Has anyone ever happened upon their worst nightmare?

October 18, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Phoebe's parents:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris&Cindy:
Originally posted by Snoogans:
Originally posted by Chris&Cindy:

Worst fear...Rosie O'Donald naked, (with her ARMED guards).

AAAAAaahhhhh!!!! My freakin minds eye!

Sngans

================================================

Um, I went to college with Rosie O'Donnell (I think that's the spelling), and lived a couple of doors down from her in the dorm. So, um, I probably did see her naked at some point. But I've blocked it out.

C

[This message was edited by Phoebe's parents on August 26, 2003 at 01:59 PM.]

Respectfully, I'd have lied about that!

October 18, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Zoraima:
Hi Cottingham:

Not that I closely examine what people are doing in their cars, but there are some places you pull into and people are just sitting there, staring at the woods ahead of them. Not looking at anything or reading or doing anything... Makes me wonder what they're doing there... As I say, I have a vivid imagination... In my mind, they're waiting to follow someone into the woods and...well... I'll stop there...

You aren't alone (so to speak ) I have done all of my searching either alone or with my 13 y/o son. (No great protection there! LOL) After reading this thread, I think that I will consider taking something with me. Mace? .45? tazer gun? Hm-m-m-m . . . BTW, I think you are wise to be cautious. And many female victims say that they would have been spared if they had only listened to their gut instincts! Best to you, and may we all be safe.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. --Galadriel, "The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship Of the Ring"

Piratess

October 18, 2003

Originally posted by Jamie Z:
The most scared I've ever been in the woods happened a few years ago...

Great post, Jamie, but I can't believe that no one ever asked you what YOU were doing in the woods at that hour!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

Piratess

5k · October 18, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Piratess:
Jamie, but I can't believe that no one ever asked you what YOU were doing in the woods at that hour!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

We were just glad that the truck was not someone asking us what we were doing. I was imagining some shotgun-toting property owner. Luckily, it was just a couple of drunks.

Jamie

1.9k · October 19, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by TEAM 360:
I don't want to turn this into a gun thread.

heh, me and my 44mag will keep on caching nice and safe

Now where did I set my GPS??? planetrobert.net

October 19, 2003

Jamie, I was not clear with my post. I meant that I was surprised that no one in the forum had asked you what you were doing out there! Am I the only curious one on here??

Piratess

5k · October 19, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Piratess:
I meant that I was surprised that no one in the forum had asked you what you were doing out there!

Oh.. heh. I guess I never considered that.

Well, my buddy had run across the place a few days before and wanted to show me. Plus with two of us, we felt more comfortable going into the abandonded cabins.

Jamie

October 20, 2003

Servman and I did a cache last year at night. We had to hike about 1/2 mile. I had a small flashlight and my tritium compass. We were walking pretty close to a river but the trail disappeared on us and we had to keep going straight.

Having spent 5 years as a reservist and having done many a night patrol, I wasn't worried about using my flashlight but since I was dressed in all black (just happened that way, not intentional), Servman kept losing sight of me.

To help Servman keep me in sight I hung my compass open over my shoulder. Anyways, I stopped to wait for him and was looking around when I looked up at this tree right beside me.

Up until this point I was perfectly fine in the woods in the pitch dark but this tree was silouetted against the sky and the freaking thing looked like some sort of devil!!! It was a tree trunk snapped off about 10 feet up and it had horns and eyes and everything! I know it sounds slilly but it freaked me out and after that I wished I was back in the army patrolling with 30 guys, each of us with an assault rifle!

Needless to say, servman and I found the cache but I really didn't feel calm again until we got back to the car... stupid tree!

Rob

Mobile Cache Command

October 20, 2003

Typically with a strange dog, do not make direct eye contact and do not smile! Dogs do not see a smile, all they see is teeth and a challenge with eye contact. Do not run away since dogs love to chase and hunt. Turn sideways (you are not as large or as formidable looking) and slowly walk away. Most dogs will not see you as a challenge or an aggressor in this situation.

October 20, 2003

My hubby had planned a trip to whisk me away for our 20th anniversary and didn't tell me where we were going except to Geocache! I was thrilled! He planned everything carefully, down to the romantic B&B we stayed at. One cache was located near a park. Safe enough, we thought. He even brought boots for both of since he watched the weather and knew it had been raining here. We started out and found ourselves goig slilghtly away from the park, and into a wooded area. The woods got denser and the ground more wet, but onward we went since we're die hards! Well, the water got deeper until we were in up to over our calves. It was funny when we got into some very thick rainforest-like growth from many trees and they had leeches hanging in them! The best part was when it stated to thuder and lightening and we were in nearly knee deep water! We decided to try to get out and thought we were taking the more direct path to dry land and the water just got deeper. Finally when it was to the top of my boots we decided to take the long way out, teh way we came in. When we got back to the park, we got some strange looks as everyone was dashing for cover. We were soaked and had leeches on us. before we got back in the car, we checked each other over. I found one on top of my husband's wallet in his back pocket! You know, that's one of the best trips we ever had, we laughed all the way. Our friends teased my husband for a nice anniversary present. Most people have not found this cache but a couple did. We still wonder how they did it.

2.3k · October 27, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Thrill Seekers:
My hubby had planned a trip to whisk me away for our 20th anniversary and didn't tell me where we were going except to Geocache! I was thrilled! He planned everything carefully, down to the romantic B&B we stayed at. One cache was located near a park. Safe enough, we thought. He even brought boots for both of since he watched the weather and knew it had been raining here. We started out and found ourselves goig slilghtly away from the park, and into a wooded area. The woods got denser and the ground more wet, but onward we went since we're die hards! Well, the water got deeper until we were in up to over our calves. It was funny when we got into some very thick rainforest-like growth from many trees and they had leeches hanging in them! The best part was when it stated to thuder and lightening and we were in nearly knee deep water! We decided to try to get out and thought we were taking the more direct path to dry land and the water just got deeper. Finally when it was to the top of my boots we decided to take the long way out, teh way we came in. When we got back to the park, we got some strange looks as everyone was dashing for cover. We were soaked and had leeches on us. before we got back in the car, we checked each other over. I found one on top of my husband's wallet in his back pocket! You know, that's one of the best trips we ever had, we laughed all the way. Our friends teased my husband for a nice anniversary present. Most people have not found this cache but a couple did. We still wonder how they did it.

LOL, my wife would STILL be shrieking at the top of her lungs if she had a leech! (Well, besides me, that is)

Joel (joefrog)

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

October 27, 2003

Haven't run into my worst nightmare yet, but I have to agree with the previous posts... If your that edgy, shouldn't be carrying a gun. They are for last resorts, not supposed to be first thing you go for.

October 28, 2003

I think I discovered what would be my worst nightmare when I was out geocaching the other day. I was in an Indiana state park, where the privies are the deep-hole-in-the-ground kind. As I sat down, the awful thought came to me: "What if my GPS device falls out of my pocket and into this hole?"

Piratess

2.3k · October 28, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Piratess (See my GC patches? :-):
I think I discovered what would be my worst nightmare when I was out geocaching the other day. I was in an Indiana state park, where the privies are the deep-hole-in-the-ground kind. As I sat down, the awful thought came to me: "What if my GPS device falls out of my pocket and into this hole?"

Piratess

That's where you take your purse or wallet and toss it down the hole, too. That way you can say "You didn't think I was going down there JUST for my GPS, did you?"

Joel (joefrog)

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

October 28, 2003

Thanks, JoeFrog. I haven't laughed aloud that hard for a long time.

. . . . still laughing . . . .

Piratess

October 28, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Piratess As I sat down, the awful thought came to me: "What if my GPS device falls out of my pocket and into this hole?"

Piratess

Well if you clipped a TB tag to it- you could post the coodinates and wait for someone to log it in-- (SO TO SPEAK).

Anyone else have a TB tag on their GPS, in case it gets found by someone?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THIS is the PUBLIC face of Geocaching, when someone learns of the sport this is where they come to

learn more, what are YOU showing them?

http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists

October 29, 2003

My friend Mike and I were looking for the Juniper Canyon cache this last weekend. While walking through the brush, a “dead” smell starting getting really bad. And, we’re talking a gag-maggot smell here! Found the source: a dead cow. It’s nothing more than a bag of bones (literally) in its skin. There are big holes in it where you can see its skeleton. GAG!!

Another time, and it was pitch dark this time, I was walking out in the thick woods. Suddenly, my flashlight just didn’t seem to be sending out any light despite being lit up in the front of it. I’d look into it, see that it’s bright enough, then aim it forward. It was as if I was shining it into a black hole. I’m standing there somewhat confused when the “black hole” starting moving… I was only 2 feet away from a pure black cow, and the jet-black fur was absorbing just about every proton of light. I back-peddled about 25 feet before realizing it was just that – a cow!

As far as weaponry, I just carry a big walking stick. It’s indispensable when walking on steep side hills, or testing water depth. It’s great for flipping rattlesnakes out of my path too. I’ve been known to pack a Colt Commander .45 ACP at times, but usually not when geocaching. I’m never worried about animals, and have spent ½ my life in the woods. It’s the two-legged variety of animals that causes me concern these days though. There’s more and more clandestine marijuana patches growing in the woods, and the “gardeners” can be violent people. Thankfully, the illegal patches are usually far off the beaten path.

I’ve seen bear enough times, and if you stand your ground they’ll move on… if they see you at all, most bears are pretty myopic. I’ve slinked back into the woods while never being seen by the bear. I wouldn’t test that theory by getting between a mother bear and her cub, but for a foraging bear, they’re generally too lazy. If he stands up, it’s not aggression, it’s his lack of eyesight, and he’s trying to see what you are. Beware though if it’s guarding it’s food cache, back away while facing him with eye contact even if he rushes you. He will think you are trying to horn in on his cache and run you off. But, never, NEVER just turn around and run, as this will make you out as prey in his primitive mind, and you’ll end up added to his food cache. Bears may look lumbering, but they can run twice as fast as a man.

Rattlesnakes: Snakes have no ears or hearing, so walk HEAVY. They can feel you through the ground, and move away before you ever get there. The only times I’ve even came up on rattlers is either when walking light in tennis shoes, or crawling around a rock unexpectedly. (as far as the snake is concerned) If he’s rattling, that’s a warning… if you back away, he’ll calm down. Note that a rattler’s rattles sounds much more like a high-pressure air hose leak than any baby rattles, and the louder it gets, the more nervous the snake. HE will move away and hide when HE thinks it’s safe; and will NOT pursue you! They are usually docile creatures, but when rattling, they are in a defensive mode and scared to death, so move SLOWLY. Read the above statements about guns… his fangs are his 9mm Glock; so don’t rattle him. Sorry… pun intended. J

Adondo

October 29, 2003

You are all afraid of things that are super rare. I fear nothing and am not armed. An armed person is a loaded weapon- an unarmed, cautious person is not going to flip out and kill whatever scares them. I prefer to use my intuitive sense of danger, and my ability to get away smartly, instead of a weapon.

Weapons are for the weak.

Unless were talking about the Chupacabra. Then I want the biggest gun/sword in the world.

Mf

I¦like¦nachos¦&¦I¦miss¦Mr.¦John¦Cash.

got¦coordintes?¦¦Check¦this¦stuff¦out:¦http://www.esg.montana.edu/gl/usa1d.html

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/AdvFind.aspx

http://www.geocities.com/mfrenchy2002/GEO.html

see¦GCGX7T

October 29, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Johnny¦Cache,¦Live¦and¦in¦Color!:
I fear nothing and am not armed. An armed person is a loaded weapon- an unarmed, cautious person is not going to flip out and kill whatever scares them. I prefer to use my intuitive sense of danger, and my ability to get away smartly, instead of a weapon.

Weapons are for the weak.

WELL!

I do not pack in public, but that doesn't mean there is nothing to fear. NORMAL people do not encounter life threatening danger that often. If they do, then a change of environment is in order.

Your "lack of fear" is a lack of situational awareness. You may find yourself in deep Kimshee one day and be wondering where your intuition let you down. Although it is prudent to have an OUT at all times, sometimes the onus is on us to MAKE a way out, because others have denied us other options. I do not promote carrying a firearm, but there is a time and a place for everything, and FEAR is a survival instinct, more accurate than "Intuition".

If I find a feeling of fear has me, I pay attention, and use my out. (Being Right is not the justifiation for being DEAD right.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THIS is the PUBLIC face of Geocaching, when someone learns of the sport this is where they come to

learn more, what are YOU showing them?

http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

International Black Sheep Society of Genealogist

3k · October 30, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Bo Peep & The Sheep:
NORMAL people do not encounter life threatening danger that often.

That's very strange wording. What is your definition of "NORMAL?"

Does that fact that someone is exposed to "LTD" automatically qualify him/her as "ABnormal?"

October 30, 2003

The key word is routinely in a life threatening danger. There are dangerous occupations that require a gun. NORMALLY geocaching isn't an activity that is life threatening.

Normal citizenry indicates that you are not (excluding anyone who carries a firearm in pursuit of their employment) carrying a weapon as specified in a non-law enforcement or military manner, or unlawfully armed.

There is a time to be armed and a time NOT to be armed, and if you are THAT concerned that you may be attacked that you break firearms carry laws, then you need to find a more suitable hobby, or change your area to one that is "safer" for you.

If your state allows carry, or does WITH a permit, and you are in compliance, then it is your right and choice, other-wise I wouldn't.

(Of course if you NEED one it is handy to HAVE one, but to have one at the wrong time can be very time consuming...)

[edited]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THIS is the PUBLIC face of Geocaching, when someone learns of the sport this is where they come to

learn more, what are YOU showing them?

http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/

International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists

[This message was edited by Bo Peep & The Sheep on October 30, 2003 at 12:04 PM.]

November 1, 2003

My worst nightmare happened before I started geocaching and was an archaeology major at college. My friend and I had decided to find the ghost town of Charleston for a college project. We hike in to the ledge overlooking the river and look down and see what looked like a dead body. It was a rather masculine looking woman, fully clothed laying on her back with her head bent at an odd angle. We called out to see if she would respond and she didn't move. While we were standing there quietly discussing what to do she finally woke up and sat up. We went on our way to find a place to cross the river and by the time we did she was gone and we never saw her again.

November 1, 2003

Ran into my worst nightmare??? no and it may change with circumstances.

As to the firearm issue, as long as your in compliance with applicable laws feel free to do so, just remember the responsibility that comes with it. Me, I carry and it mekes me much more aware of my actions and the actions of others. I'd rather carry my firearm for 1000 years and never need it than need it once and not haave it.

1.7k · November 2, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Bo Peep & The Sheep:
[Anyone else have a TB tag on their GPS, in case it gets found by someone?

No, but I thought about puting one on each geo-dog

DustyJacket

Not all those that wander are lost. But in my case...

November 2, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Commando:
Between me and this shed were the carcases of about 6 to 8 dogs.

I guess it could have been worse...

November 2, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by Mephistopheles:
where the predators are more numerous and dangerous

Funny you should mention that. I watched the 2 governers in Predator this morning, then did a cache by myself this afternoon. When I realized that it was so far out in the middle of nowhere, I thought that I was pretty stupid doing it alone (but of course I didn't turn back).

After spending a few minutes at the cache (logging and trading), I replaced it and headed back down a dry creek bed towards the car. When I stepped on a loose rock and made a noise, I heard something take off past me about 50' into the woods. At first, I thought it was crashing through the brush right at me (which brought back a flash of a scene in the movie), but I soon realized that it was running past. The loud noise was caused by all of the dry leaves that had recently fallen. A few yards down the creekbed, I saw the tracks of the deer that I startled from his hiding place...

I was pretty happy to meet up with some hikers (and their dogs) a little further down the trail. They probably thought I'd seen a ghost.

2.3k · November 5, 2003

quote:
Originally posted by adondo:
Another time, and it was pitch dark this time, I was walking out in the thick woods. Suddenly, my flashlight just didn’t seem to be sending out any light despite being lit up in the front of it. I’d look into it, see that it’s bright enough, then aim it forward. It was as if I was shining it into a black hole. I’m standing there somewhat confused when the “black hole” starting moving… I was only 2 feet away from a pure black cow, and the jet-black fur was absorbing just about every proton of light. I back-peddled about 25 feet before realizing it was just that – a cow!

ROFL! Oh, that's a good one. I do believe I'd stain myself in quite the un-manly fashion!

Oh, and BTW -- I'm from Cherokee County!

Joel (joefrog)

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for ye are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!"

November 6, 2003

I really enjoyed this topic and I wrote a whole bunch of stuff that I thought would be funny and stuff about guns and stuff about jumpy hikers with itchy trigger fingers and poor hearing and even a little bit about snakes and spiders (shiver) and then I realized that my opinion isn't going to change the gun-toters minds or the non-gun-toters either- I ended up just wanting to say Thanks for the laughs - thanks for convincing me to get a walking stick and to Waypoint my car and no thanks for kicking my imagination up a couple of notches for the next time I go out caching!

dadgum Monkeys from the Wizard of Oz - now that's a nightmare! :-)

I can't believe no one said this yet, but remember: Fear is the mind-killer -and- The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.

How about cache softly and carry a big stick?

If you can't find it, you ain't looking hard enough!

1.5k · December 1, 2003

Yup.

It happened to me this morning on the way to place a cache. I was doing some caching while out there, and passed the entrance to this cache. I made a quick u-turn at this pullout, but there was a pickup there. At first I thought it was a passed out drunk (large beer can sticking up from cupholder). So I figured if the truck was still there after my visit to the ruins back down the road, I'd stop to check and make sure everything was alright.

Sure enough, it was still there, so I parked my truck and approached from the driver side. As I walked up, I saw a .357 revolver that had awkwardly fallen into the driver's lap after committing suicide. What happened was apparent by the blood-stained sweatshirt, and some other grotesque visual references I won't make here.

Needless to say, I never made it to placing my cache today, and hope to return up there next week...without any surprises.

9.4k · December 2, 2003

I hope your kids weren't with you

December 2, 2003

I think this might come in on my top 5 worst nightmares. my log on captain's log

1.5k · December 2, 2003

I hope your kids weren't with you

Thankfully, no. Monday is usually my big solo caching day for the week, and I drove a fair distance to be able to place the cache I've been wanting to for about 4 months. Since she was still in the pickup when I found her, there was little to be seen by anyone unless you were right up close looking in. I was literally 12" from the body before I knew for certain what had happened. In the meantime, more than a dozen vehicles passed the same spot, all completely oblivious to what was going on or had happened. But based on the position of the truck and how she slumped over, you'd have thought someone pulled over to take a nap. Since it was a crime scene, after making the discovery I stepped away and waited for MCSO to arrive. I'm very thankful that the TNF Ranger came by when he did, because I wouldn't have been able to leave the scene to call for help, for fear that some unscrupulous twit would steal the revolver/rob the deceased before I or the deputies could arrive back at the scene.

This should make for an interesting cache log for the virtual I had just been at.

1.3k · December 3, 2003

After reading that I'm glad that the screams I heard this morning was just a homeless guy waking up covered with leaves.

Oddly enough I think he was more embarrassed by my being there than anything else.

9.4k · December 12, 2003

After reading that I'm glad that the screams I heard this morning was just a homeless guy waking up covered with leaves.

Oddly enough I think he was more embarrassed by my being there than anything else.

It wasn't the guy from this thread, was it?

4k · December 12, 2003

This happened to me, way before I got into geocaching. My brother & I were deer hunting the national forest in east Texas (I think it was just outside of Palastine, Tx.), and came upon a car (it had been there a while, all of the paint was gone & it was very rusty) sitting in the middle of the woods. I'm not talking about light woods, very heavy woods. We both thought is was kinda cool, and with both of us having deer rifles, we approached the car. We tried to open the doors, but all of them were locked, and all of the windows were shut tight. Looking in the windows we could see the keys were left in the ignition. We were able to pull the hood open and the engine was gone. Finally he got the idea to shoot out one of the windows (we were standing behind a big tree when he shot, just in case the bullet ricocheted), got the keys out, opened the trunk and found that someone had been using the trunk to sleep in. There was a pillow, sheets & a blanket, but fortunatly no body. The pillow & sheets were still fairly white, and it looked like someone had spent the night there recently. Needless to say we took one good look around and high tailed it out of dodge !!  Don't know how the car got there, how long it had been there or what it was doing there with the keys in the ignition. I have often though about going back and seeing if I could find that old car again. <A HREF="http://www.texasgeocaching.com" TARGET=_blank><IMG SRC="http://www.texasgeocaching.com/images/texasgeocaching_sm.gif"> </a>

Gee, good thing you didn't decide to shoot the trunk lock when someone was sleeping in there! That's the point about ALWAYS BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET!!!!!! Folks like you give safe gun-owners a bad name.

December 12, 2003

We happened upon our worst nightmare, WE GOT LOST. Yep, there we were in the Hills of Alamo, CA, in a park, lost. We were doing a nighttime only cache named 'Wait Until Dark'. The coordinates listed are for the parking area. After that you follow reflectors to find the cashe. I figured why would I need a GPS so I left it on the dash of the truck. I did take my backpack and the cache description with us (this turned out to be useful later).

Off we went flashlights in hand. Hiked up and down the hills followed the reflectors and found the cache. This was around 10pm. Started hiking back and, you guessed it, we took the wrong trail. (Well, all the trails look the same at night). About 15 minutes into the return trip my friend comments, 'this area doesn't look familiar'. I said 'that is because it is dark and we are going the other way'. When we hit the foot bridge he said it again, 'this area doesn't look familiar, we never crossed a foot bridge on the way up'. At that point he had me convinced since we DID NOT cross a foot bridge on the way up. I saw some lights, through the trees, from the homes below and said there are the houses, let's continue on. We did and then we hit the parking lot, the wrong parking lot. It is now around 10:30pm.

It was at this point that I remembered I had my etrex GPSr in my backpack (I use the Garmin III in the truck and the etrex when I leave the vehicle). I had the cache sheet and therefore the coordinates. I punched in the coordinates and sure enough know I knew where we were in relation to the truck, 3/4 a mile away. The only problem is nothing but dead end streets between here and there.

Finally at 11pm, at the end of yet another court, a car approached. I grabbed my grandson and put him in front of my buddy and I (as people will always stop for a kid). She did, asked us what we were doing after 11pm wondering around in her neighborhood (did I mention these are million dollar homes?). I asked her if she knew what geocaching was. She said no and graciously offerer to drive us to where she thought we parked. She did and we were reunited with our wives. The lady asked my grandson if he learned anything as of a result of this experience and he said, 'yea, geocaching is sure a lot of fun'.

So there you have it, and yes, the cache description does mention to take your GPSr because the reflectors will lead you in but not out. Lesson learned, 'take the GPS with you!'

December 14, 2003

I may have stumbled upon someone else's nightmare last week. While out trying to snag my 200th in the Ocala National Forest, we came across a shredded sleeping bag and a camper's small propane tank. Now that could ruin your stay! Bear sign was everywhere along this trail and I keep wondering about what happened. Bears are usually just curious but I can only hope that the owner was not in that bag just prior to it being shredded!

As for "pickel parks" (great moniker!), this past summer I was at a small park in St. Augustine. It seemed deserted upon my arrival but just as I retrieved the micro, I noticed an individual approaching. I quickly walked in the opposite direction and logged then replaced the cache. I thought he had left but upon my exit he reappears and starts walking towards the restrooms. I quickly headed for the safety of my truck. To make matters worse, the next cache I visited was located right at the restroom entrance at a park filled with small children. I can only imagine what the parents thought and I had to chuckle at the thought of that previous individual showing up and seeing me seemingly "waiting".

I have seen too much to worry about what other people think. I enjoy caching and often do it alone in large parks. Yes, I carry a walking stick and have been trained in self-defense so the attitude that brings helps. Trusting your instincts is important and caching is always more fun in the company of others. "Life is serious...folly" is a philosophy that always keeps a smile on my face regardless of what it brings.

38.2k · December 15, 2003

Yep, happened to me this weekend. I went on a hike/cache maint trip with my wife. Because it was about 6 miles, we packed a lunch. Sandwiches and a pound of potato salad, and stuffed everything in my pack. Mind you this is bear country.

Around 1:00, we stopped at a nice overlook for lunch and I reached into my pack and noticed the top to the potato salad was off. "NO!" I screamed. My wife, seeing the fear in my eyes excitedly asked me "what's wrong?". I reached into the pack to extract the sandwiches and pulled them out, dripping with mayonnaise and potatoes, as was my arm to the elbow and everything else in the pack. Yuuuuk! Now thats a nightmare!

Edited December 16, 2003 by briansnat

4k · December 15, 2003

So, GPS=Gooey Potato Salad?

9.4k · December 15, 2003

So, GPS=Gooey Potato Salad?

That's better than Gooey Pussycat Salad

December 17, 2003

What protection does anyone carry for freak instances?

Concealed Weapons Permit

Get one! There are 33 states that are shall issue for CCW's. That means if you meet the requirments they give you a CCW permit. If you don't live in one of those 33 states......move! On average the violent crimes go down by 18% the first year that the shall issue laws goes into effect. (Thats 550 fewer rapes per day, and 398 less carjackings for 11 of those states) But the same pattern for the rest, just in diffrent numbers depending on population, original crime rates, etc.....

www.packing.org will get you started. And if you live in michigan, e-mail me. I am an NRA certified instructor for the courses you'll need to complete to get your CCW. For those without a CCW. A big knife and big dog.

Ken

4k · December 17, 2003

Kansas doesn't have CCW permits, but we can still just strap one on our hip in plain sight and be legal! YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 17, 2003

Sirius Black:

You are all afraid of things that are super rare. I fear nothing and am not armed. An armed person is a loaded weapon- an unarmed, cautious person is not going to flip out and kill whatever scares them. I prefer to use my intuitive sense of danger, and my ability to get away smartly, instead of a weapon.

Weapons are for the weak.

Yup, I do believe that is one of the most ignorant things I have seen. In Michigan alone some 110,000 CCW permits have been issued since July 1st of 2001. Guess how many of those CCW holders have, " fliped out and killed whatever scared them". ZERO. Guess how many have been revoked period (not having to do with any offense with the weapon)? Only 14. So the other approx. 109,980 of us have been good. And have just by having the paper permits in our pockets have prevented thousands of violent crimes in Michigan. You know what educated people call persons like yourself, politicians, or victims. Americans use firearms some 2 million times a year to defend their lives of themselves and their loved ones lawfully. You know the worst part about the whole CCW law? People like you still benefit when a shall issue law goes into effect. Why? Because the crooks prefer to benefit from a safe working enviroment. (I.E. Washington D.C. = crime capital of the U.S. Firearms are totally banned in the District of Columbia unless you are local, state or federal law enforcement) Just the city of D.C. has more murders per day than Michigan does. I won't even go into the population diffrences. Don't make assinine comments about a topic you have no knowledge of! Vistit packing.org, or any state's web site that has the shall issue law and compair some statistics. I suppose you are one that seems to believe that "guns kill people". I wish that were true, arresting the guns and putting them behind bars is easy compaired to catching the real criminals. Just think about it, guns don't eat, take up much space, they don't need cable TV, and they don't have any rights to a fair trial. I wouldn't even waste my time replying to this topic but, ignorance is contagious when it comes to this topic.

Edited December 17, 2003 by Ken243

4k · December 17, 2003

Flaming isn't necessary in this thread, Ken. In your previous post, you convinced me that you can make a point without the insults and flames, so please just stick to doing it that way.

December 17, 2003

Flaming isn't necessary in this thread, Ken. In your previous post, you convinced me that you can make a point without the insults and flames, so please just stick to doing it that way.

I agree, and I aplogize. Ignorance pushes my buttons. :lol:

December 18, 2003

Worst Nightmare...

I popped out of the woods in a city park in Steubenville OH and was walking back to my car when two young males pulled up in a car and wanted my money and valuables.

unarmed, too tired to run, thankfully I had fallen down some muddy hills and looked like I was not worth it so I was able to bluff 'em.

I thought about adding a handgun to my standard caching equipment but remembered the days when I carried an M-16 and decided that it might make me overly agressive when another out could be found.

nothing against those who have made a different choice, just a personal decision.

December 18, 2003

I carried an M-16 and decided that it might make me overly agressive when another out could be found.

Well put. Very well put. Somthing one has to take into consideration.

1.5k · December 23, 2003

What protection does anyone carry for freak instances?

Concealed Weapons Permit

Get one! There are 33 states that are shall issue for CCW's. That means if you meet the requirments they give you a CCW permit. If you don't live in one of those 33 states......move! On average the violent crimes go down by 18% the first year that the shall issue laws goes into effect. (Thats 550 fewer rapes per day, and 398 less carjackings for 11 of those states) But the same pattern for the rest, just in diffrent numbers depending on population, original crime rates, etc.....

www.packing.org will get you started. And if you live in michigan, e-mail me. I am an NRA certified instructor for the courses you'll need to complete to get your CCW. For those without a CCW. A big knife and big dog.

Ken

CCW stuff

December 26, 2003

I popped out of the woods in a city park in Steubenville OH .....
I thought about adding a handgun to my standard caching equipment.

Sorry instep_guy. In Ohio only the criminals carry concealed. :mad:

Mookie

From the other side of the state.

January 3, 2004

Well the strangest so far for me (# 1 on my top 10 weird list) was a cache called "GHOST IN THE WOODS" which I did as a night cache. It is set In a very old cemetery (Early to late 1800s) in a woods at the top of a hill. If you follow the path to the top as you round the last corner in the trail, the first thing you see (or don't see) is a very old tombstone with a large hole dug in front of it. Needless to say I was a bit shocked when my flashlight failed to find ground where it should have been! To see what others have said.......

Ghost in the woods

MadisonJoe

Has anyone ever happened upon their worst nightmare?

Recommended Posts

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment

Link to comment