[planetrobert]

JEREMY!!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST

next can we edit our caches tha realy are small, not micro?!?

This post has been edited by ralann: 10 September 2004 - 06:12 PM

[LordSaw]

Nice Quick Work, Jememy. This is an excellent solution. And I like the look.

Thanks
Cache Well.

[Go JayBee]

Yes, well done Jeremy....pleasantly surprized tonight to notice a new icon on the search list...

JayBee

[Prime Suspect]

Sweet! Though they could use some hover text. The physical sizes are fairly obvious, but the X and the dotted outlined box threw me for a second.

For those who haven't seen them yet:
= Micro
= Small
= Regular
= Large
= Other
= Virtual
= Not Chosen

Or, for the sports-minded:
= Strike
= Spare
= Open Frame

This post has been edited by Prime Suspect: 10 September 2004 - 08:03 PM

[LordSaw]

Prime Suspect, on Sep 10 2004, 10:55 PM, said:

Sweet! Though they could use some hover text.

Curious, in my browser they did have hover text. At least for Micro, Regular and Not Chosen.

Cache Well

[Jeremy]

There is hover text.

Small will be added as soon as developers have sufficient time to implement it in their software.

[art begotti]

yeah, i had hover text as well...
my one concern... was this the result of numerous people complaining about micros v. regulars here on these threads? because i will admit, the concept of the boxes are good... but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

[LordSaw]

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 11:06 PM, said:

There is hover text.

Small will be added as soon as developers have sufficient time to implement it in their software.

Jeremy,

Can we now assume that there will be no change to the "Type" of caches?

Thanks for a job well done.

Cache Well

[Semper Questio]

Very nice! Thanks!

[Jeremy]

artbegotti, on Sep 10 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

Dude, get over it and move on. Seriously. If I gave you wads of cash you'd want me to sort the denominations. Just ignore them if you don't use them.

[Prime Suspect]

LordSaw, on Sep 10 2004, 09:59 PM, said:

Prime Suspect, on Sep 10 2004, 10:55 PM, said:

Sweet! Though they could use some hover text.

Curious, in my browser they did have hover text. At least for Micro, Regular and Not Chosen.

Cache Well

I'm guessing you're using the IE browser. IE is broken in so many ways, it's not funny.

Some browsers (like IE), which don't properly follow the standards, incorrectly show Alternate Text (which is meant to replace the image when the image can't be displayed for whatever reason) as hover text. But the ALT tag was never meant to be use used as hover text. The TITLE tag is better suited for that, and works in all current browsers.

So, no, technically there is no hover text provided, though IE is incorrectly displaying the alternate image text as hover text.

[Jeremy]

Interesting. In my 10+ years of html I never realized there was even a title tag. You learn a new thing every day. I'll add the title tag once I return on Monday to the office.

Honestly it seems kinda redundant to have alt and title, but I'm no HTML guru guy.

[fly46]

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 08:23 PM, said:

artbegotti, on Sep 10 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

Dude, get over it and move on. Seriously. If I gave you wads of cash you'd want me to sort the denominations. Just ignore them if you don't use them.

ROTFLMAO!

Wait a minute, Jeremy, is this you or has your account been hacked?
Now about those wads of cache... cash... (I'm getting very annoyed at my inability to spell that... It's a serious issue, I don't just joke about it)..... Anway, if you're giving out stuff like that, just give me dead inventors, no need to sort....

I love whatever you've done to the site, regardless of if I will use it. It shows that you're listening to what we're saying and you're trying to do something about it.


artbegotti, what the heck? I ignore gum on the sidewalk and the urinals in portapottys, but you don't see me getting nasty with the PortaJohn guys, do you?

[Prime Suspect]

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 10:26 PM, said:

Interesting. In my 10+ years of html I never realized there was even a title tag. You learn a new thing every day. I'll add the title tag once I return on Monday to the office.

Honestly it seems kinda redundant to have alt and title, but I'm no HTML guru guy.

You rock, dude!

Yeah, the "alt as hover text" thing is an IE aberration. I don't know about Opera, but I do know it won't display as hover text in Mozilla or Firefox. And the Mozilla/Firefox browsers now have %15 of the market. Doesn't seem like a lot, but that's double what it was in January. Watch out Bill, someone's gaining on you!

[planetrobert]

fly46, on Sep 10 2004, 09:30 PM, said:

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 08:23 PM, said:

artbegotti, on Sep 10 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

Dude, get over it and move on. Seriously. If I gave you wads of cash you'd want me to sort the denominations. Just ignore them if you don't use them.

ROTFLMAO!

Wait a minute, Jeremy, is this you or has your account been hacked?
Now about those wads of cache... cash... (I'm getting very annoyed at my inability to spell that... It's a serious issue, I don't just joke about it)..... Anway, if you're giving out stuff like that, just give me dead inventors, no need to sort....

dittos, just send any my way, crumpled up in wads, out of order, i really dont care.

seriously though jeremy, you must finally have learned the secret of life and become cynical in your old age

[art begotti]

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 08:23 PM, said:

artbegotti, on Sep 10 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

Dude, get over it and move on. Seriously. If I gave you wads of cash you'd want me to sort the denominations. Just ignore them if you don't use them.

fly46 said:

artbegotti, what the heck?  I ignore gum on the sidewalk and the urinals in portapottys, but you don't see me getting nasty with the PortaJohn guys, do you?

there's a time for me to comment, and there's a time for me to learn to bite my tongue. yikes, i gonna start watchin' what i say around here...

edit: i'm an idiot for adding this in, especially after my last comment, but i honestly wouldnt mind sorting the money myself... i mean, think about it... its not like i'm gonna be spending it all right away, right?

yep. shuttin' up now.

This post has been edited by artbegotti: 11 September 2004 - 03:48 AM

[SixDogTeam]

So, what's the cutoff between small and regular?

[Moose Mob]

That size-bar is great! Thanks Jeremy!

[BassoonPilot]

fly46, on Sep 10 2004, 11:30 PM, said:

  I ignore gum on the sidewalk and the urinals in portapottys, but you don't see me getting nasty with the PortaJohn guys, do you?

Why do you ignore the urinals in portapotties; I'll bet that makes the portapotty guys want to "get nasty" with you!

Oh. Almost forgot; the new "size icons" look good.

This post has been edited by BassoonPilot: 11 September 2004 - 05:25 AM

[MissJenn]

Prime Suspect, on Sep 10 2004, 10:55 PM, said:

Sweet! Though they could use some hover text.

Not a big deal to me, but just some feedback: no hover text in Safari or Mac IE, either.

Quote

Or, for the sports-minded:
= Strike
= Spare
= Open Frame

Now I am imagining your avatar guy with 2-toned bowling shoes on.

[dafunk22]

ralann, on Sep 10 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

JEREMY!!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST

next can we edit our caches tha realy are small, not micro?!?

So, are we going to be able to edit existing caches? Did I miss a reply? Just wondering...

[southdeltan]

dafunk22, on Sep 11 2004, 06:12 AM, said:

ralann, on Sep 10 2004, 06:11 PM, said:

JEREMY!!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST

next can we edit our caches tha realy are small, not micro?!?

So, are we going to be able to edit existing caches? Did I miss a reply? Just wondering...

The "small" size will be added just as soon as the developers of 3rd party software (the programs that sortout Pocket Queries) have a chance to add that type to their software.

Once that's been done, they'll take the small size live - and if you cache is bigger than a micro and smaller than regular - you'll be able to change it.

At least I think that's what he said....

southdeltan

[Jeremy]

SD's got it dead on. Thanks

[LordSaw]

Jeremy, on Sep 11 2004, 11:02 AM, said:

SD's got it dead on. Thanks

Jeremy,

I asked this once before in this thread, but haven’t gotten a response from you yet, so I will ask once more, politely and respectfully. Are you still thinking about adding “MICRO” to the Cache Type definitions or does adding the Size Bar Icon to the search results cover this. The reason I am asking is because of Clyde England’s stance on adding “Small” to the size choices in GSAK.

Quote

Yes, thanks. This won't break GSAK, it just means for the moment you would not be able to to a filter on size small.

They are also talking about making micro anther cache type. I want to wait for the smoke to settle on all this before I rush into any changes for GSAK.

Thanks for your attention to this question and Thanks for the Great Site.

Cache Well

[MarcB]

Thanks Jeremy for this useful feature!
MarcB

[Boo & Kitty]

So are sizes for WebCam, Locationless, Event, and CITO "other" or "virtual"?

[Prime Suspect]

MissJenn, on Sep 11 2004, 07:58 AM, said:

Now I am imagining your avatar guy with 2-toned bowling shoes on.

He's wearing spats over the bowling shoes.

[Abby's Family]

THANKS Jeremy!!!!

The new icons ROCK!

One additional request would be if its possible at some point in the near future to add the icons to the "Map it" page for when you click on Identify.

That map feature is great because it can give very easy to see nearby caches when out on a daily hunt.

Having the size there would be great too. Thanks in advance.

[hedberg]

Can't you remove the icons when virtual, webcam caches etc are listed?
Since they don't have a physical box, why list it as it might have a box?

[Team Perks]

As much as I thought I wouldn't personally care about having the cache sizes so readily visible...now that it's there, I must admit I really like it.

Thanks!

[Divine]

hedberg, on Sep 11 2004, 10:01 PM, said:

Can't you remove the icons when virtual, webcam caches etc are listed?
Since they don't have a physical box, why list it as it might have a box?

There's an icon specifically meant for virtuals and webcams: It's a dotted outlined box to imply there's no physical box.

This post has been edited by Divine: 11 September 2004 - 02:14 PM

[southdeltan]

LordSaw, on Sep 11 2004, 08:19 AM, said:

Jeremy, on Sep 11 2004, 11:02 AM, said:

SD's got it dead on. Thanks

Jeremy,

I asked this once before in this thread, but haven’t gotten a response from you yet, so I will ask once more, politely and respectfully. Are you still thinking about adding “MICRO” to the Cache Type definitions or does adding the Size Bar Icon to the search results cover this. The reason I am asking is because of Clyde England’s stance on adding “Small” to the size choices in GSAK.

Quote

Yes, thanks. This won't break GSAK, it just means for the moment you would not be able to to a filter on size small.

They are also talking about making micro anther cache type. I want to wait for the smoke to settle on all this before I rush into any changes for GSAK.

Thanks for your attention to this question and Thanks for the Great Site.

Cache Well

I'd say it's very unlikely that "micro" will get it's own cache type.

However - Jeremy has stated that they ARE adding a new cache size between micro and regular. They haven't added yet so people who develop third party software can add support for the new "small" size before they put it on the website.

I'd think if I was a developer I'd add support for the new size and be glad they warned me about the change.

southdeltan

[LordSaw]

southdeltan, on Sep 11 2004, 03:50 PM, said:

I'd think if I was a developer I'd add support for the new size and be glad they warned me about the change.

southdeltan

That's the whole point, Clyde is going to include the size containe of small eventually, but is waiting to hear that he has/doesn't have to implement a new cache type also. As Jeremy is delaying implementing the "Small" container size, to give developers time to implement it, and Clyde is waiting to implement it until Jeremy makes the decision about the "Micro Type" public, we have an impasse with GSAK.

I just want to see this implemented both on the website and in GSAK within a reasonable time.

Cache Well

[pfunky]

Cool. I was on my soapbox in another thread, and completely missed this one.

Thanks Jeremy for fixing the tooltips! Any chance of you modifiying the 'cache type' icons to include the "title" attribute too? Those icons baffled me as a new user (course I know them now, but it's helpful for new users who also prefer Mozilla).

Thanks again.

[CompuCash]

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 09:23 PM, said:

artbegotti, on Sep 10 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

but i really dont care for them at all. really. i usually go out hunting for caches without even looking at what size it is. this feature wont really help me, but rather annoy me out of my bob the builder pajamas.

Dude, get over it and move on. Seriously. If I gave you wads of cash you'd want me to sort the denominations. Just ignore them if you don't use them.

can we get a reverse sort too??? <giggle>

[BalkanSabranje]

Prime Suspect, on Sep 11 2004, 06:38 AM, said:

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 10:26 PM, said:

Interesting. In my 10+ years of html I never realized there was even a title tag. You learn a new thing every day. I'll add the title tag once I return on Monday to the office.

Honestly it seems kinda redundant to have alt and title, but I'm no HTML guru guy.

You rock, dude!

Yeah, the "alt as hover text" thing is an IE aberration. I don't know about Opera, [...]

Opera
Version 7.52
Build 3834

No hover text whatsoever.

BS/2

[southdeltan]

LordSaw, on Sep 11 2004, 01:03 PM, said:

southdeltan, on Sep 11 2004, 03:50 PM, said:

I'd think if I was a developer I'd add support for the new size and be glad they warned me about the change. 

southdeltan

That's the whole point, Clyde is going to include the size containe of small eventually, but is waiting to hear that he has/doesn't have to implement a new cache type also. As Jeremy is delaying implementing the "Small" container size, to give developers time to implement it, and Clyde is waiting to implement it until Jeremy makes the decision about the "Micro Type" public, we have an impasse with GSAK.

I just want to see this implemented both on the website and in GSAK within a reasonable time.

Cache Well

If you go back and read all of the threads about this - you'll see that Jeremy does not beleive that Micros warrant their own type. He's also commented that 50% in the poll is not anywhere near enough to think that the "masses" think that micro is a seperate type either.

If I was a betting man, I'd say micros aren't getting a cache type anytime soon, if every.

The new size will go in wether GSAK has that in or not... might as well put it in.

sd

[Prime Suspect]

BalkanSabranje, on Sep 12 2004, 08:44 AM, said:

Prime Suspect, on Sep 11 2004, 06:38 AM, said:

Jeremy, on Sep 10 2004, 10:26 PM, said:

Interesting. In my 10+ years of html I never realized there was even a title tag. You learn a new thing every day. I'll add the title tag once I return on Monday to the office.

Honestly it seems kinda redundant to have alt and title, but I'm no HTML guru guy.

You rock, dude!

Yeah, the "alt as hover text" thing is an IE aberration. I don't know about Opera, [...]

Opera
Version 7.52
Build 3834

No hover text whatsoever.

BS/2

I figured Opera wouldn't display alt text as hover text. Like Mozilla, it's a highly compliant browser.

Why doesn't someone create a browser called Oprah? It would convert every web page into a nice little life-lesson, and encourage people to read mediocre books. And the size of the executable file would continually fluctuate on your hard drive.

[planetrobert]

Prime Suspect, on Sep 12 2004, 11:12 AM, said:

Why doesn't someone create a browser called Oprah? It would convert every web page into a nice little life-lesson, and encourage people to read mediocre books. And the size of the executable file would continually fluctuate on your hard drive.

ROFLMAO

that is quality.

[Gaddiel and OrangeDanish]

I love this idea, but I wish they had filled in all the spaces to the left of the dot, too. For example, on a regular-sized container, fill in the first and second dots, as well. It would make it easier to see the size at a glance...

[Nappy10]

Everything seems to be working great for me on Firefox. The hover text and everything. The new icons seem to be a great addition. (I like the directional compass icons). Thanks for all the hard work.

Nappy10

[Prime Suspect]

Nappy10, on Sep 13 2004, 07:34 PM, said:

Everything seems to be working great for me on Firefox. The hover text and everything. The new icons seem to be a great addition. (I like the directional compass icons). Thanks for all the hard work.

Nappy10

Title tags have been added! Works great! I like that you can tell how many t-bugs are in a cache without opening the cache page.

[pfunky]

Hovertext works like a champ now! Thanks Jeremy!