Cache Reinstatemant

[+Simes]

I have been talking to wigglesworth about reinstating Burrow Mound cache, which I think was the first in England.

Would this be possible or would we need to call it something else?

[+Subarite]

Do you have a reference for the cache?

 

I can't find it on GC.com (maybe I just haven't got the knack!)

 

Andy.

[+Simes]

The reference for Burrow Mound id GC164. It is still on my watch list, the address is http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...95-92874a4d3666

[NeilFord]

If you are prepared to adopt the cache and maintain it, I can't see why it wouldn't get reactivated.

 

First thing to do is probably check out the location and make sure it's still suitable for a cache. If it is, then talk to the reviewers about bringing it back.

 

Wishing you every success in your endeavour.

 

- Neil.

[+MarcB]

Check out that low ID number! Was it the second or third in England?

MarcB

[+Bill D (wwh)]

The first real geocache in England was GC144 Fringe of Epping Forest.

 

See this thread for more information - read the whole thread.

[+Fayrewood Foragers]

i may be being a complete muppet here - but how can you tell it's age from the log number?

[+Bill D (wwh)]

Fayrewood Foresters wrote:

i may be being a complete muppet here - but how can you tell it's age from the log number?

The waypoint numbers (GC****) were originally hexadecimal numbers, and now use (I think) a 31 base system (or something similar), with some letters omitted to avoid accidental offensive "words" being formed. They're issued in numerical order as caches are approved. You can't tell the age as such, but the smaller the number the older the cache.

 

The oldest one in the system, approved on 7th May 2000, is GC004. It's long since archived. I don't know what happened to 001, 002 and 003, if they ever existed.

[+Stuey]

... and GC8, also by Mike Teague, is still active, and the oldest in the world. Just 38 logs.

[+MarcB]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4E

I know it's archived but could this still be there?

MarcB

[+The Wombles]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4E

I know it's archived but could this still be there?

MarcB

 

Nope, it never was, this was a test page to test out the GC.com system by faking a cache in each country. Check out the details for "Steve", the owner, who is actually Jeremy.

 

I'd also like to see some of our older caches being reactivated if someone is willing to maintain them.

Edited May 4, 2004 by The Wombles

[+Learned Gerbil]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4E

I know it's archived but could this still be there?

MarcB

Yes, Berrylands is still there!

 

Seriously, I had no idea this was so near to me - I know the open ground the coordinates lead to - but I will be surprised if I find anything.

Edited May 4, 2004 by Learned Gerbil

[+MarcB]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4E

I know it's archived but could this still be there?

MarcB

 

Nope, it never was, this was a test page to test out the GC.com system by faking a cache in each country. Check out the details for "Steve", the owner, who is actually Jeremy.

 

I'd also like to see some of our older caches being reactivated if someone is willing to maintain them.

Never knew that!

Someone should let Learned Gerbil know not to go and look for it now!

MarcB

[+Bill D (wwh)]

MarcB wrote:

Never knew that!

Someone should let Learned Gerbil know not to go and look for it now!

No - someone go and put one there quickly!

[Deego]

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?wp=GC4E

I know it's archived but could this still be there?

MarcB

 

Nope, it never was, this was a test page to test out the GC.com system by faking a cache in each country. Check out the details for "Steve", the owner, who is actually Jeremy.

 

I'd also like to see some of our older caches being reactivated if someone is willing to maintain them.

I am not so sure . I was doing some research and belive a Mr Steve Tuba placed the first UK cache on the 6th of June 2000 . Think it defaults to Jeremys profile. But I have been wrong before

[+Fangsy]

MarcB wrote:

Never knew that!

Someone should let Learned Gerbil know not to go and look for it now!

No - someone go and put one there quickly!

How about making it a virtual cache? Cachers would have to get to the place, and supply a photo of themselves with their gps, and a close up photo of their gps showing the co-ords on the screen.

Edited May 4, 2004 by Fangsy

[+MarcB]

Good idea - either way there's no harm in going and having a look at the place.

MarcB

[+Learned Gerbil]

There are some nice riverside gardens there - suitable for a suburban picnick if you were so inclined. A virtual cache seems like a good idea as this part of London is a bit barren cache wise, the nearest being Richmond Park and over towards Mitcham.

[Lactodorum]

How about making it a virtual cache? Cachers would have to get to the place, and supply a photo of themselves with their gps, and a close up photo of their gps showing the co-ords on the screen.

I'm afraid a Virtual is unlikely to be listed for this location I've had a look at the map and aerial photo of the area and it seems to be an open space with trees etc. and really ought to be able to support at least a micro if not a standard cache.

 

If anybody living (or working) nearby wants to check it out and submit a real cache I'd be happy to consider it for listing.

[+Learned Gerbil]

I will try and take a look in the next few days.

[+MarcB]

It'll be amazing if a cache is found there - good luck!

MarcB

[+Learned Gerbil]

I was more interested in whether there was a suitable hiding place for a cache, although if someone wants to hide one befoe I get there!

[+Learned Gerbil]

Having now visited the site I can say I would also be surprised to find a cache there!

 

The area around the coordinates were as I remembered them, a managed area of meadow between suburban houses (Berrylands being very much what The Good Life was based on) and The Hogsmill.

 

The area has been allowed to grow pretty wild, with a small number of trees, but mainly grass, nettle and thistle with wide walkways mowed across it. You can tell it is suburban by the "No Golf" signs! They obviously expect people to think the

mowed regions are fairways!

 

The problem with placing a regular or micro here is that even this early in the year the nettles and thistles are thigh high, and there is nowhere else to hide things. When the cover dies back in winter any cache would be exposed. There were plenty of people walking their dogs here at 6.30 this evening, and any area that had tree cover showed signs of children from the nearby houses using it as a den or similar. There were a few park benches on the mowed areas and all had been vandalised or were covered in graffitti. An additonal problem is that any cache laid near the listed position would be overlooked by a large number of houses.

 

However, about 300 yards southwest of the coordinates there is a more wooded area where a very small stream cuts across. I will try and go back and explore this for suitable locations when I am wearing thicker trousers as the thistles and nettles made leaving the fairways no fun at all!

Edited May 7, 2004 by Learned Gerbil

[+Bill D (wwh)]

Learned Gerbil wrote:

However, about 300 yards north of the coordinates there is a more wooded area where a small stream cuts across. I will try and go back and explore this for suitable locations when I am wearing thicker trousers as the thistles and nettles made leaving the fairways no fun at all!

If you place a container in the wooded area, you might want to consider trying to find something near the original spot which you could use for an offset stage, thus keeping the top-of-the-page co-ordinates near to the original ones.