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Hello All,

 

I'm looking to go North in the next few weeks to do some "power caching". What I'd like to do is get the maximum number of caches with the minimum of driving. A couple areas I'm looking at are Sycamore Canyon near Riverside and near Wildwood Park in Thousand Oaks. Of course, we'd have to drive there to get the caches, but once we're there that is it for the driving, all the caches are on the trail. Very possible to get 20-30 caches depending on the trail we choose. I'd estimate about 5-6 miles of hiking for the day. I don't have a date just yet, but I'm thinking late April or, more likely, early May. Anyone game?

 

Duscwe! :D

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I have noticed several logs and received three separate emails from cachers over the past week mentioning encounters with rattlesnakes. I saw a small one on the way around Lake Hodges a couple of weeks ago and a very large Red Diamond on Friday near Golden 94 by Rancho San Diego. With the recent warm weather, they are coming out of the winter hideaways in force. Please, please use caution when approaching rock piles or walking through brush. Walking sticks or hiking poles are a good idea so you can poke around to help make them aware your are there. Especially check out in advance any cache hiding holes before you reach in with your hands. If you meet a rattlesnake, back off a safe distance and give them a chance to move out of your way, which they almost always do if given the option. If you decide to proceed, mark the spot on your GPSr and consider placing some indicator rocks across the trail to remind yourself where to be cautious on your return.

-Gecko Dad

P.S. Here's my log with photos for the Red Diamond. The zoom on my digital camera allowed me to stand off a safe distance. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...d43&LID=3188044

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I have noticed several logs and received three separate emails from cachers over the past week mentioning encounters with rattlesnakes. I saw a small one on the way around Lake Hodges a couple of weeks ago and a very large Red Diamond on Friday near Golden 94 by Rancho San Diego. With the recent warm weather, they are coming out of the winter hideaways in force. Please, please use caution when approaching rock piles or walking through brush. Walking sticks or hiking poles are a good idea so you can poke around to help make them aware your are there. Especially check out in advance any cache hiding holes before you reach in with your hands. If you meet a rattlesnake, back off a safe distance and give them a chance to move out of your way, which they almost always do if given the option. If you decide to proceed, mark the spot on your GPSr and consider placing some indicator rocks across the trail to remind yourself where to be cautious on your return.

-Gecko Dad

P.S. Here's my log with photos for the Red Diamond. The zoom on my digital camera allowed me to stand off a safe distance. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...d43&LID=3188044

Nice pics, Gecko Dad! That looks like the same snake that I had run in with back in January. Had the same black and white banding on it's tail. Thats all I got a picture of... Funny, this was also near a GOLDINHELIX cache. A trend?

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...8dd&LID=2798269

 

Duscwe! :D

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Greetings, amigos. Even though a lot of San Diego area cachers came out this way for Padregirls cache-a-thon, we would like to invite you all to the Palm Springs Cache Event held on Saturday, March 27, at 9:00 A.M.

 

GCHXTW

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=123037

 

If you have not been out to the desert for a while, you will find that there is a ton of new caches. We will be hiding more in time for the event, and will have some event specific caches as well. This will be a fun event!

 

Looking forward to seeing old friends and fellow geocachers...

 

PALM SPRINGS CACHE EVENT UPDATE: We have added 3 special event caches and 4 traditional caches within 2000 feet of the event location that will be activated the morning of the event. That is in addition to the 25 or so traditional caches we have placed in the area in the last 2 weeks or so. This will be a mega cache baggin' event! Weather guessers predict partly cloudy, slight chance of rain (yeah right) and highs in the low 80's. Come on out before it gets too hot for normal humans!

 

If you have a chance, map out all of the caches in 92262...you'll be surprised how many are now in the Palm Springs area.

 

Best regards,

Daryl & Jamey

La Quinta, CA

 

:o

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With the recent warm weather, they are coming out of the winter hideaways in force. Please, please use caution when approaching rock piles or walking through brush. Walking sticks or hiking poles are a good idea so you can poke around to help make them aware your are there. Especially check out in advance any cache hiding holes before you reach in with your hands.

My radar was really on this last weekend when looking for a cache in Upper Coyote Canyon (Terwilliger Turkey). I took my hiking stick and kept on tapping as I walked through the brush. It is the first time in the season that I really felt paranoid about snakes.

 

In the famous words of Indiana Jones, "I hate snakes".

 

Dave

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I have noticed several logs and received three separate emails from cachers over the past week mentioning encounters with rattlesnakes. I saw a small one on the way around Lake Hodges a couple of weeks ago and a very large Red Diamond on Friday near Golden 94 by Rancho San Diego. With the recent warm weather, they are coming out of the winter hideaways in force. Please, please use caution when approaching rock piles or walking through brush. Walking sticks or hiking poles are a good idea so you can poke around to help make them aware your are there. Especially check out in advance any cache hiding holes before you reach in with your hands. If you meet a rattlesnake, back off a safe distance and give them a chance to move out of your way, which they almost always do if given the option. If you decide to proceed, mark the spot on your GPSr and consider placing some indicator rocks across the trail to remind yourself where to be cautious on your return.

-Gecko Dad

P.S. Here's my log with photos for the Red Diamond. The zoom on my digital camera allowed me to stand off a safe distance. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...d43&LID=3188044

I , also, encountered a rattlensnake on my quest for the Lawson 4. Scared the u-no-what out of me, because I was sort of shimming up a rock backwards and I didn't see it until I launched myself backwards up on the rock platform. Then it rattled and I turned pretty much face to face with it. But I moved away from it and waited a minute or two and it slithered away into the rocks. I couldn't get my camera out quickly enough to get a picture. That just added to the adrenaline rush of the whole adventure!

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ok the trestle hike.....

we started out and called it off due tot herecent high temperature. however with the high pressure zone moving out quickly it will be cool again by this sunday and we are headed back out to grab that f$#@^%&* cache......I am also placingone out there in a plam grove ont he side of carrizo gorge.....if anyone wants to go, theres about 7 other caches inthe area ready to be had.....

http://www.gothicsandiego.com/geocaching/carrizo2.html

please let me know if you would liek to go.

ALSO!!!!!

.....the terrain is CAKE.....mostly flatish, no drastic uphills, and just follow the immigrant trails.....easy going......

we are going this sunday the 28th.....all are welcome....

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I have noticed several logs and received three separate emails from cachers over the past week mentioning encounters with rattlesnakes.  I saw a small one on the way around Lake Hodges a couple of weeks ago and a very large Red Diamond on Friday near Golden 94 by Rancho San Diego.  With the recent warm weather, they are coming out of the winter hideaways in force.  Please, please use caution when approaching rock piles or walking through brush.  Walking sticks or hiking poles are a good idea so you can poke around to help make them aware your are there. Especially check out in advance any cache hiding holes before you reach in with your hands.  If you meet a rattlesnake, back off a safe distance and give them a chance to move out of your way, which they almost always do if given the option.  If you decide to proceed, mark the spot on your GPSr and consider placing some indicator rocks across the trail to remind yourself where to be cautious on your return. 

-Gecko Dad

P.S. Here's my log with photos for the Red Diamond.  The zoom on my digital camera allowed me to stand off a safe distance.  http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...d43&LID=3188044

I , also, encountered a rattlensnake on my quest for the Lawson 4. Scared the u-no-what out of me, because I was sort of shimming up a rock backwards and I didn't see it until I launched myself backwards up on the rock platform. Then it rattled and I turned pretty much face to face with it. But I moved away from it and waited a minute or two and it slithered away into the rocks. I couldn't get my camera out quickly enough to get a picture. That just added to the adrenaline rush of the whole adventure!

Second rattlesnake sighting in 3 days at the new Two Dams - Woodson cache by Shandon. I got a picture this time.

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anyone ever been bitten by a rattler wihle geocaching?

I've never run across anyone bitten while hiking, backpacking or caching. I haven't even heard of that happening to someone, though y'know it has. I heard some stat that males between 18-25 are the most often bitten. Add alcohol to the mix and the stats jump.

 

Several years ago one of my employees was bitten on a job site in Rancho Santa Fe. He scooped up a pile of weeds left the day before and watched a baby rattler sink its teeth into his thumb. It certainly was the excitement for the day, both at work and the ER. He was to the hospital with in 20 minutes (we called ahead) and they put half the staff on his case. There were 6 people warming anti-venon when I walked in. His arm was pretty swollen and it took over a week to get full use of it. Whew! Funny thing is, he was the most calm of all of us. He collected snakes when he lived in Arid-zona and had been bitten before. He knew the drill.

 

I really don't want to think about what would happen when you're 2 hours out. Avoidance is still the best defense.

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wow, in 20 minutes his arm was that swollen? well then again I have heard babies use more venom because they lack control or somethign like that...

yea I was just thinking about Toms adventure to lawson 4 which I intend to do very soon, I don't like the idea of jumping up on a ledge and comeing face to face wiht a rattler...but I do wanna do lawson....

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I went around and collected all my Dead End caches today and archived several of them. The altoids tins were getting rusty and some of the caches were placed next to or in front of homes, not an ideal location (although I thought it was back when I placed them). One thing I did notice was that there was nothing in the caches, no swag. I remember putting some good swag in most of these awhile back. Do people take and not give? Maybe I'll just set log only caches for now? I guess this echos back to Sddarkman's point, caches do turn into trashes. Thanks for letting me vent.

 

Duscwe![:rolleyes:]

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One thing I did notice was that there was nothing in the caches, no swag.  I remember putting some good swag in most of these awhile back.  Do people take and not give?

Swag is a funny thing. Like many cachers, I only take swag when I'm with my kids or there's something in there I just gotta have (rare). Lately, I keep swag on hand to set up my new caches or for re-stocking others. I guess I'm allowed to take out dirty McToys and adverisments if I leave new swag.

 

I try and keep micro swag around but its harder to find. I typically get my stuff from Target, Home Depot and REI. Good micro need a special trip to the coin shop or similar specialty store for me. Dunno if its true for them as well.

 

Guess its easier for micros to have their quality degraded.

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The Viridian Queen, the fifth offspring of Breeder, will be getting four cache larvae for cachers to place. Check out the cache page for details:

The Viridian Queen

 

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I saw a Southern Pacific Rattlesnake on a trail in Rancho Bernardo while looking for good larva locations. He was pretty sleepy, and not the aggressive type. Diamondbacks seem to be quite a bit meaner. March to May is breeding season, so even if they feel like sleeping, they have to go out so as not to miss all the fun.

 

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I'm planning on doing a trip to Riverside, but it can get pretty hot in that valley, so I'm waiting for a non-record-breaking day to go.

 

Parsa

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Maybe I'll just set log only caches for now? I guess this echos back to Sddarkman's point, caches do turn into trashes. Thanks for letting me vent.

Duscwe![;)]

well its been a little while and my views are the same but my philosophy has changed a little for my personal hunting. I sometimes find hunting micro is more rewarding than a trash cache. sometimes the more challeging the cache the fun it is, and micros can be a challenge at time. however, a cache that hurts my brain such as tusconthompsons pay homage tot he master, gawd.....I will never do caches that are as hard as that ever again. Thanks to tom sayer I was able to log that cache. but he pretty much gave me the answers or dadgum near ....

as for swag, I carry several types wiht me. stuff for kids, stuff for micros and stuff for the adult kid. ;)

I recently went to party city and spent 50$ on schwag and as I was leaving my lady says to me wiht a chuckle, we just spent 50$ on schwag.....like theres a problem wiht that? hehehehehe

my treasure is another mans trash, but i try to have a little somethgin for everyone.....I have also started to get miniature aliens from gum ball machines, for some reason they have attracted my fancy....

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Now that Flagman has replaced the Bernardo Mountain cache within the San Dieguito River Park, I posted the following note for the rangers to read:

 

"I know that when this area was being considered for inclusion into the SDRP, geocachers were as active as any in writing to support it. I would like once again to ask the rangers to communicate with us and work with us rather than see us as at odds with the purposes of the Park. From my own observations, people dropping trash, irresponsible bikers, and others have done much more damage than cachers. If a cache is in a location that will damage anything, write to the owner and ask them to relocate it to a harmless location. If that doesn't work, post a log, and the rest of us will take care of the problem. I know I would.

 

"This hobby has the ability to be very educational, and I know for my part I have seen and visited places in our county I never would have otherwise. I have climbed mountains I never would have climbed, visited historical locations I never knew existed, and found scenic trails that only locals know. Kids and adults alike learn to use GPS technology, read maps, use a compass, become familiar with actual geographic coordinates, distances and bearings in the field, and gain the ability to read subtle signs in the environment. We learn about plant and animal species, the smells of sage, the beauty of wildflowers, and gain an appreciation for our local habitats. I think also that geocachers have a sense more than anyone else of the pace of urban sprawl and the loss of habitat to it."

 

Parsa

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Now that Flagman has replaced the Bernardo Mountain cache within the San Dieguito River Park, I posted the following note for the rangers to read:

 

"I know that when this area was being considered for inclusion into the SDRP, geocachers were as active as any in writing to support it. I would like once again to ask the rangers to communicate with us and work with us rather than see us as at odds with the purposes of the Park. From my own observations, people dropping trash, irresponsible bikers, and others have done much more damage than cachers. If a cache is in a location that will damage anything, write to the owner and ask them to relocate it to a harmless location. If that doesn't work, post a log, and the rest of us will take care of the problem. I know I would.

 

"This hobby has the ability to be very educational, and I know for my part I have seen and visited places in our county I never would have otherwise. I have climbed mountains I never would have climbed, visited historical locations I never knew existed, and found scenic trails that only locals know. Kids and adults alike learn to use GPS technology, read maps, use a compass, become familiar with actual geographic coordinates, distances and bearings in the field, and gain the ability to read subtle signs in the environment. We learn about plant and animal species, the smells of sage, the beauty of wildflowers, and gain an appreciation for our local habitats. I think also that geocachers have a sense more than anyone else of the pace of urban sprawl and the loss of habitat to it."

 

Parsa

so what happened with the rangers?

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Some of you may have seen last nights presentation of "Venom ER" on the Animal Channel last night. I was glued to the TV the whole time. The show was about local rattlesnake bite victims, and how The Loma Linda Medical Center handled the individual cases as they arrived via helicopter from the field and other hospitals. This show was really an eye opener regarding the treatment for bites. I always thought if you recieved antivenon you were home free, but it isn't that simple. It is amazing how much of that stuff you need to slow the effects of the venom. One patient died from the bite even with 30+ vials of antivenon. As geocachers, we get hours away from trailheads, and hours more driving to get to treatment, so the utmost caution in how we do things is mandatory. Prevention definitely is the best chance of survival. The program described the effects of being bitten by the various types of rattlers in this area. Some cause massive swelling and muscle damage while others cause convultions. Green Mohaves are particularly horrible! I have seen many snakes while geocaching, and have had a few very close encounters, and by all rights should have been bitten a few times. After watching that show I will be a little more careful. Another episode of Venom ER will air tuesday night at 9:00pm. I have a meeting that night, but will record it.

Check it out,

Ruscal

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only a little?

;)

After four encounters with snakes I always have my snake radar on. My first encounter was with a Southern Pacific Rattler at the end of Regents St. in Rose Canyon. Just expect to see them wherever you go, especially this time of year.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?II...2db&LID=1677526

 

On a different note, why are no caches being approved? Five on Monday, one on Tuesday, none since. I'm not interested in rational answers, I just want to complain ;)

 

Duscwe! :bad:

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On a different note, why are no caches being approved? Five on Monday, one on Tuesday, none since. I'm not interested in rational answers, I just want to complain :D

socal admin has been on vacation, enjoying a well deserved break. on a note along the same lines... hope to have a new cache up this weekend....a puzzle cache just for Ducswe!!!! however, not too much of a mind bender.

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On a different note, why are no caches being approved?  Five on Monday, one on Tuesday, none since.  I'm not interested in rational answers, I just want to complain B)

socal admin has been on vacation, enjoying a well deserved break. on a note along the same lines... hope to have a new cache up this weekend....a puzzle cache just for Ducswe!!!! however, not too much of a mind bender.

Team APC will be deploying new caches soon to combat the insanity.

Vacation? I guess that's acceptable. ;)

 

Duscwe! B)

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Forgot to mention, if you guys ever go up to Chino Hills there is a cacher called BarbiQ62 who has hidden some of the best cammo caches I have ever seen. Very senic up there, nice trails behind the houses. You could grab about 16 caches in one afternoon, but they ain't easy. Well worth the drive if you're looking to get out of SD.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=40...69-612432ee2e63

 

Duscwe! B)

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Forgot to mention, if you guys ever go up to Chino Hills there is a cacher called BarbiQ62 who has hidden some of the best cammo caches I have ever seen. Very senic up there, nice trails behind the houses. You could grab about 16 caches in one afternoon, but they ain't easy. Well worth the drive if you're looking to get out of SD.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=40...69-612432ee2e63

 

Duscwe! :)

I've browsed her caches and they look very promising. SonicBrew's as well, though he has fewer out in the field. Thanks for pointing them out. I'll make a trip up there when I'm free and don't need to take the family.

 

On a related note, I've emailed a SoCal Geocacher to look at some of the infamous Otis Pug caches. Most are archived but some are still in place. Eventually I'll get up there for a guided tour and get a (stronger) taste of my own medicine.

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Hey, was Parsa trying to let this milestone slip by unnoticed? It looks like he and dhsundance had quite a weekend there. Congrats!

(not too shabby for dhsundance either)

Sunday the 4th was an event day for the cachers in around Riverside. They all met at a Denny's at 4:04 am on 4/4/4. (They also logged the event cache 4 times. But that's another story)

 

Then they were off to do the caches in Sycamore Canyon (a large area like Mission Trails). We figured with these events going on that we wouldn't run into anyone. But we were wrong. We ran into RKylem's Dad (of Jackie and Bob). He actually ran into us- literally. (He was out for his morning jog.) He really helped us on a strange cache with an impossible clue.

 

I also learned from reading the SoCal Geocachers Site that Team Dakiba continued to cache that day. He was able to find 60 caches- I believe a personal record for him. It makes our 48 look paltry. Riverside truly is a cache rich area.

 

Dave

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I knew reaching 1000 was earth shaking for me personally, but...

 

We've had 3 earthquakes above magnitude 3.0 in southern california today. One was on Mt. Palomar less than an hour ago (3.5). Another was in Riverside this morning.

 

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On a different note, why are no caches being approved? Five on Monday, one on Tuesday, none since. I'm not interested in rational answers, I just want to complain :D

Hey everyone, I'm back. Sorry about the delay in getting caches approved. Actually, I was on a business trip in New York City and could not get internet access in my room. The hotel (a Hyatt, by the way...) had a business center that had internet access available at $.50 a minute! So needless to say, I didn't get much internet time.

 

But now I'm back. I've waded through the approvals and the queue is clear right now. I'm still trying to get through a MASSIVE backlog of emails though, so if you've emailed me, it may take a day or two.

 

Looks like the Riverside event was a lot of fun. I'm sorry that I missed that one. There will be our annual Southern California Geocachers picnic coming up in June though, so watch out for that.

 

Congrats Parsa on passing 1000!!!! I've still got a couple of hundred to go to get there, but I'll make it eventually! :D

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I mentioned earlier that I had placed four olive drab decon containers as "larvae" in my new Viridian Queen cache in Escondido. The cachers who visited the Viridian Queen after I deposited the larvae said they were already gone. No one posted a log online, noted anything in the log book, or emailed me about the larvae. It doesn't seem like the cache was ransacked by muggles, as the cache and all the rest of the contents are in place. I emailed all those who had visited the cache, and except for the original Yrium larva, they saw nothing and didn't return to take the new ones.

 

It took me a long time and a lot of driving and hiking to set up the four new larvae for other cachers to place. If you have any information on the four containers, please email me. Otherwise I'll have to replace them all.

 

Parsa

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... If you have any information on the four containers, please email me. Otherwise I'll have to replace them all.

 

Parsa

Parsa,

 

I'll email my nephew Superfly and ask him if he remembers seeing the four green containers. I'll let you know what I find out.

 

--- yrium ---

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I was in he desert today, near jacumba and mountain springs, and my pointer was so inaccurate, but my GF's was right on. at one point I was walking away from the cache and the pointer said I was walking towards it. then I locked onto it to test it out, and the pointer would erratically pointer in different directions, almost like spinning, for az while I felt like i was in the bermuda triangle. anyone else experience this wiht their GPS? the other day, one other thing happened, when I was off roading, the pointer would not point in the direction I was ggoing on the trail, but if I tilted the GPS to the side( I have a dash mount) it would point in the correct direction.....

any thoughts/Ideas?

I have dropped this unit once, and only once.

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ClayJar came up with the term for this:

 

Loose Bearings:

The point at which the direction on your GPSr no longer points in the correct direction, mostly because you've slowed down to a point that it doesn't know in which direction you're moving. At this point, you need to take out your trusty compass to determine directions.

 

Other suggested terms for this were:

Compass-Wander

Schitzoid Compass

The Bearing Blues

etc.

 

It's normal since the arrow is based on movement to track direction.

 

Parsa

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I have experienced extreme errors a few times in the past winter. On one occasion down near Jamul, I had readings putting me in Rosarita Beach. Another, when up east of Encinitas, I had readings putting me out in the Mojave Desert. GPSr had been working fine for some hours prior. After about 40 minutes of this erratic behavior, it came to its senses. I had plenty of signal strenght both times.

 

Not sure if it's true or myth, but someone mentioned that during periods of increased solar activity, especially when there are massive corona ejections, the bursts of solar wind may cause the GPS satellites to wobble.

-Gecko Dad

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Hello San Diego group, and especially those of you in North County that have any interest in the SDRP (San Dieguito River Park)

 

Great news scoop for you all, and you are the first to know! As such, please realize that details and particulars may change, but we wanted you to know the latest! Now, again, I don't really represent the park, but my husband is spear-heading this project, and gave me permission to share.

 

Ok, here goes, They have officially achieved a clean slate of no caches in the park as of yesterday (yes, even members only caches, sorry Clyde, that puzzle was fun by the way, I solved the first one pretty easily) So, now that they have a clean slate, my husband will be drafting a policy for allowing geocaching in the park again.

 

Yes, you heard me correctly. They will allow caches in the park again, under certain guidelines, and even have some ideas that people could use in creating new caches. A couple caches that were removed by an overzealous ranger, may be replaced also, but you didn't hear that here. They aren't going to charge money for placing caches, at least not that he mentioned, and we are both strongly against that idea.

 

SO, in the meantime, to not ruin this, please don't place any new caches in SDRP until this new policy is done. That will take around 3-4 weeks, hopefully. I will update you with the info when it is available. If you have any suggestions, please do feel free to email me with them, but they may not use every idea, so don't get mad if they don't, Please! I will pass them to my husband though.

 

Hooray! :D AND Thanks to all the geocachers who were cooperative and patient with the park over the last year while they established their response to geocaching.

 

golanv

:D

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Thanks golanv. It was fun playing with you guys. I saw the new stake BTW. :D

 

We have more in common than you know. I used to play RPGs a lot (Al-Qadim was my favorite), I am into native american heritage and linguistics, I study religions (including Buddhism), and I *don't* like stepping on Least Bell's Vireos. Maybe I'll make a Cherokee alphabet puzzle just for you to solve! :D

 

BTW, the person you thought planted that flag didn't do it... oh, and neither did I.

 

It's nice to see that the park can have regulated caches. There really aren't a lot of places to put caches around here except SDRP and Daley Ranch. Even if David doesn't want me to put any more caches out there, at least I can find other people's.

 

Parsa

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Hi, I don't have time today to put notes on all the caches that were removed, but I do know that all the san pasqual ones were, like on top of clevenger.

 

I will try to post notes on them, out of courtesy for the owners.

 

please stop attacking me though (not you parsa, others), that just isn't called for. I am trying to help, and trying to foster communication.

 

parsa, if you put the egg one back, please remove it :D Please.

 

Thanks!

golanv

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