hoyshnin Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sorry about the unclear title, I didn't know how to succinctly state this question. Basically what I'm wondering is how many feet are there between two coordinates where the only difference is .001? For example, how many feet are there between N 42 59.458 W 71 27.826 and N 42 59.458 W 71 27.827? After doing some searching, I found this webpage - http://boulter.com/gps/distance/ By putting in different coordinates, I found that a .001 difference in latitude (using the format above) seems to be equal to 4 feet, but a .001 difference in longitude seems to be 6 feet. Is this right? Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Depending on where you are on the globe it does vary some. For those 2 coordinates - your calc looks right. Quote Link to comment
+Gitchee-Gummee Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Yupper, it depends upon the latitude where you are currently standing, or talking about. Quote Link to comment
hoyshnin Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Depending on where you are on the globe it does vary some. For those 2 coordinates - your calc looks right. Hm, I guess it does vary according to where you are located, because if I try N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.641 and N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.642 The difference is 5 feet, not 4 feet. Interesting. But I guess a .001 difference will probably always be between 4-6 feet (longitude or latitude), right? Edited October 18, 2009 by hoyshnin Quote Link to comment
PastorJon Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 As you near the equator, your .001 longitude is worth much more then near the poles.... since longitude lines are not parallel. It seems to me that .001 worth of latitude should be nearly the same regardless of where you are on the earth. I don't know if that actually plays out in reality, or just in theory. I know that the globe isn't perfectly spherical, so that may not work. Quote Link to comment
+Cardinal Red Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) Depending on where you are on the globe it does vary some. For those 2 coordinates - your calc looks right. Hm, I guess it does vary according to where you are located, because if I try N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.641 and N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.642 The difference is 5 feet, not 4 feet. Interesting. But I guess a .001 difference will probably always be between 4-6 feet (longitude or latitude), right? Wrong. Latitude spacing will always be almost exactly 6 feet per .001'. Longitude spacing per .001' can vary in the range of zero (touching) to six feet. Equator = 0 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 0 = 1 1 times 6 = 6 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Pole (North or South) =90 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 90 = 0 0 times 6 = 0 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' At Latitude 60 Ddegees Cosine of 60 = .5 .5 times 6 = 3 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Get the idea? Edited October 18, 2009 by Cardinal Red Quote Link to comment
+OienLabs Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 (edited) For latitude .001 difference will always be about 6 ft. For latitude 0 .001 difference will be about 6 ft for longitude. Guess what it will be at the north pole! Cosinus(latitude) is your friend for longitude width. Edit: Puh this is not easy. Think it is right now. Edited October 18, 2009 by baø Quote Link to comment
hoyshnin Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Depending on where you are on the globe it does vary some. For those 2 coordinates - your calc looks right. Hm, I guess it does vary according to where you are located, because if I try N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.641 and N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.642 The difference is 5 feet, not 4 feet. Interesting. But I guess a .001 difference will probably always be between 4-6 feet (longitude or latitude), right? Wrong. Latitude spacing will always be almost exactly 6 feet per .001'. Longitude spacing per .001' can vary in the range of zero (touching) to six feet. Equator = 0 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 0 = 1 1 times 6 = 6 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Pole (North or South) =90 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 90 = 0 0 times 6 = 0 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' At Latitude 60 Ddegees Cosine of 60 = .5 .5 times 6 = 3 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Get the idea? Fascinating, thanks! Quote Link to comment
John E Cache Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 At the equator divide the number of feet in a nautical mile(6,076.12 ft) by 1000. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 See also http://www.markwell.us/geofaq.htm#Feet Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Here's how I describe it for field use (adults). If you stand and hold both arms straight out, the the distance from fingertip to finger tip is roughly .001 degrees. Adjust appropriately if you are significantly taller/shorter than average height. Quote Link to comment
+Winstonsdad Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Depending on where you are on the globe it does vary some. For those 2 coordinates - your calc looks right. Hm, I guess it does vary according to where you are located, because if I try N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.641 and N 34° 01.545 W 118° 25.642 The difference is 5 feet, not 4 feet. Interesting. But I guess a .001 difference will probably always be between 4-6 feet (longitude or latitude), right? Wrong. Latitude spacing will always be almost exactly 6 feet per .001'. Longitude spacing per .001' can vary in the range of zero (touching) to six feet. Equator = 0 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 0 = 1 1 times 6 = 6 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Pole (North or South) =90 Degrees Latitude Cosine of 90 = 0 0 times 6 = 0 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' At Latitude 60 Ddegees Cosine of 60 = .5 .5 times 6 = 3 feet of Longitude spacing per .001' Get the idea? I never knew that stuff they tried to teach me 30 something years ago had a practical application! Thanks for the education and reminder. Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If you think of the longitude lines as section of an orange, then it is pretty easy to visualize why the distance between longitude varies with the lattitude. How far apart are the sections of an orange? Depends on where in the section you measure. Quote Link to comment
+Markwell Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 See also http://www.markwell.us/geofaq.htm#Feet Yep - I answered this a LONG time ago... Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Here's how I describe it for field use (adults). If you stand and hold both arms straight out, the the distance from fingertip to finger tip is roughly .001 degrees. Adjust appropriately if you are significantly taller/shorter than average height. - I like this as an answer!!! Quote Link to comment
+Sky King 36 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you think of the longitude lines as section of an orange, then it is pretty easy to visualize why the distance between longitude varies with the lattitude. How far apart are the sections of an orange? Depends on where in the section you measure. Perfectly described. I still find people have trouble understanding why latitude and longitude vary differently. It is worth knowing what the longitude numbers are in your particular area. Latitude will always be one NAUTICAL mile (6,000 feet) per minute, and where I cache, longitude usually works out close enough to 4,500 feet per minute that I use that. So: Latitude (North-South): 0.001 = 6 feet 0.010 = 60 feet 0.100 = 600 feet 1.000 = 6,000 feet Longitude (East-West): 0.001 = 4.5 feet 0.010 = 45 feet 0.100 = 450 feet 1.000 = 4,500 feet This makes it easy to visualize your relative position on the ground if you don't have a GPS with a compass or moving map. "the cache is 90 feet east and 120 feet north of me" can be visualized pretty easily if you know which way is north. Quote Link to comment
+Capt. Bob Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 1 Minute of Latitude = 1 Nautical Mile 1 Nautical Mile = 6,076.1 Feet 1 Minute of Latitude = 6,076.1 Feet 1 Minute of Longitude = 6,076.1 Feet X Cos(Latitude) Example: 0.001 Minutes at N42°degrees Latitude 0.001 Minutes of Latitude = 0.001 X 6,076.1 = 6.076 Feet 0.001 Minutes of Longitude = 0.001 x 6,076.1 x Cos(42°) = 4.515 Feet Quote Link to comment
+SKILLET Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Here's how I describe it for field use (adults). If you stand and hold both arms straight out, the the distance from fingertip to finger tip is roughly .001 degrees. Adjust appropriately if you are significantly taller/shorter than average height. - I like this as an answer!!! sounds like the answer to me. Then again you could just put down your GPSr and start searching in a 15 foot radius Quote Link to comment
+Parknet Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Sounds like there is a puzzle cache in here somewhere! Quote Link to comment
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