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I received the National Geographic Northeastern USA Topo! and the Topo! Sync USA software as a Valentines Day gift (good wife or what!). I'm an avid backpacker, hiker and, of course, Geocacher. How can I put this software to use? The manual claims that it's compatable with most GPS's, but I know my Vista only accepts Mapsource maps.

 

If you have this software, how do you use it for Geocaching and hiking? What exactly can I do with it beyond simply printing maps? How do I use it with my GPS?

 

A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away. -Barry Goldwater

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some good things.

 

You can map your route before you leave and load it into you GPS.

You can track yourself when your out there and save it into the program when you get back.

You can mark waypoints, routes, tracks, and maps.

You can move them back and forth from computer to GPS.

You can send a map file to a friend who is meeting you for the day and they can open it in their map program and see what you saw, and you're both prepared.

As a Realtor, I use it to map my route for showings. You can use it to map your route of caches for the day. Play with it, you have all kinds of icons for different waypoints, you can mark trailheads and parking, swimming, fishing, restaurants, gas stations, pit stops, and save all the info for future reference.

Good luck and have fun.

 

(oh and start by putting the CD in your computer icon_wink.gif )

 

Cache you later,

Planet

 

I feel much more like I do now than when I first got here.

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Brian: Although I have not hit them yet, I've prepared to “assault” your Ramapo Mountain caches (4 of them) by downloading the waypoints from my Vista into the NG Topo and printing with UTM grids on NG waterproof/tearproof paper. You can also enlarge the area where're your caching to make it easier to read in the field. Although not related to the programs, I them scanned the North Jersey Trails map for Ramapo which happens to have UTM grids marked on them. I then enlarged, printed in color on the NG waterproof/teareproof paper and wrote in the major UTM grid coordinates so I have a companion trail map to match the NG Topo . By the way, the grids on the trail maps don't line up with Topo's grids - I believe the trail grids not the NG Topo grid locations are wrong.

 

I did something similar in Harriman Park when I hit multiple caches putting them on one NG Topo printout. I then marked switchpoints between trails on the NG Topo screen and downloaded those into the GPS. Then while hiking I knew when I was approaching the switch. For the heck of it, I tried tracing the trails shown on the NYNJTC onto NG Topo. You then can create waypoints automatically in NG Topo by distance or quantity or other variables and download into the GPS.

 

Downloading tracks after caching is fun as you can see your tracks and get an elevation profile and check you total gain in elevation. Of course you can plot your hikes and routes before you go to check the gain and pick easier routes around mountains and hills. I also use the track "pictures" and included them in my own multicaches such as this

 

Check NG Topo site for Map-x-change. People post their hikes and waypoints for interesting places including all the major hiking trails around such as AT. You can then download the waypoint and tracks into you program and transfer them into the GPS.

 

One idea that might interest you getting back to NYNJTC maps that do not have grids is to create your own grid template. You need clear plastic sheets that you might use for those overhead projection displays. You can probably biuy a packet at Staples. Scale a Topo map on you screen to match the NYNJTC map. You have to play with it and it will be off slightly since Topo only scales in integers. Once it matches the Trail Map in size, switch topo off to a different area so no map shows – only the grid lines. Then hit print to print out the UTM grids. Replace the sheet into the printer and switch to Deg Min Sec grids and re-print onto the same sheet. You can now line up the Deg Min Sec grids with the Trail Map and immediately see the UTM location from the UTM grids. I haven't done this much more than experimenting. But I recall that you use these trail maps a lot and might find this procedure helpful.

 

Overkill, of course, but who says any of this makes sense?

 

Have fun with NG Topo – great program. Don’t now anything about the other one.

 

Alan

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I forgot to mention they nhave all the trails for Harriman and a bunch for the Catskills which you frequent. Here's a list of all the current Map-x-change for the northeastern states.

 

Northeastern USA: CT, MA, ME, NJ, NH, NY, RI, VT

 

 

TOPO! Northeastern

 

 

 

46 Highest Peaks of the Adirondacks

Glenn Bock, 04/24/00

Hiking, Peak Bagging

 

High Points of Adirondacks - South

Glenn Bock, 03/23/00

Hiking

 

Adirondack Peak

Tom Pennington, 09/17/99

Hiking, Peak Climbing, Snow-shoeing

 

High Points of New Hampshire

Glenn Bock, 03/23/00

Hiking

 

Adirondack Peaks Over 3000 Feet

QAM1, 06/09/00

Hiking, Peakbagging, Bushwhacking

 

Highland Forest

Mike Sporer, 11/06/02

Hiking

 

Allamuchy Mountain State Park Mountain Biking

Jon Petersen, 09/14/01

mountain biking

 

Highland Forest

Mike Sporer, 11/06/02

Hiking

 

Appalachian Trail -- Maine

Data Source: National Park Service, 07/03/01

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing

 

Holmdel Park

Ramesh Viswanathan, 12/17/02

hiking, skiing

 

Appalachian Trail - New Hampshire

Jeremy Osgood, 08/07/01

hiking

 

Katahdin_Trip.tpo, Katahdin_trip.tpg

Samara Anderson, 07/03/01

hiking

 

Appalachian Trail -- White Mtns.

Data Source: National Park Service, 03/23/00

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing

 

Lake George

Glenn Bock, 04/24/00

Hiking, Biking, Canoeing, History

 

Appalachian Trail- Berkshire

Data Source: National Park Service, 03/22/00

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing

 

Lake Winnipesaukee Numbered Buoys

BlueDolphin, 07/28/01

Boating

 

Appalachian Trail- NYC area

Data Source: National Park Service, 03/23/00

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing

 

Long Trail

Data Source: US Forest Service, 02/11/00

Hiking, Snowshoeing

 

Appalachian Trail- So. Vermont

Data Source: National Park Service, 03/23/00

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing

 

Lowell NHP

Glenn Bock, 08/02/01

 

Arcadia North

Cabby, 11/06/01

Mountain Biking, Hiking, Equestrian and Fishing

 

Maine Shore Hikes

Glenn Bock, 07/03/01

Hiking

 

Balsam Lake -- Catskills

James P. Lambert, 06/27/01

hiking

 

Martha's Vineyard Adventure Kayaking

David Weintraub, 08/03/01

paddling, hiking

 

Bog River

Adirondack Willy, 04/24/00

Canoeing, Hiking

 

Mason Hill

Tom Ekman, 09/17/99

Biking

 

Boston Trails

Dan Braun, 09/17/99

Hiking, Biking, Birding

 

Mount Desert

Data Source: National Park Service, 07/03/01

hiking

 

Briarcliff Peekskill Trail and Blue Mountain

John B. Graham, 03/30/02

Hiking, Bird Watching (Teatown), Mountain Biking (Blue Mountain)

 

Mount Marcy of Adirondacks

Glenn Bock, 04/24/00

Hiking

 

Butler Sanctuary

John B. Graham, 03/30/02

Hiking, Bird Watching

 

Nassau-Suffolk Trail: Stillwell Woods-St Pius X

Donald House, 11/25/02

 

Canoe and Kayak Put-in Spots in Connecticut - .tpg file

Gregory Hanson, 06/28/01

canoeing, kayaking, boating

 

New Hampshire Appalachian Trail

Jeremy "Swamp Donkey" Osgood, Eastern Sales Manager for National Geographic Maps, 01/14/00

Hiking

 

Canoe and Kayak Put-in Spots in Connecticut - .tpo file

Gregory Hanson, 06/28/01

kayaking, canoeing, boating

 

Northville Placid Trail - North section

Kenneth A. Reek, 08/11/00

Hiking, Canoeing

 

Cape cod - Trail of Tears - mountain biking

Jon Petersen, 05/08/01

Mountain Biking

 

Northville Placid Trail - Southern Section

Kenneth A. Reek, 08/11/00

Hiking, Canoeing

 

Cape Cod Adventure Kayaking

David Weintraub, 08/03/01

paddling, hiking

 

Oswegatchie River

Adirondack Willy, 03/22/00

Hiking, Canoeing

 

Cape Cod Hikes

Glenn Bock, 08/09/00

Hiking, Historical Touring

 

Panther Mountain

Peter Sniderman, 09/17/99

Hiking, birding

 

Catskills Hiking

Data Source: NY State Department of Environmental Conservation, 02/22/00

Hiking

 

Pochuck Relocation

Mark Koenig, 09/24/01

Hiking

 

Catskills Horseback Riding

Data Source: NY State Department of Environmental Conservation, 02/22/00

Horseback Riding

 

Rail Trail

Gregory Hanson, 03/22/00

Bicycling

 

Catskills Snowmobiling

Data Source: NY State Department of Environmental Conservation, 02/22/00

Snowmobiling

 

Raquette River

Adirondack Willy, 08/03/01

canoeing, hiking

 

Delaware Water Gap NRA

Data Source: National Park Service, 03/15/00

Hiking

 

Ringwood State Park Mountain Biking

Jon Petersen, 09/14/01

biking

 

Dorr Mountain Loop- Acadia National Park

Jesse Fulkerson, 09/17/99

Hiking

 

Ruins -- Catskills

James Lambert, 06/27/01

hiking

 

Eagle Mountain -- Catskills

James Lambert, 06/27/01

hiking

 

Sandwich Range

Nancy Klinger, 09/17/99

Hiking, snowshoeing

 

Eastern Massachusetts Hikes

Jeff Schlueter, 06/02/00

Hiking, Dog Walking

 

Saranac Lakes

Adirondack Willy, 07/06/00

Hiking, Canoeing

 

F. Gilbert Hills State Forest (Foxboro)

Cabby, 07/15/01

Mountain Biking, hiking.

 

Saratoga National Historical Park

Glenn Bock, 03/23/00

Hiking

 

Fahnestock State Park Area Trails

John Graham, 05/13/02

Hiking, Mountain Biking, Cross Country Skiing, Camping, Boating and Swimming

 

South Vermont Hikes

Glenn Bock, 08/11/00

Hiking

 

Features - Boston

Glenn Bock, 08/02/01

 

Southern Vermont Hikes

Glenn Bock, 09/17/99

Hiking

 

Features of New Hampshire

Glenn Bock, 03/23/00

Hiking

 

Sterling Forest, Ringwood and the Ramapo Mountains

John Graham, 05/14/02

Hiking, Mountain Biking and Birdwatching

 

Freedom Trail

Glenn Bock, 07/03/01

 

Terrain Features - Berkshires

Glenn Bock, 08/02/01

 

Freetown State Forest

Cabby, 11/06/01

Mountain Biking, Hiking, X-Country Skiing, and Snow Mobile

 

Terrain Features - Maine

Glenn Bock, 08/02/01

 

Fulton Chain

Adirondack Willy, 04/24/00

Hiking, Canoeing

 

The Presidential Range

Jeremy "Swamp Donkey" Osgood, Eastern Sales Manager for National Geographic Maps, 01/14/00

Hiking

 

Green Mountain NF Ownership

Data Source: US Forest Service, 07/03/01

 

Triple R Brooks Ride

Tom Ekman, 08/03/01

biking, hiking

 

Green Mountain NF rec sites

Data Source: US Forest Service, 07/03/01

Hiking, Snowshoeing, Mountain Biking

 

Undercliff Circular

David Sutter, 08/02/01

hiking

 

Green Mountain NF Vistas

Data Source: US Forest Service, 08/08/01

 

US Earthquakes

Data Source: USGS, 04/14/00

Quaking in your boots

 

Green Mountains

USDA Forest Service, 02/11/00

Hiking, Snowshoeing, Mountain Biking

 

US Hot Springs

Data Source: US Geological Survey, 09/17/99

Hot spring enjoyment

 

Harriman State Park Trails

John Graham, 05/18/02

Hiking,Backpacking, Mountain Biking, Camping, Boating & Fishing

 

US State Highpoints

Glenn Bock, 09/12/01

hiking

 

Hartford Hikes

Dan Braun, 09/17/99

Hiking, Birding

 

Ward Pound Ridge Reservation

John B. Graham, 03/30/02

Hiking, Cross Country Skiing, Camping and Fishing

 

Hawkins Pond Nature Area

Mike Sporer, 11/06/02

Hiking

 

Wawayanda Highlands

Rod Johnson, 08/02/01

Hiking, biking

 

High Peaks of the White Mountains

Glenn Bock, 04/24/00

Hiking, Peakbagging

 

Williamstown Backcountry Skiing

Tom Ekman, 08/03/01

skiing

 

High Points of Adirondacks - North

Glenn Bock, 03/23/00

Hiking

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Brian: I just realized ther are the Trail tracks for Ramapo Mtns. I just downloaded the trail tracks from NG Topo Mapxchange. Once you get the tracks into NG Topo, creat waypoints of the tracks using that feature. I can now transfer your cache waypoints to those maps and create waypoints for the trails so there will be trails and cache waypoints in the GPS with a printout of the combined map showijng the trails and the cache waypoints. That's better then drawing them yourself. That's great.

 

Alan

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quote:
Originally posted by BrianSnat:

The manual claims that it's compatable with most GPS's, but I know my Vista only accepts Mapsource maps.


By compatable, it is refering to the capability to upload and download waypoints and routes. It doesn't download maps to any GPS as far as I can tell.

 

--Marky

"All of us get lost in the darkness, dreamers learn to steer with a backlit GPSr"

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quote:
Originally posted by BrianSnat:

I received the National Geographic Northeastern USA Topo! and the Topo! Sync USA software as a Valentines Day gift (good wife or what!). I'm an avid backpacker, hiker and, of course, Geocacher. How can I put this software to use? The manual claims that it's compatable with most GPS's, but I know my Vista only accepts Mapsource maps.

 

If you have this software, how do you use it for Geocaching and hiking? What exactly can I do with it beyond simply printing maps? How do I use it with my GPS?

 

_A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away._ -Barry Goldwater

 


 

I know some of the mapping programs will read from your GPS and show your location on the map. So, if you have a laptop, you can basically have a really big map screen for the GPSr while driving, or even hiking if you feel like lugging a laptop through the woods...

 

I'm lost. I've gone to find myself. If I should happen to get back before I return, please ask me to wait.

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I'm an avid hiker myself and use the software to figure out routes. Topo! is a great piece of software. You'll love the UI. It's a very easy program to use. The elevation profile is very handy in determing the best route and you can easily check that by drawing a route and right clicking for the elev profile command.

 

I do wish the garmin would accept Topo! maps but they don't. just Mapsource.

 

The other software is what allows you to upload the coords up to your gps or down to the map program. Sometimes, I'll go off trail on a whim and take waypoints and it's nice to be able to download the points and see exactly where you were.

 

[This message was edited by evergreenhiker! on February 21, 2003 at 05:56 PM.]

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