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#151 User is offline   thebruce0 

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P

This post has been edited by thebruce0: 12 December 2012 - 07:47 AM


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:50 AM

It's too gloomy. And the DNFs have gone from blue to grey which makes me feel bluer!!

Please change back - it wasn't broke, so didn't need fixed, imho.

:o

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:54 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P


I like these much better. Good job.
I'd leave the "Note Posted" icon square though, so it looks less like the "Log your visit" icon. I think the "Note Posted" icon is a square, so as to look like a Post-it ® note.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:57 AM

View PostUMainah, on 12 December 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

I like these much better. Good job.
I'd leave the "Note Posted" icon square though, so it looks less like the "Log your visit" icon. I think the "Note Posted" icon is a square, so as to look like a Post-it note.

Thanks, and yeah that's reasonable. The note icon size wasn't a biggy, just a minor adjustment I dropped in on a whim :) just thought the note icon was really big, using the entire icon size, like no other icon does. Maybe square but a couple of pixels smaller all around? *shrug*

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:00 AM

To bad, don't like the new icons.. i miss the color :mad:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:01 AM

There is nothing wrong with the new icons, after a month or so everyone will be used to it. It only indicates that Groundspeak seems to be trying to intentionally annoy the small segment of cachers who have associated OCDs. :P

This post has been edited by 4wheelin_fool: 12 December 2012 - 08:14 AM


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:23 AM

View Post4wheelin_fool, on 12 December 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

There is nothing wrong with the new icons, after a month or so everyone will be used to it. It only indicates that Groundspeak seems to be trying to intentionally annoy the small segment of cachers who have associated OCDs. :P

I agree with you for most part.
Most of the post here are just knee-jerk reaction to something new and differetn. Change will always stir up frustration.
Regardless of that there are some flaws in the new system that should be fixed, such as the PMO icon looking like a coin. Also the R/G colorblind issue should be corrected. Now would be a good time to fix them instead of waiting until everyone has adjusted to the new icons.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:50 AM

View PostGeekinTX, on 12 December 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

I've never seen such a bunch of whiny babies in my life (and I used to teach kindergarten).

Change is good. Embrace it and quite complaining. Geesh.


Change is good...sometimes.

Some people have found minor issues with the new icons, thus change is not necessarily good for those people.

Change takes effort, effort that might be better spent changing something that we've actually asked for.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:00 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P


Awesome set. I really like these.

This post has been edited by gustav129: 12 December 2012 - 10:20 AM


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:08 AM

Maybe they decided on all the grey icons to save disk space as the grey icons are less intricate. What's next, removing and no longer allowing images (photos)?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

View Posthoteltwo, on 12 December 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Maybe they decided on all the grey icons to save disk space as the grey icons are less intricate. What's next, removing and no longer allowing images (photos)?

It really doesn't... it's more about number of colours and how often the pixels change than hue of the colours. The simplistic/flat-ish design of their new icons is good (less gradient/shading), but grey itself isn't really helpful to reducing file size.

eta: And at a fraction of 1KB each, with browser caching of the images allowed, the icons themselves aren't really a bandwidth hog, even with (a generous) million active users =P

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

View Posthoteltwo, on 12 December 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Maybe they decided on all the grey icons to save disk space as the grey icons are less intricate. What's next, removing and no longer allowing images (photos)?

It really doesn't... it's more about number of colours and how often the pixels change than hue of the colours. The simplistic/flat-ish design of their new icons is good (less gradient/shading), but grey itself isn't really helpful to reducing file size.

eta: And at a fraction of 1KB each, with browser caching of the images allowed, the icons themselves aren't really a bandwidth hog, even with (a generous) million active users =P


If you haven't noticed, the whole site has become lower contrast. The old icons were readily recognizable for this sharp, high contrast designs. Probably too alarming to some mild mannered folk at the lily pad so this change comes about. Next the Emoticons will be reduced in contrast because they are too striking in appearance.

Within a few years the entire site will be done in soft shades of pastels.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:51 AM

View PostNYPaddleCacher, on 12 December 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:


Change takes effort, effort that might be better spent changing something that we've actually asked for.


Yes. +562.78

I was just looking at an event page and all those grey Will Attend envelopes just make me sad.

In computer land, grey is the colour of things that aren't available to you, that are unaccessible, like a software add-on you didn't have the money to get.

PLEASE bring back the colour to the icons.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:01 AM

Change, for the sake of change, is not necessarily progress. Change without explanation is often frustrating.
Thus far, I'm not liking this.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:12 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P


Wow looking good!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

View PostGeekinTX, on 12 December 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

I've never seen such a bunch of whiny babies in my life (and I used to teach kindergarten).

Change is good. Embrace it and quite complaining. Geesh.


Did you teach those children that folks who don't agree with your opinion are "whiny babies"?

And that they should ridicule someone for stating their opinion?

How rude. Sheesh.




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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P



That's much, much, better! 2 thumbs up!

Can you work your magic on the trackable icons now? The new ones suck.





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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:23 AM

View PostPup Patrol, on 12 December 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

That's much, much, better! 2 thumbs up!

Can you work your magic on the trackable icons now? The new ones suck.



Thanks... though, I actually don't mind the trackable icons :P heh
The (tiny) symbols next to the bug at least actually make sense, both by shape and colour... though Posted Image sort of makes me think of a CITO

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:34 AM

View PostPup Patrol, on 12 December 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image

Themes:
RED - problems with a cache/negative cache availability
GREEN - related to cache availability/location
BLUE - Attention grabbing (DNF will of course be the most common, and won't appear alongside event announcements)
YELLOW - FIND COUNT INCREASERS (Finds, Attends, Webcams)
GREY - Informational

Other notes:
Will attend: used a 2nd shade to visually make it pop away from notes. Note & Will attend shapes are sufficiently different, imo. And will attend really is just a form of note as it serves no other purpose.
Maintenance done: Added a checkmark to separate the shape from the NM icon
Needs archival: It's really an informational note, but provides a potential alert to finders, so added the RED exclamation over a grey Archival icon. It's not yet archived, but it should be (or needs reviewer attention)
Coordinates altered: changed the shape to better imply motion, no need for a large grey block
Note posted: shrunk the width a bit to feel more like a sheet of paper than .. a square?
Reviewer note: adjusted size to match the grey note (dog ear is already a good 'note' theme)

Those seem, to me, to be a little more intuitive, by shape and by colour. For the most part, the new log icons seem fine, there were just a few things that just didn't feel right.

And that DNF should not be grey. :P



That's much, much, better! 2 thumbs up!

Can you work your magic on the trackable icons now? The new ones suck.





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Yes, much better. And my request for you would be to change the PQ icons. That page especially is too gray, and that's where I spend most of my time.

And, I just noticed, if you change the reds to orange then we have a Geocaching color scheme going on.

This post has been edited by Academy61: 12 December 2012 - 10:37 AM


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:40 AM

View PostJJnTJ, on 12 December 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

While I'm mostly indifferent to the changes (didn't the D/T stars used to be red?), it seems like another instance of TPTB changing the things they want to while ignoring the changes we want. As illustrated in my signature.

No matter how furiously we bang away at our keyboards, no matter how viciously we stab at our little Jeremy voodoo dolls, they know we're not going anywhere with our $30/year. The focus remains on coaxing $30/year out of the ever-increasing crop of new players.

Your Venn diagram has an error. You show a slight overlap between what Ground speak works on and what users want. In reality they are separate entities.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

View Postjholly, on 12 December 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:


Your Venn diagram has an error. You show a slight overlap between what Ground speak works on and what users want. In reality they are separate entities.


:laughing: :anibad:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:51 AM

View PostUMainah, on 12 December 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

View PostNeverSummer, on 11 December 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

View PostThe A-Team, on 11 December 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

For anyone wondering what the new icons mean, I whipped up this list.

Add these ones, which will sneak under the radar:
(removed since I exeeded my image limit in a single post)

Some more new icons for the list:
...

My intention wasn't to detail every single change to the website, but just to clarify the meaning of the cache and trackable log type icons, which is primarily what is being discussed here.

FWIW, I really like thebruce0's proposed set of icons, and he has demonstrated what I was talking about in some of my earlier posts. Within less than a day, a user has already produced a much better solution. If Groundspeak had asked for improvements/suggestions relating to a new set of icons before making the change, they could have had a much better end-result without all the headache.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

View PostHarry Dolphin, on 11 December 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

And Groundspeak actually pays people for this?!? Change for the sake of change is seldom a good idea. This is a prime example. Can we get the generic icons back?

OMG. scrolling the thread and hit Harry's post and I see the line that I was actually thinking. They pay people for this ? It is endless tweaking . And Harry is right. Start doing Harry Dolphin Puzzle Caches and you start thinking like him. Scary. :)

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:00 AM

View PostThe A-Team, on 12 December 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

FWIW, I really like thebruce0's proposed set of icons, and he has demonstrated what I was talking about in some of my earlier posts. Within less than a day, a user has already produced a much better solution. If Groundspeak had asked for improvements/suggestions relating to a new set of icons before making the change, they could have had a much better end-result without all the headache.


Exactamundo.




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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

I didn't like this new changes.
Possible variant from "thebruce0" is better, but old icons is the best.
Why don't you prefer to correct errors and does not improve the promotion of languages ​​and other subjects to improve ...

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:05 AM

thebruce0 should be hired by Groundspeak!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:14 AM

View PostThe_Incredibles_, on 12 December 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

thebruce0 should be hired by Groundspeak!

+1

Additionally, let's go the whole hog. Add hiDPI icons for enhanced view on "Retina"-Displays!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
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This is a nice set of icons.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

View Postteamvoyagr, on 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
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This is a nice set of icons.


The top half sure looks Christmas-y!

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:18 PM

def like the icons by thebruce0
Not sure what the new icons look like I use a tampermonkey script that changes them so they all show up as broken links right now untill the script gets updated I guess

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:19 PM

View PostGeekinTX, on 12 December 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

I've never seen such a bunch of whiny babies in my life (and I used to teach kindergarten).

Change is good. Embrace it and quite complaining. Geesh.


I'll whine all I want. I have a freaking 22" LCD monitor and I'm looking at little grey blobs that hurt my eyes, and I'm paying for it to boot. If the subject doesn't interest you, go post carp in some other one, because some of us have a very serious problem distinguishing what the icons are, especially the grey ones. I have glasses for reading and glasses for long distance. Do I need to get a new pair made just for geocaching.com icon recognition?

When the page that a web site is presenting hurts their customer's eyes, they have a problem. If whining about it gets their attention, then that's what I'll do.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

View Post4wheelin_fool, on 12 December 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

There is nothing wrong with the new icons, after a month or so everyone will be used to it. It only indicates that Groundspeak seems to be trying to intentionally annoy the small segment of cachers who have associated OCDs. :P


Having a desire to be able to read and understand a web page is OCD?
Guess I'll run out and ask my doctor for some anti-psychotics.

Or maybe Groundspeak can send all of us some of those special glasses like they do at the 3D movies.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

View Postteamvoyagr, on 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
Posted Image


This is a nice set of icons.

Agreed. Very nice.
It shouldn't be too difficult for them to use yours if you let them.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:43 PM

View PostMooseJawSpruce, on 12 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

View Postteamvoyagr, on 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
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This is a nice set of icons.

Agreed. Very nice.
It shouldn't be too difficult for them to use yours if you let them.


Yes, this is logical. Could GS take a look at that? Consider? Use?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:54 PM

View PostDon_J, on 12 December 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

View PostGeekinTX, on 12 December 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

I've never seen such a bunch of whiny babies in my life (and I used to teach kindergarten).

Change is good. Embrace it and quite complaining. Geesh.


I'll whine all I want. I have a freaking 22" LCD monitor and I'm looking at little grey blobs that hurt my eyes, and I'm paying for it to boot. If the subject doesn't interest you, go post carp in some other one, because some of us have a very serious problem distinguishing what the icons are, especially the grey ones. I have glasses for reading and glasses for long distance. Do I need to get a new pair made just for geocaching.com icon recognition?

When the page that a web site is presenting hurts their customer's eyes, they have a problem. If whining about it gets their attention, then that's what I'll do.


:antenna: Bravo

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

View PostMooseJawSpruce, on 12 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Agreed. Very nice.
It shouldn't be too difficult for them to use yours if you let them.

Thanks, and yeah they're more than welcome to. Though I'd suggest re-creation as that image was a rough mockup; the hues don't all match and some smilies are just resized and could be cleaned up... but I'd certainly not be against them adopting the changes (that was the hope after all ;) )

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:05 PM

In the IT business, we call this "a solution in search of a problem"

Hopefully someone familiar with Greasemonkey will script an icon replacement routine.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:07 PM

View Postpuczmeloun, on 12 December 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

View PostMooseJawSpruce, on 12 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

View Postteamvoyagr, on 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
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This is a nice set of icons.

Agreed. Very nice.
It shouldn't be too difficult for them to use yours if you let them.


Yes, this is logical. Could GS take a look at that? Consider? Use?



The thing is, a proposed list of new icons should have been posted in the forums, and suggested revisions like the list theBruce0 made could have been suggested, all *before* they were implemented. For some odd reason, GS seems to like to surprise it's users with new developments rather than trying to engage it's user community in the design process.

BTW, all traces of the old icons will be removed in a week. :ph34r:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:18 PM

After going back and looking at the new icons again, I have to admit that even to my sub-40-yr-old eyes they grey ones are fuzzy against the off-white of the forum background. I can imagine they must be really hard to read for some of you old coots. :lol:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

View PostCastle Mischief, on 12 December 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

After going back and looking at the new icons again, I have to admit that even to my sub-40-yr-old eyes they grey ones are fuzzy against the off-white of the forum background. I can't imagine they must be really hard to read for some of you old coots. :lol:


As a 50+ year old coot I gotta tell ya. I am a-squinting at 'em. Trying to figure out what they are and what they are trying to tell me. If the goal was to confuse me, it's working.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

And yep, the PQ page is awful now... it's like the design is implying some kind of anti-colour prejudice or something. There really doesn't seem like any good reason to force those prominent grey icons throughout the layout there... it's like in-your-face grey, when colour seems most natural.
I mean really, who uses grey lightning bolts? Anywhere? Doesn't feel right at all...

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:32 PM

I could see how all this grey would be difficult for some people to see. Maybe Groundspeak doesn't wanter older folks playing the game. <_<

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:01 PM

One thing I do like are the dates for the "Last Logged" for my Trackables are on bold blue box on my profile. I looked there because there's thread about a bunch of bogus logs with no email notifications.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:27 PM

View PostDragonsWest, on 12 December 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

...

Within a few years the entire site will be done in soft shades of pastels.


...kind of like how the forums look now. bland. i remember when the new forum look was rolled out and folks had a fit. didn't do any good. what the PTB want is what they will get and it matters not a whit what people say. remember, the number of people reading and commenting on the forums is minute compared to the overall number of cachers. who, if they don't like the icons probably wouldn't say anything and just go about the business of finding caches..

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:30 PM

View PostJJnTJ, on 12 December 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

No matter how furiously we bang away at our keyboards, no matter how viciously we stab at our little Jeremy voodoo dolls, they know we're not going anywhere with our $30/year. The focus remains on coaxing $30/year out of the ever-increasing crop of new players.


BINGO!

:(

Hey, wait a minute! :o
These forum emoticons are stale and uninteresting.

Could we get them all redesigned too?

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

View PostThe_Incredibles_, on 11 December 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

I suggest we all refuse to log any more DNFs until they give us the blue back.

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I will not be logging any more DNFs (and may have to go back and change the ones I've logged to notes.) That Blackface icon is racist, and I do not want to be associated with racism.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

View PostNYPaddleCacher, on 12 December 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

View Postpuczmeloun, on 12 December 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

View PostMooseJawSpruce, on 12 December 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

View Postteamvoyagr, on 12 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

View Postthebruce0, on 12 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

A few suggestions I whipped up, thanks to The A-Team's convenient list...
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This is a nice set of icons.

Agreed. Very nice.
It shouldn't be too difficult for them to use yours if you let them.


Yes, this is logical. Could GS take a look at that? Consider? Use?



The thing is, a proposed list of new icons should have been posted in the forums, and suggested revisions like the list theBruce0 made could have been suggested, all *before* they were implemented. For some odd reason, GS seems to like to surprise it's users with new developments rather than trying to engage it's user community in the design process.

BTW, all traces of the old icons will be removed in a week. :ph34r:

Now that is wonderful. Makes sense for each log/icon type. Good sizes, nice accent colors, and clearly shows what it is that the log was/is. If applied to coins/pubs in a similar way, this is a VAST improvement over what was dumped on us.

So, I hope TPTB are listening. If not, this needs to get emailed to them ASAP for review.

This is what collaboration looks like, Groundspeak. Take some time to get feedback on a beta version, and the feedback can make a stronger product.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

View PostNYPaddleCacher, on 12 December 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:


The thing is, a proposed list of new icons should have been posted in the forums, and suggested revisions like the list theBruce0 made could have been suggested, all *before* they were implemented. For some odd reason, GS seems to like to surprise it's users with new developments rather than trying to engage it's user community in the design process.

BTW, all traces of the old icons will be removed in a week. :ph34r:


While I don't like the new icons much either but did Coca-Cola engage it's "community" before changing the recipe? Or Microsoft before changing Windows XP -> Vista -> Windows 7 -> Windows 8? or any number of other companies making changes to their products? Sometimes it seems we expect more from GS than we expect from other companies.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

View PostHarry Dolphin, on 12 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

That Blackface icon is racist
Really? Are the yellow face icons racist too? :unsure: How about the red face icon? :wub: And are the green face icons somehow offensive to anyone? :yikes: And isn't the violin associated with the music of the Imperialist West? :signalviolin:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostniraD, on 12 December 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostHarry Dolphin, on 12 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

That Blackface icon is racist
Really? Are the yellow face icons racist too? :unsure: How about the red face icon? :wub: And are the green face icons somehow offensive to anyone? :yikes: And isn't the violin associated with the music of the Imperialist West? :signalviolin:


Sorry that you have never studied history and culture. Try it sometime. Maybe they'll put up a swastika icon next?

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