knowschad, on 16 April 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:
What is the maximum penalty for attaching one to a light post?
The same as attaching one to a USPS box. $0.00
If you can show me a case where someone paid a higher fine for sticking a magnetic hide-a-key to a R2D2 mailbox, I'll retract that.
Nick - Cacher, on 16 April 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:
Isn't that box property of the electric company?
If so, you'd need to get permission from them, not the park it resides in.
But having seen plenty of parking lot lamp posts and ugly power boxes in my lifetime, why not show me the actual park itself? I'm not afraid of burning the occasional calorie.
Mr.Yuck, on 16 April 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:
From what I have seen, it is illegal to hide caches on USPS boxes
Just because Groundspeak tells their Reviewers to archive any caches found on USPS property, doesn't mean that the placement itself was a criminal act.
J the Goat, on 16 April 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:
Glenn, on 15 April 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:
AZcachemeister, on 15 April 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:
Chokecherry, on 15 April 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:
Glenn, on 15 April 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:
SwineFlew, on 15 April 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:
Found one under a USPS drop off box yesterday. A big no-no.
USPS boxes are private property of the USPS.
The penalty for tampering with a postal mail collection device is a fine of $20,000 and one year in FEDERAL prison. Attaching any unapproved device to the mailbox is tampering with the mailbox.
Unlikely that you would get the maximum penalty just for hiding a cache, but I don't want to be a test case.
BTW, the penalty extends to anyone who knows about the 'device' but didn't report it, and you just signed a logbook to prove you were there?
For some reason I read that as UPS and not USPS.
I believe that the key word in that law is tampering. Tampering
is defined as "to render something harmful or dangerous by altering its structure or composition". Using that definition of tampering I don't see how attaching a cache to a USPS mailbox makes it harmful or dangerous.
I took a look at USC 18 USC 1705
. Which is what I assume that you are referring to. I'll quote it here.
"Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces
or destroys any mail deposited therein, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
I don't see anything about attaching unproved devices being considered tampering. However I agree. I wouldn't want to be the test case.
I think it's this part right here.
I think you might have bolded the wrong part. Either that, or my monitor is messing up again. From here it looks like you bolded the word "defaces". Since we all know that defacing means to mar the appearance of, and/or to injure by effacing significant details, obviously sticking a magnet onto one would not fit the elements.