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post Mar 19 2004, 01:14 PM
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I count myself lucky that there is nothing to complain about in Houston....Cachewise!

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post Mar 19 2004, 01:19 PM
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That sounds really kind of cool, but how much is the coin actually worth?
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post Mar 19 2004, 01:26 PM
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If I remember correctly SA Kugerands are made from gold. While it may not be worth thousands of dollars. It is a very unique coin
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post Mar 19 2004, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (magellan315 @ Mar 19 2004, 01:26 PM)
If I remember correctly SA Kugerands are made from gold. While it may not be worth thousands of dollars. It is a very unique coin

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post Mar 19 2004, 02:06 PM
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Sure wish I lived in Houston, or for that matter anywhere in Texas should be close enough for this to be worth the effort.
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post Mar 19 2004, 02:07 PM
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In the days when gold was $700+ an oz these were the coins of choice for the seriouse gold stasher.
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post Mar 19 2004, 02:12 PM
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Just checked the web. A 1/10 oz coin goes for about $50 and a 1/4 oz for about $125. I don't know if there are other sizes. I wonder what weight the cache coin will be?
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post Mar 19 2004, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (Natureboy44 @ Mar 19 2004, 02:06 PM)
Sure wish I lived in Houston, or for that matter anywhere in Texas should be close enough for this to be worth the effort.

Sure wish it was in a state other than Texas. tongue.gif

Wait, is Pennsylvania far enough away to avoid the backlash of a jab at Texans ? blink.gif

I was just kiddin ya'll. Ya know them steer horns mounted to your cars, and shootin everything's cool.

Awesome looking cache idea. Wish I was able to make a roadtrip to hunt that one !
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post Mar 19 2004, 03:11 PM
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I think we are lucky in California. I'm not interested in prizes, I'm interested in adventure. We have caches like this one and for that I am very happy.

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post Mar 19 2004, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (Marky @ Mar 19 2004, 03:11 PM)
I think we are lucky in California. I'm not interested in prizes, I'm interested in adventure. We have caches like this one and for that I am very happy.

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I agree, but you're mistaken if you think that this won't be an adventure.
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post Mar 19 2004, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE (Snoogans @ Mar 19 2004, 03:28 PM)
QUOTE (Marky @ Mar 19 2004, 03:11 PM)
I think we are lucky in California.  I'm not interested in prizes, I'm interested in adventure.  We have caches like this one and for that I am very happy.

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I agree, but you're mistaken if you think that this won't be an adventure.

Oh, I bet it will be. I just don't like the "race" type of adventures. I have enough stress at work, I don't need stressful playtime. bad_boy_a.gif Maybe it can become a puzzle-multi or something after the FTF gets the prize.

Off course, for some people, having a competition would add to the adventure/experience. This is perfect for those types. big_smile.gif

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post Mar 19 2004, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Natureboy44 @ Mar 19 2004, 03:12 PM)
Just checked the web. A 1/10 oz coin goes for about $50 and a 1/4 oz for about $125. I don't know if there are other sizes. I wonder what weight the cache coin will be?


If that photo is of the actual coin, that might be a one ounce coin with a value of $400+.

A Krugerrand (a rand is a denomination, Kruger is the type of coin) is a South African gold coin. They are very popular with gold traders because they are minted in great quantities, and thus are worth fairly close to their actual weight in gold (with a lot of coins you pay a premium for them). Excellent for investing.

This is one instance where the value of the coin isn't really that important. How many people get a chance to win a gold coin? That's VERY cool.

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post Mar 19 2004, 03:47 PM
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Here's a log from the cache page:
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FYI: Gold is currently going for $412.00 an ounce. Krugerrands come in 1 oz, 1/2 oz, 1/4 oz and 1/10th oz coins.


Not bad.
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post Mar 19 2004, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Indiana Cojones @ Mar 19 2004, 03:45 PM)
This is one instance where the value of the coin isn't really that important. How many people get a chance to win a gold coin? That's VERY cool.

THAT is exactly why I posted the thread. I don't have much of a chance to win, but if I did, I would never part with it.
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post Mar 19 2004, 04:42 PM
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I had the opportunity to party with some of the Houston cachers, and must say Texas has captured the true spirit of geocaching. The comraderee, true sportsmanship, sense of fairness and acceptance to newcomers shows how great these people are. Hats off to Houston cachers. They are the true representation of what it is all about!!!!!
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post Mar 19 2004, 09:41 PM
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With the way the price of gold has been fluctuating, it will be interesting to see what the prize will be worth on the 27th, when the hunt actually begins. Krugerrands normally have a buy/sell price within about -/+ 2% of spot price.

Silver has really been climbing, at some point soon it will fetch over $8/oz I'm going to have to dig out those junk silver coins and try to figure out where it will peak.

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post Mar 20 2004, 03:14 AM
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Are Krugerands allowed to be imported into the US? I thought that about 10 years or so ago, that they could not be imported. Regardless of what the answer is, I'd love to be there for the chance to score one.
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post Mar 20 2004, 06:37 AM
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There certainly doesn't seem to be any problem importing them now.

I've been watching gold for a while, and thinking it might not be a bad place to invest, particularly during these times of trouble. Since I first started watching, Gold has climbed from around $325 to around $425 an ounce. That's in the space of about a year, which makes it a TREMENDOUS investment opportunity.

Traditionally, when major economies start to do poorly, Gold tends to rise in value. Gold started to rise after September 11, and has continued to do so at a fairly steady pace.

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post Mar 20 2004, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE (Indiana Cojones @ Mar 20 2004, 06:37 AM)
There certainly doesn't seem to be any problem importing them now.

I've been watching gold for a while, and thinking it might not be a bad place to invest, particularly during these times of trouble. Since I first started watching, Gold has climbed from around $325 to around $425 an ounce. That's in the space of about a year, which makes it a TREMENDOUS investment opportunity.

Traditionally, when major economies start to do poorly, Gold tends to rise in value. Gold started to rise after September 11, and has continued to do so at a fairly steady pace.

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Or at least a year ago it was s tremendous investment opportunity. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2004, 06:51 AM
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But seriously, what's the current street value on this coin?
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post Mar 20 2004, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (TeamK-9 @ Mar 20 2004, 06:51 AM)
But seriously, what's the current street value on this coin?

About 2% over/under spot.
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post Mar 20 2004, 08:35 AM
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Which means?
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post Mar 20 2004, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (Indiana Cojones @ Mar 20 2004, 06:37 AM)
There certainly doesn't seem to be any problem importing them now.

I've been watching gold for a while, and thinking it might not be a bad place to invest, particularly during these times of trouble. Since I first started watching, Gold has climbed from around $325 to around $425 an ounce. That's in the space of about a year, which makes it a TREMENDOUS investment opportunity.

Traditionally, when major economies start to do poorly, Gold tends to rise in value. Gold started to rise after September 11, and has continued to do so at a fairly steady pace.

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Gold is never a long term investment. Look at the bigger picture and graphs that go farther back. There are many other conservative investments that will do much better than gold.
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post Mar 20 2004, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE (TeamK-9 @ Mar 20 2004, 08:35 AM)
Which means?

Which means that the street value of the coin is very close to the spot price of gold, whatever the spot price may be at the time.
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post Mar 20 2004, 08:54 AM
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Could someone give me an idea here?

About how much would it be worth during today's exchange rate?
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post Mar 20 2004, 09:31 AM
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No one knows, because we don't know the weight of the coin. If it's a 1 oz coin, the value is around $420. If it's a half ounce coin, it'd be half that. Etc.
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post Mar 20 2004, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (JeepCachr @ Mar 20 2004, 09:36 AM)
Gold is never a long term investment. Look at the bigger picture and graphs that go farther back. There are many other conservative investments that will do much better than gold.

I never said it was a good LONG term investment. Frankly, I don't have enough faith in humanity to invest for the long haul.

There are plenty of good long-term investments which I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a fork than invest it. Phillip Morris is one. They always do well, and are a staple in many mutual funds, but their close work with Satan makes them unappealing in my book. wink.gif

Buy gold now. Sell it in 6 months or a year. I challenge you to find anyh investment that will likely do that well for that short period of time. The only problem is, you have to have enough money to buy enough gold to make the hit you take on selling it worth while. I, alas, do not. But if people are going to be putting them in caches for free then damn it, I'm there.
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post Mar 20 2004, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (TeamK-9 @ Mar 20 2004, 08:54 AM)
Could someone give me an idea here?

About how much would it be worth during today's exchange rate?

Go poke around on this site. Next to the word gold, to the left, is a little chart icon. Click that, and you will be brought to a page where you can click to get historic charts in months, years, etc. If you go to the main page, there are plenty of articles about what everyone thinks metals will do. There is also a link where you can actually go buy and sell Eagles, Krugerrands, etc. The prices will change based on the spot price of the metal you are looking at. The spot prices are for one troy ounce of the metal you are looking at. I don't know how to make it any clearer, you might just want to visit a coin shop near you and see what kind of prices you can get there. Hope this helps.
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biggrin.gif The coin just gives an added incentive. Alot of cachers in Houston metro area go the distance just to be a FTF on a micro. I for one, will only have 1/2 of the day to look for this, so I doubt I will be able to cover all the waypoints. But I will have fun trying! I have not met a cacher in Houston that was not very kind and generous. And they all have a sense of humor (although sometime strange)!
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QUOTE (sturgeongeneral @ Mar 19 2004, 04:42 PM)
I had the opportunity to party with some of the Houston cachers, and must say Texas has captured the true spirit of geocaching. The comraderee, true sportsmanship, sense of fairness and acceptance to newcomers shows how great these people are. Hats off to Houston cachers. They are the true representation of what it is all about!!!!!

Yeah, cause they are all packing heat wink.gif

Neat idea! However, I'll agree with Marky on this one. The value of the thing is not why I cache =)
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post Mar 21 2004, 05:39 AM
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To heck with whatever the bullion value of the coin might be. It would just plain be cool to own one. cool.gif
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post Mar 22 2004, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (MedTexPlacer @ Mar 20 2004, 04:00 PM)
I have not met a cacher in Houston that was not very kind and generous. And they all have a sense of humor (although sometime strange)!

Why do I think you are talking about me in that last part? Have you met SigJ? I'm small potatos compared to him.

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post Mar 22 2004, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (Indiana Cojones @ Mar 20 2004, 09:31 AM)
No one knows, because we don't know the weight of the coin. If it's a 1 oz coin, the value is around $420. If it's a half ounce coin, it'd be half that. Etc.

WHO CARES WHICH COIN IT IS! IT'S FREAKIN GOLD FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD!

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post Mar 23 2004, 06:46 AM
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Hey, don't yell at me, I was just trying to answer K-9's question. Alrhough let's face it, 1 oz would be just a bit cooler to find than 1/4 oz. smile.gif
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QUOTE (Snoogans @ Mar 22 2004, 08:13 PM)
QUOTE (MedTexPlacer @ Mar 20 2004, 04:00 PM)
I have not met a cacher in Houston that was not very kind and generous.  And they all have a sense of humor (although sometime strange)!

Why do I think you are talking about me in that last part? Have you met SigJ? I'm small potatos compared to him.

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ohmy.gif Hey Snoogans!

You calling me strange? What has the world come to? Anyone read the logs on his latest cache in the abandoned bomb shelter?

I'm watching you, Snoogans!! unsure.gif
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