuitive...I use Geocache Navigator on my Blackberry...pretty much a phone with a bunch of extra bells/whistles...really no different than the iPhone...at least for the way I use it...

Well, you don't have an iPhone. Try tagging along with a pal that has one and I think you'll see what I mean. Logging a find at the site is pretty cool, I've been doing so since I got an iPod touch (where there was wifi coverage) on the wap or the regular site, using Safari (built in web browser). When logging via the app came to iGeocacher the dev handled it via a mini-browser in an app window, which is cool, and what I expected on the Groundspeak app.

But when the Groundspeak devs implemented it, they used this old mechanism of "holding" the logs back. I can see a lot of reasons why - bandwidth, editability later being two. But this doesn't really apply now. Users really do expect this to act differently. Look back on this thread and you'll find others that expected the same thing that I did -

Really, give it a whirl, find a bud with an iPhone and I think you'll see what I mean. You'll probably end up wanting the feature on your Blackberry.

Thanks man- Tony

You missed the point of what I was saying completely...

I have cached with folks that have the iPhone App and Geocache Navigator...they essentially do the same thing...iPhone and Blackberry (at least the one I have) are both GPS enabled phones (I know, oversimplification...ignore that for the moment)...Geocaching App and Geocache Navigator-essentially turn you GPS enabled phone into a handheld device...both of which (talking applications) require live access to the web/data services to pull info from GC.com...If I am "locked" onto a cache and loose Data Service, I can still find that cache...I just can't post anything until I get that service back (I assume that...since I have yet to actually loose Data Service in the area for which I have used my phone)...

I hit "Found It" on my Blackberry, it posts (I remind you...live from the field) that log to the web via "Field Notes"...

I was not referring to "Field Notes" in the way in which dedicated GPS devices (Colorado, Oregon, PN-40) use them, I was referring to "Field Notes" in the way for which phones use them...

Referring to you statement about "posting to the web"...if you look back to the very first post...it is clearly stated the logs are sent to the web via "Field Notes"...heck, Nate even posts a link to the "Field Notes" section...they (Groundspeak) never hid that fact...

I think you are missing HIS point.
The fact that we have to use 2 Apps (Geocaching AND Safari) to actually LOG (NOT Field Notes) the find (and/or trackables), is a royal PITA and totally unnecessary.
Especially when there is a 99 cent app that does it all in ONE App.

We are saying that there is no need for 2 apps if they just simply let us geocache the way WE want to geocache.

We will still come to the site, but this way, we won't be annoyed and pissed off when we come.

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

You missed the point of what I was saying completely...
(big snip)
I hit "Found It" on my Blackberry, it posts (I remind you...live from the field) that log to the web via "Field Notes"...

No really, I didn't miss our point. I just see no point in logging to the field notes at all. The App, imho, should send the find log straight up to the cache page. Which is what iGeocaching does via a mini browser. And what I have done in the field via WAP or the regular GC.com site.

Now, if the Blackberry App posts directly to the cache page in the field, that is GREAT and what I would love to see for the iPhone app. Does it do that or does it post to the field notes and require you to log on to a web browser and "send" them to the cache page? I am utterly unfamiliar with the balckerry app! Please enlighten-

Thanks- Tony

[ArcherDragoon]

Elric77, on Feb 26 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

I think you are missing HIS point.
The fact that we have to use 2 Apps (Geocaching AND Safari) to actually LOG (NOT Field Notes) the find (and/or trackables), is a royal PITA and totally unnecessary.
Especially when there is a 99 cent app that does it all in ONE App.

We are saying that there is no need for 2 apps if they just simply let us geocache the way WE want to geocache.

We will still come to the site, but this way, we won't be annoyed and mad* when we come.

No different for Blackberry users (and other users of Geocache Navigator)...

Geocache Navigator to find caches and it's own Browser (what ever the official name is) to actually log the caches if I don't want to use "Field Notes"...basically two apps if I ignore the whole "Field Notes" thing...

I am trying to explain that it is not something only done with the iPhone App...

*Edit for the use of friendlier wording...

This post has been edited by ArcherDragoon: 26 February 2009 - 01:09 PM

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:02 PM, said:

Geocache Navigator to find caches and it's own Browser (what ever the official name is) to actually log the caches if I don't want to use "Field Notes"...basically two apps if I ignore the whole "Field Notes" thing...

I am trying to explain that it is not something only done with the iPhone App...

Point taken, now, don't you think that is royally silly to have to use two apps?

Tony

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

You missed the point of what I was saying completely...
(big snip)
I hit "Found It" on my Blackberry, it posts (I remind you...live from the field) that log to the web via "Field Notes"...

No really, I didn't miss our point. I just see no point in logging to the field notes at all. The App, imho, should send the find log straight up to the cache page. Which is what iGeocaching does via a mini browser. And what I have done in the field via WAP or the regular GC.com site.

Now, if the Blackberry App posts directly to the cache page in the field, that is GREAT and what I would love to see for the iPhone app. Does it do that or does it post to the field notes and require you to log on to a web browser and "send" them to the cache page? I am utterly unfamiliar with the balckerry app! Please enlighten-

Thanks- Tony

Field Notes -> Log on to GC.com -> post log...the same way the iPhone App (Groundspeak Version) operates...

For the purpose of the conversation...the iPhone App works basically the same way as Geocache Navigator...the main difference is the iPhone App is really only good for the iPhone, while Geocache Navigator is good for various brands of phones given they are GPS enabled...(there is a limit as to which phones...as stated on Trimble's site)...

This post has been edited by ArcherDragoon: 26 February 2009 - 01:12 PM

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:02 PM, said:

Geocache Navigator to find caches and it's own Browser (what ever the official name is) to actually log the caches if I don't want to use "Field Notes"...basically two apps if I ignore the whole "Field Notes" thing...

I am trying to explain that it is not something only done with the iPhone App...

Point taken, now, don't you think that is royally silly to have to use two apps?

Tony

That is all I was trying to get at...the approach is not unique to the iPhone...

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

Point taken, now, don't you think that is royally silly to have to use two apps?

Tony

That is all I was trying to get at...the approach is not unique to the iPhone...

Yup, and its too bad. This is something that should be changed for BOTH apps. Especially since the intent (driving the cacher bak to gc.com, presumably back at home) is easily circumvented by logging the find on a web browser via the phone.

Thanks bud- Tony

This post has been edited by team_goobie: 26 February 2009 - 01:15 PM

[ArcherDragoon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 03:11 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

Point taken, now, don't you think that is royally silly to have to use two apps?

Tony

That is all I was trying to get at...the approach is not unique to the iPhone...

Yup, and its too bad. This is something that should be changed for BOTH apps. Especially since the intent (driving the cacher bak to gc.com) is easily circumvented by logging the find on a web browser via the phone.

Thanks bud- Tony

Yes and No...

The end result is still basically the same...we still log on...just not over a "traditional" computer connection...

[team_goobie]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:18 PM, said:

Yes and No...

The end result is still basically the same...we still log on...just not over a "traditional" computer connection...

This is essentially a feature request for the iPhone App. I'm going to ignore Field Notes in that respect; it sits on it's own.

I would love to see the ability to send logs directly to the cache page, drop bugs, pick em up, and whatever else that a "log your visit" page does, on the Geocaching iPhone App.

iGeocaching and iGeopher Lite both behave in this fashion.

Geocache Navigator is not an iPhone app but it is interesting that the developers dont have logging like iGeocaching and iGeopher do - especialy since it has been around much longer.


Tony

[Allanon]

team_goobie, on Feb 26 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:18 PM, said:

Yes and No...

The end result is still basically the same...we still log on...just not over a "traditional" computer connection...

This is essentially a feature request for the iPhone App. I'm going to ignore Field Notes in that respect; it sits on it's own.

I would love to see the ability to send logs directly to the cache page, drop bugs, pick em up, and whatever else that a "log your visit" page does, on the Geocaching iPhone App.

iGeocaching and iGeopher Lite both behave in this fashion.

Geocache Navigator is not an iPhone app but it is interesting that the developers dont have logging like iGeocaching and iGeopher do - especialy since it has been around much longer.


Tony

Well, I have an iPhone and I can tell you I've never used 'field notes' and never will...nor would I ever use it for 'logging from the field' even if full logging were available.

If I'm out caching, my highest priority is not logging the cache, it's going to the next cache. I log when I get home.

[team_goobie]

Allanon, on Feb 26 2009, 01:51 PM, said:

Well, I have an iPhone and I can tell you I've never used 'field notes' and never will...nor would I ever use it for 'logging from the field' even if full logging were available.

If I'm out caching, my highest priority is not logging the cache, it's going to the next cache. I log when I get home.

Yup, but it's good to have a choice especially on out of town trips, I rarely bring along my laptop anymore since I got the Phone. When the cache is in my "saved" tab in the Geocaching app it would be great to be able to send the log through there, whether or not I am still in the field or in a hotel room (or more likely, having a beer at the bar!) later on.

This post has been edited by team_goobie: 26 February 2009 - 02:06 PM

[markens]

Interesting discussion about field notes vs field logging. And I think that's the point -- both behaviors are good, and appeal to a different set of folks. For me, the current way field notes behaves works well. I like to jot quick notes to myself in the field, which I elaborate on later from the comfort of my desk when I actually post the log entries. In this way, it replaces cachemate on the Palm, except that a large part of the cache lookup process is automated. It's much easier now for me to post a day's worth of meaningful log entries.

I can certainly see that this behavior does not satisfy people who want to post actual log entries from the field. Hopefully some good integration with the wap site will solve that.

[Elric77]

I sincerely hope that they do fix (I say fix, because my 9.99 is gone, and I am not happy), soon, the snow is melting here, and I want to go Geocaching ASAP.

I don't want to use the clunky but functional Geopher Lite.

Consider this a Request as well.

What's the refund process like in iTunes?

[team_goobie]

Elric77, on Feb 26 2009, 07:51 PM, said:

Consider this a Request as well.

Amen bro. This is a thread for iPhone evanglistas, let's get to it. The App should behave like a real iPhone app - connectivity being assumed unless otherwise noted.

Tony

[ArcherDragoon]

markens, on Feb 26 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

Interesting discussion about field notes vs field logging. And I think that's the point -- both behaviors are good, and appeal to a different set of folks. For me, the current way field notes behaves works well. I like to jot quick notes to myself in the field, which I elaborate on later from the comfort of my desk when I actually post the log entries. In this way, it replaces cachemate on the Palm, except that a large part of the cache lookup process is automated. It's much easier now for me to post a day's worth of meaningful log entries.

I can certainly see that this behavior does not satisfy people who want to post actual log entries from the field. Hopefully some good integration with the wap site will solve that.

Basically sums up why I like "Field Notes"...

[Lil Devil]

ArcherDragoon, on Feb 27 2009, 06:48 AM, said:

markens, on Feb 26 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

Interesting discussion about field notes vs field logging. And I think that's the point -- both behaviors are good, and appeal to a different set of folks. For me, the current way field notes behaves works well. I like to jot quick notes to myself in the field, which I elaborate on later from the comfort of my desk when I actually post the log entries. In this way, it replaces cachemate on the Palm, except that a large part of the cache lookup process is automated. It's much easier now for me to post a day's worth of meaningful log entries.

I can certainly see that this behavior does not satisfy people who want to post actual log entries from the field. Hopefully some good integration with the wap site will solve that.

Basically sums up why I like "Field Notes"...

Me too. As a cache owner, I like to read long logs on my cache pages, telling me about the experience the finder had. When they log on a mobile phone keyboard, those logs tend to be really short. I don't want that. I want them to go home, use a real keyboard, and write a real log. I think the field notes work great for this.

[team_goobie]

Lil Devil, on Feb 27 2009, 08:09 AM, said:

Me too. As a cache owner, I like to read long logs on my cache pages, telling me about the experience the finder had. When they log on a mobile phone keyboard, those logs tend to be really short. I don't want that. I want them to go home, use a real keyboard, and write a real log. I think the field notes work great for this.

Notebooks work fine for that too, which is what I choose when I'm at the cache site for interesting tidbits about the cache (especially giveaways). They have the added benefit of doubling as sketchbooks.

It would be nice to think that everyone would write an interesting log on WHATEVER device they use to log, but it isn't going to happen. The TNLNSL cachers are going to post those little gems no matter what.

As for "using a real keyboard", omigawd, have you seen the THUMBS on today's teenagers? Yeesh! I think keyboards could be obsolete in a few years!

[GadgetMonster]

Has anyone noticed an accuracy problem? I was 50' from a cache that I knew because I had been near it previously and couldn't stop however my iphone 3g said that the cache was still .8miles away. Anyone else had this issue?

[demon999]

I like the Geocaching app a lot. Especially also the Field Note function. But I have one problem and one question.

Problem:

I am geocaching in Tokyo. Almost all Field notes I submit are one day wrong. Can you update the system that it takes my timezone setting into account instead of always using the current US time?

Question:

When I have a FTF and submit immediately a Field Note... will this then be the first log or will it only take the time when I write the full log entry?

Just like to know if at a FTF I have to log it quickly via the website or not.

[martingu]

I have exactly the same problem as you saintroad. I tried a full uninstall / reinstall. Nothing helps.

I have a regular unbroken iPhone 3G running 2.1

Needless to say, I wasn't aware that I signed up for a beta-testing program when I did the upgrade. Isn't it time to offer the old version as a separate download from appstore? Spring is coming and I really miss this app.

On another topic, please make field notes log directly to the page. Right now its a pretty useless feature. Why struggle with the iphone keyboard if you have to visit the same note again later at home anyway? My personal usage pattern as a casual geocacher is that I almost never visit gc.com, my entire experience is through the iPhone.

Greets
// MartinGu

saintroad, on Jan 27 2009, 04:41 AM, said:

...

Click on GC.
Connects and Loads up.
Click on Neary Caches
Loads my list.
Highlight any on the list --- goes blue as normal.
THEN BAM! - NOTHING ----- just sits there locked up/frozen.

...

[Lil Devil]

martingu, on Mar 2 2009, 02:50 AM, said:

... Why struggle with the iphone keyboard if you have to visit the same note again later at home anyway?

Precisely! Don't struggle with it. Just jot a few notes, then later when you're at home with a real keyboard, you can bring up your field notes and edit and expand each log before submitting it. Best of both worlds that way

[Skippermark]

I could never write a real log from the phone, which is why I love field notes. Gives me the opportunity to write a quick note and then write about it in detail when I get home.

[AtlasHiker]

Is it possible to "download" the cache information onto the iPhone itself so that if I don't have cell phone signal I can still look at the cache information for the ones I'm attempting to find? Of course I would have to download the information ahead of time, but that wouldn't be a problem.

[team_goobie]

rhuff04, on Mar 3 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Is it possible to "download" the cache information onto the iPhone itself so that if I don't have cell phone signal I can still look at the cache information for the ones I'm attempting to find? Of course I would have to download the information ahead of time, but that wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, in the Geocaching App click "save" on the cache page and it will save into the saved tab.

[AtlasHiker]

team_goobie, on Mar 3 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

rhuff04, on Mar 3 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

Is it possible to "download" the cache information onto the iPhone itself so that if I don't have cell phone signal I can still look at the cache information for the ones I'm attempting to find? Of course I would have to download the information ahead of time, but that wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, in the Geocaching App click "save" on the cache page and it will save into the saved tab.

I'm not entirely sure how I missed this, but thanks!

[Skippermark]

Question about saving caches. If you lose cell phone service and have some caches saved, are you still able to route to them or does the GPS need internet to work? I've not yet lost cell phone coverage anywhere and couldn't test it.

This post has been edited by Skippermark: 04 March 2009 - 06:28 AM

[smallblockfuelie]

Hey, I've noticed that when I review recent log entries from my phone that they're often not current. When I check from my computer I'll often find more recent entries.

[martingu]

I just fixed my own problem. An upgrade to firmware 2.2 solved the issue below:

// MartinGu

martingu, on Mar 2 2009, 02:50 AM, said:

I have exactly the same problem as you saintroad. I tried a full uninstall / reinstall. Nothing helps.

I have a regular unbroken iPhone 3G running 2.1

saintroad, on Jan 27 2009, 04:41 AM, said:

...

Click on GC.
Connects and Loads up.
Click on Neary Caches
Loads my list.
Highlight any on the list --- goes blue as normal.
THEN BAM! - NOTHING ----- just sits there locked up/frozen.

...

[popop]

smallblockfuelie, on Mar 4 2009, 10:27 AM, said:

Hey, I've noticed that when I review recent log entries from my phone that they're often not current. When I check from my computer I'll often find more recent entries.

Were you viewing the cache logs from the "Saved" section? I believe this would be expected behavior.

[smallblockfuelie]

popop, on Mar 5 2009, 08:24 AM, said:

smallblockfuelie, on Mar 4 2009, 10:27 AM, said:

Hey, I've noticed that when I review recent log entries from my phone that they're often not current. When I check from my computer I'll often find more recent entries.

Were you viewing the cache logs from the "Saved" section? I believe this would be expected behavior.

You know, I am not certain. I will test it today and find out. Thanks.

[Mr. Incredible!]

This may be off-topic for the direction this discussion has gone, but I think it fits with the original intent...

I like that I can "screen out" my previous finds from my cache searching, and the app also screens out my hides. But it gives me no way to see them (atleast that I can find...) if I want to...

I was doing some cache maintenance, without my GPSr, on some similarly names caches (Cache N' Go #1 - #2 - #3, etc) and I didn't remember which was which. It would have been nice to have been able to search for area caches and have mine pop up.

[Pablo Mac]

I found 24 caches this weekend with the Geocaching app on my 2G iPhone and Garmin 60CSx, and I like it a lot. I have found how to save individual caches for when I'm out of service coverage (it happens a lot for me), but I'm looking for a way to save multiple caches at once. This functionality represents the last link in the chain holding me to my old but trusty Palm/CacheMate solution. When I can dump a pocket query into my iPhone Geocaching app, I'll finally be able to trim down to just my iPhone and Garmin.

[IBcrashen]

Pablo Mac, on Mar 8 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

I found 24 caches this weekend with the Geocaching app on my 2G iPhone and Garmin 60CSx, and I like it a lot. I have found how to save individual caches for when I'm out of service coverage (it happens a lot for me), but I'm looking for a way to save multiple caches at once. This functionality represents the last link in the chain holding me to my old but trusty Palm/CacheMate solution. When I can dump a pocket query into my iPhone Geocaching app, I'll finally be able to trim down to just my iPhone and Garmin.

igeocacher at the app store.
or maybe this link for ways.

[mtn-man]

Mr. Incredible!, on Mar 7 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

This may be off-topic for the direction this discussion has gone, but I think it fits with the original intent...

I like that I can "screen out" my previous finds from my cache searching, and the app also screens out my hides. But it gives me no way to see them (atleast that I can find...) if I want to...

I was doing some cache maintenance, without my GPSr, on some similarly names caches (Cache N' Go #1 - #2 - #3, etc) and I didn't remember which was which. It would have been nice to have been able to search for area caches and have mine pop up.

Log out.

[popop]

IBcrashen, on Mar 9 2009, 03:41 AM, said:

Pablo Mac, on Mar 8 2009, 08:30 PM, said:

I found 24 caches this weekend with the Geocaching app on my 2G iPhone and Garmin 60CSx, and I like it a lot. I have found how to save individual caches for when I'm out of service coverage (it happens a lot for me), but I'm looking for a way to save multiple caches at once. This functionality represents the last link in the chain holding me to my old but trusty Palm/CacheMate solution. When I can dump a pocket query into my iPhone Geocaching app, I'll finally be able to trim down to just my iPhone and Garmin.

igeocacher at the app store.
or maybe this link for ways.

IBcrashen's link is a good discussion - I've settled on the Air Sharing app as a replacement for my PDA/Cachemate. Been without the PDA for months now. Just iPhone and Garmin60C.

I find that most of the time I manage just fine by spending a few minutes while in good cell coverage saving a small group of caches I intend to hunt. In the event that I'm out of cell coverage for a good part of the day and I need more cache info than that I can just open Air Sharing for that.

Having said that, however, I would love to see the ability to drop a PQ into the geocaching app.

I like one person's idea of saving aerial photography screenshots to Air Sharing as well. When out on a long hike with no cell coverage, it's nice to have that overhead view.

[Pablo Mac]

popop, on Mar 9 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

… I would love to see the ability to drop a PQ into the geocaching app.

What popop said.

[currymac]

Lil Devil, on Mar 2 2009, 09:13 AM, said:

martingu, on Mar 2 2009, 02:50 AM, said:

... Why struggle with the iphone keyboard if you have to visit the same note again later at home anyway?

Precisely! Don't struggle with it. Just jot a few notes, then later when you're at home with a real keyboard, you can bring up your field notes and edit and expand each log before submitting it. Best of both worlds that way

I'm sure you worked hard to place your caches and would really love to hear glowing comments on them, but 99 percent of the time I am completely uninterested in writing a biography about a cache that I've found. I am solely and simply interested in logging the find and reporting if I took or left anything... and I definitely want to do it from my iPhone, and as soon as I find it, and in one SIMPLE step. That way it's done. No muss, no fuss.

[Pablo Mac]

currymac, on Mar 11 2009, 08:17 AM, said:

… 99 percent of the time I am completely uninterested in writing a biography about a cache that I've found. I am solely and simply interested in logging the find and reporting if I took or left anything...

Wow.

Many of us believe in the value of adding at least some bit of interesting info in most of our cache logs, if only in the spirit of giving back to the cache owner, as well as others who have yet to hunt those caches. A run of "TNLNSL" logs does nothing for a cache owner, or a cacher in the field looking for an extra nudge toward a find.

More "give" and less "take."

[Elric77]

Pablo Mac, on Mar 11 2009, 08:54 AM, said:

currymac, on Mar 11 2009, 08:17 AM, said:

… 99 percent of the time I am completely uninterested in writing a biography about a cache that I've found. I am solely and simply interested in logging the find and reporting if I took or left anything...

Wow.

Many of us believe in the value of adding at least some bit of interesting info in most of our cache logs, if only in the spirit of giving back to the cache owner, as well as others who have yet to hunt those caches. A run of "TNLNSL" logs does nothing for a cache owner, or a cacher in the field looking for an extra nudge toward a find.

More "give" and less "take."

And many more of us want to spend the day Geocaching and logging our finds. Not sitting at home at the computer.

And really, how many times can I write "Bugs were bad" or "Sunny day" in "detailed" logs? What more do you want than what we took and what we left?

When it comes down to it, I do not want to HAVE to come home and sit at a desk after an amazing day of Caching. So I think we should have the option.

[team_goobie]

Pablo Mac, on Mar 11 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

currymac, on Mar 11 2009, 08:17 AM, said:

… 99 percent of the time I am completely uninterested in writing a biography about a cache that I've found. I am solely and simply interested in logging the find and reporting if I took or left anything...

Wow.

Many of us believe in the value of adding at least some bit of interesting info in most of our cache logs, if only in the spirit of giving back to the cache owner, as well as others who have yet to hunt those caches. A run of "TNLNSL" logs does nothing for a cache owner, or a cacher in the field looking for an extra nudge toward a find.

More "give" and less "take."

Agreed there, but I still want to be able to log from within the Geocaching App. I don't think currymac's logs will differ much whether they post form their phone or their home computer (is that right currymac?). And I'd challenge anyone to look at my logs and tell me which ones were on the phone or on the computer. It's just how people log. It's not about the device. This little social engineering that is trying to make people write longer logs at home just does not fly.

[team_goobie]

Pablo Mac, on Mar 9 2009, 09:23 AM, said:

popop, on Mar 9 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

… I would love to see the ability to drop a PQ into the geocaching app.

What popop said.

Thirded. In the meantime there are other apps out there that handle PQ's. Not as "pretty" as Geocaching app, but functional.