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Posted 30 January 2010 - 04:57 PM

Just found my first letterbox puzzle cache and i'm a little confused as to how to read this. The cache gave me a long code to decypher and the box contained a lizardtoadz decypher coin.

This is what the paper said
http://img30.imagesh...p1010116am.jpg/.

My question is when it says gc.com uses a rot13 (rotated 13 spaces) does that mean to the left or the right.


Thank you in advance for your time,

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 04:59 PM

View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 30 2010, 07:57 PM, said:

Just found my first letterbox puzzle cache and i'm a little confused as to how to read this. The cache gave me a long code to decypher and the box contained a lizardtoadz decypher coin.

This is what the paper said
http://img30.imagesh...p1010116am.jpg/.

My question is when it says gc.com uses a rot13 (rotated 13 spaces) does that mean to the left or the right.


Thank you in advance for your time,

ScoutGopher


The idea for puzzles is for you to figure them out. If left doesn't work try right. I'm personally too stupid to deal with puzzle caches so I just ignore them.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 05:12 PM

View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 31 2010, 01:57 AM, said:

Just found my first letterbox puzzle cache and i'm a little confused as to how to read this. The cache gave me a long code to decypher and the box contained a lizardtoadz decypher coin.

This is what the paper said
http://img30.imagesh...p1010116am.jpg/.

My question is when it says gc.com uses a rot13 (rotated 13 spaces) does that mean to the left or the right.


Thank you in advance for your time,

ScoutGopher

Easy. It uses ROT24, instead of moving the letter by 13 digits, it uses 24 or just 2, depending which way you go.

From: hkxgugxpg.
You get: fivesevne.

h - 2 = f
k - 2 = i
...

The software CrypTool can do this for you in a very convenient way. There you have to enter the encrypted text and select Caesar for decryptiong. Don't forget to tell the programm to use 24 instead of 13.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 05:21 PM

View Postbriansnat, on Jan 30 2010, 04:59 PM, said:

View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 30 2010, 07:57 PM, said:

Just found my first letterbox puzzle cache and i'm a little confused as to how to read this. The cache gave me a long code to decypher and the box contained a lizardtoadz decypher coin.

This is what the paper said
http://img30.imagesh...p1010116am.jpg/.

My question is when it says gc.com uses a rot13 (rotated 13 spaces) does that mean to the left or the right.


Thank you in advance for your time,

ScoutGopher




The idea for puzzles is for you to figure them out. If left doesn't work try right. I'm personally too stupid to deal with puzzle caches so I just ignore them.


Yes i was simply asking what that code meant in reference to GC.com in no way was i asking anyone to solve the puzzle for me. I was wondering if the ROT13 had any special reference thats all.



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View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 31 2010, 01:57 AM, said:

Just found my first letterbox puzzle cache and i'm a little confused as to how to read this. The cache gave me a long code to decypher and the box contained a lizardtoadz decypher coin.

This is what the paper said
http://img30.imagesh...p1010116am.jpg/.

My question is when it says gc.com uses a rot13 (rotated 13 spaces) does that mean to the left or the right.


Thank you in advance for your time,

ScoutGopher

Easy. It uses ROT24, instead of moving the letter by 13 digits, it uses 24 or just 2, depending which way you go.

From: hkxgugxpg.
You get: fivesevne.

h - 2 = f
k - 2 = i
...

The software CrypTool can do this for you in a very convenient way. There you have to enter the encrypted text and select Caesar for decryptiong. Don't forget to tell the programm to use 24 instead of 13.

GermanSailor



Thank you for the site this helped tremendously and i had no idea what Caesar encrypting was before this so thank you. I am going to go try this now. Thanks for the help.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 06:48 PM

Heres a picture of the decypher coin in the cache. I really would like to pick one of these up myself. Could someone point me to a site i can buy one.

http://img534.images...62/p1010114.jpg

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 06:48 PM

ROT13 is used because the english alphabet has 26 letters in it. Half would be 13 so it doesn't make any difference which direction you move in.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 09:02 PM

View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 30 2010, 06:48 PM, said:

Heres a picture of the decypher coin in the cache. I really would like to pick one of these up myself. Could someone point me to a site i can buy one.

http://img534.images...62/p1010114.jpg

From The Caching Place. I have one and I have purchased many coins from them.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:43 AM

View PostScoutGopher, on Jan 31 2010, 02:21 AM, said:

I was wondering if the ROT13 had any special reference thats all.
Rotate by 13 places

With ROT13 it doesn't matter which way, with the other Caesar Codes you have to figure out which way to count.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:12 AM

View Postwebscouter., on Jan 30 2010, 07:48 PM, said:

ROT13 is used because the english alphabet has 26 letters in it. Half would be 13 so it doesn't make any difference which direction you move in.


ROT13 also has some historical significance. Long before the web existed, there were online forums on Usenet. Built into most of the clients for accessing Usenet groups was the ability to encrypt/decrypt messages posted in newsgroups (typically used for posting spoilers about computer games). When using "rn" or "trn" (Threaded Read News) typing an "x" would encrypt/decrypt text. The encryption/description was done using Rot13. When David Ulmer placed the very first geocache, he posted a message about it on a usenet group about satellite navigation.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 10:33 AM

View PostNYPaddleCacher, on Jan 31 2010, 08:12 AM, said:

ROT13 also has some historical significance. Long before the web existed, there were online forums on Usenet. Built into most of the clients for accessing Usenet groups was the ability to encrypt/decrypt messages posted in newsgroups (typically used for posting spoilers about computer games). When using "rn" or "trn" (Threaded Read News) typing an "x" would encrypt/decrypt text. The encryption/description was done using Rot13. When David Ulmer placed the very first geocache, he posted a message about it on a usenet group about satellite navigation.

Actually it predates Usenet. Many BBS readers (remember those?) also had ROT13 encoding built in for the same reasons.

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