[WYlostinMA]

Does anyone know what this means? Someone posted it on one of my caches, and I don't know what it means.......

[Runaround]

You ain't gonna like the answer.

[MrCOgeo]

Yeah I don't know how to exactly break the news...gently?

Basically...some geeky lingo guy didn't "appreciate" your cache,
it's a French term basically meaning Dead Clams

Draw your conclusion from that and please don't hurt me I'm just relaying info.

Edited: For man you guys type fast!!! <below>

This post has been edited by MRCOGEO: 21 February 2005 - 07:07 PM

[WYlostinMA]

well, wheather I like it or not, I still need to know what it means!!!!

[IV_Warrior]

Hmmm......

I guess the nicest way to say it is...you're cache didn't make their "top 10" list......

[WH]

Ok...Ill spill it.

DPM stands for Des Palourdes Mortes (French for The Dead Clams). It a code meaning that the cache stinks.

<please dont shoot the messenger >

This post has been edited by WH: 21 February 2005 - 07:04 PM

[WYlostinMA]

Thanks, now I will delete their post! If they didn't like the cache, they could keep it to themselves....

[Runaround]

Look here.

[WH]

I once signed a logbook DPM but I didnt include it in my online log.

[IV_Warrior]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 11:05 PM, said:

Thanks, now I will delete their post!  If they didn't like the cache, they could keep it to themselves....

Well, they DID find the cache. It would be just as wrong to delete their find.

EDIT: Didn't look at the cache page to realize it was a note, and not a found log.

This post has been edited by IV_Warrior: 21 February 2005 - 07:20 PM

[Runaround]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 10:05 PM, said:

Thanks, now I will delete their post! If they didn't like the cache, they could keep it to themselves....

At least they didn't log it as a find, only a note.

[WYlostinMA]

true and now their note it gone

[Kit Fox]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 07:05 PM, said:

Thanks, now I will delete their post! If they didn't like the cache, they could keep it to themselves....

Well you hid two "Walmart Micros", did you expect everyone to enjoy the scenic parking lot, or the heavy people traffic.

This log put it eloquently: "What is this, Nashville?"

If you hide caches considered to be lame, don't expect everyone to bite their tongue in their online logs. Grow thicker skin, or hide caches in more scenic areas.

[Runaround]

Kit Fox, on Feb 21 2005, 10:23 PM, said:

This log put it eloquently: "What is this, Nashville?"

And by knowing the reputation of the cacher, that says a lot.

[WYlostinMA]

Well, considering the two feet of snow that was out there, I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones, you know just to give everyone their fix. I'll tell you one thing, I have found a couple of "lame" caches, but I kept it to myself. Did this person read the cache page, or just punch in the coords.? If they read to page then they would have know what the cache was.

[5]

A lame cache find is no biggie to me. Just reminds me that I want to place quality rather than quantity caches. I mean come on, I don't think I've ever gone to a lame cache thinking it was going to be awesome. Most are pretty obvious if you read the description.

[The Blind Acorn]

So if given the fact they are named Wally World and Wally World II, why did people go find them? Guess #'s are more important than thinking someone's caches are lame. Don't worry about it man, hide more... hide all kinds... something will always bug at least one person.

You can't please everyone. Thank you for participating by hiding caches!!!

[New England n00b]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 10:43 PM, said:

Well, considering the two feet of snow that was out there, I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones, you know just to give everyone their fix. I'll tell you one thing, I have found a couple of "lame" caches, but I kept it to myself. Did this person read the cache page, or just punch in the coords.? If they read to page then they would have know what the cache was.

Dude, don't take it personally. There are all types of personalities in geocachers. Some are just plain rude jerks. There have been many debates about what is 'lame'. I know of several cachers who are handicapped and 1/1 caches that a hiking pro might consider lame are a joyous treat to people who are not able to climb Mount Rushmore.

The only real 'lame' cache is one that is not maintained. If the seeker didn't like the cache from it's description, they shouldn't have even bothered.

Keep caching, keep hiding and enjoy yourself. Don't let the twerps get in your way.

[Renegade Knight]

Lame is as lame does. If someone takes time out of their day to find and hate your cache because it's so dadgum lame, then hell they got their reward right there. The best part is you don't even need to life a finger. They will punish themselves again and again with no effort on your part.

[briansnat]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 10:05 PM, said:

Thanks, now I will delete their post!  If they didn't like the cache, they could keep it to themselves....

Deleting legit finds is plain wrong and sanitizing your cache longs so there are no critical entries is juvenile. Maybe you should stick with finding caches if your skin is so thin.

BTW, here is the origin of DPM.

This post has been edited by briansnat: 22 February 2005 - 03:09 AM

[Mastifflover]

The Blind Acorn, on Feb 21 2005, 10:58 PM, said:

So if given the fact they are named Wally World and Wally World II, why did people go find them? Guess #'s are more important than thinking someone's caches are lame. Don't worry about it man, hide more... hide all kinds... something will always bug at least one person.

You can't please everyone. Thank you for participating by hiding caches!!!

I agree with the acorn. Don't go looking for a cache named Wally World or Wally World II and then complain about it because you weren't enlightened. The only lame thing here is the person who doesn't like this type of cache but seeks it out anyways just to complain about it.

[TheWilkens]

Mastifflover, on Feb 22 2005, 06:30 AM, said:

The Blind Acorn, on Feb 21 2005, 10:58 PM, said:

So if given the fact they are named Wally World and Wally World II, why did people go find them?  Guess #'s are more important than thinking someone's caches are lame.  Don't worry about it man, hide more...  hide all kinds...  something will always bug at least one person.

You can't please everyone.  Thank you for participating by hiding caches!!!

I agree with the acorn. Don't go looking for a cache named Wally World or Wally World II and then complain about it because you weren't enlightened. The only lame thing here is the person who doesn't like this type of cache but seeks it out anyways just to complain about it.

Of course this works until you live in our town - Wallingford. lovingly named Wally World long before Walmart ever became what it is today. So we have "Wally World Wamble in our town and it requires about a mile hike in and out of the woods. Not quite what you'd expect if you've come looking for a lampost and a micro

[CoyoteRed]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 10:43 PM, said:

...I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones,  you know just to give everyone their fix.

You know, this about the poorest excuse for putting out a cache.

Yes, Charlotte, you can put out nice, easy, wheelchair accessible caches which have some meaning and a nice view. There is no rule or guideline that state micros have to be placed in the most meaningless place imaginable."

You know, instead of getting po'ed at the person that left the note, maybe you should re-examine your hide.

Many thanks to TPTB for the ignore list! Best thing since PQs, hands down!

Now, if we could just get the abilty to proclaim a cache too lame to block a nearby cache that might actually be worthwhile.

This post has been edited by CoyoteRed: 22 February 2005 - 04:18 AM

[WH]

Whether the caches are lame or not is purely personal taste. There is no need to blast someone because their caches don't live up to what YOU think a cache should be. His caches are acessible by all and everyone has the choice whether to seek them out or not. Those that choose not too can utilize that lovely new tool called the IGNORE LIST.

This post has been edited by WH: 22 February 2005 - 04:41 AM

[Wyoming Travelers]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 06:57 PM, said:

Does anyone know what this means?  Someone posted it on one of my caches, and I don't  know what it means.......

It also means British DPM (Disruptive Pattern Material) It is the camoflage used by the British military. Perhaps he was complimenting the cache. Did you email him to ask what he meant? I would highly recommend that before you delete his log. The camoflage version of DPM makes more sense simply because any soldier or marine knows DPM as a camoflage of the Brits. Granted I do not have any french associates so it is possible the french explanation is best.

This post has been edited by Cwiggum: 22 February 2005 - 05:50 AM

[RuffRidr]

Something stinks, and it ain't Des Palourdes Mortes. I think it was "lame" that you deleted their log. So what if someone doesn't like your cache. Not everyone is going to like every cache. Personally, I'd use it as incentive to hide a better cache next time.

--RuffRidr

[fishingfools]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 07:43 PM, said:

I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones, you know just to give everyone their fix.

Great reson to hide a cache, I love getting one every day on the way home. Keep up the good work.

Also, don't mess with the log. That's just not right.

[wimseyguy]

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 07:43 PM, said:

I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones,  you know just to give everyone their fix.

Well, I for one am glad you did hide these! I spent the better part of Thursday afternoon caching my way up the Interstate from the Hartford airport. It was getting dark and cold, and I was running late to get to our friends house for dinner. Ohh lookie, I can get one more quick park and grab before shutting down for the night, cause I'm driving right past it and I know exactly what to expect when I get there.

Now, when are we getting that ignore feature for the forums?

PS I do agree completely with other posters in here that if you are going to hide these, you should be prepared for some negative comments. If a cacher found it, then it's bad form to delete his post just because you don't like what he wrote. From reading the cache page I'm guessing that situation has been rectfied. Please tell us it has.

[Camo-crazed]

The Blind Acorn, on Feb 21 2005, 07:58 PM, said:

  something will always bug at least one person.

Yeah, those darn ammo boxes, they get me really annoyed because you don't have any challenges signing the logbook, and if you kick it or jump on it, it won't break

[AtoZ]

WH, on Feb 22 2005, 04:41 AM, said:

There is no need to blast someone because their caches don't live up to what YOU think a cache should be.

The cacher wasn't attacking the cache owner just the cache. So often people start threads that they want to rate caches and when some one post a not that he and he is entitlted to his/her opnion that a cache is DMP or what ever then some one takes offense and lampoons thmm. So what will it be. Don't take it personal if you put out a WALLY WORLD cache expect it to be lame, unless your REALLY creative.
I get told to often with my cache I am close to the edge. Edge of what I am not sure but okay.
cheers

[MariettaGecko]

AtoZ, on Feb 22 2005, 07:00 AM, said:

...if you put out a WALLY WORLD cache expect it to be lame...

Ok, just for that, I'm going to have to go place a wally world cache and have people giving rave reviews about it. Just to prove it can be done.

[BadAndy]

CoyoteRed, on Feb 22 2005, 04:17 AM, said:

WYlostinMA, on Feb 21 2005, 10:43 PM, said:

...I thought that I would put up a couple easy ones,  you know just to give everyone their fix.

You know, this about the poorest excuse for putting out a cache.

Yes, Charlotte, you can put out nice, easy, wheelchair accessible caches which have some meaning and a nice view. There is no rule or guideline that state micros have to be placed in the most meaningless place imaginable."

You know, instead of getting po'ed at the person that left the note, maybe you should re-examine your hide.

Many thanks to TPTB for the ignore list! Best thing since PQs, hands down!

Now, if we could just get the abilty to proclaim a cache too lame to block a nearby cache that might actually be worthwhile.

My wife is not big on geocaching. She isn't a very physical person, and has zero patience looking for a cache. That said, when I really really want her to join me, I just promise her that we'll hit a few easy ones first. Lightpole caches are tops on her list.

Don't be so fast to rag on a cache just because it isn't up to your narrow standards. If it wasn't for easy driveby urban caches....my wife would never join me. Personally, I'm grateful for them.

Use the ignore feature if you need to, but remember that every cache placed is a good cache in someones eyes.

[RuffRidr]

BadAndy, on Feb 22 2005, 08:53 AM, said:

Use the ignore feature if you need to, but remember that every cache placed is a good cache in someones eyes.

How would he know it was going to be a DPM cache until after he went after it. I don't see how the Ignore feature helps here.

--RuffRidr

[CoyoteRed]

BadAndy, on Feb 22 2005, 11:53 AM, said:

Don't be so fast to rag on a cache just because it isn't up to your narrow standards. If it wasn't for easy drive-by urban caches....my wife would never join me.

Reading and comprehending the entire post is essential to understanding what one has to say.

A cache does not have to be lame to be enjoyed. "Easy," "accessible," "drive-up" and a whole host of other descriptives does not equal "lame." You can have a cache that fits perfectly within the parameters set to enable your wife to join you without it being lame.

I'm sorry that your wife can't get around very well, but using that as an excuse for lame caches is pretty lame in itself. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd be a bit miffed that my contemporaries aren't considerate enough to place decent caches for her to enjoy. Are Walmart parking lot caches the best you can do for her?

Think about it.

[BadAndy]

CoyoteRed, on Feb 22 2005, 09:11 AM, said:

I'm sorry that your wife can't get around very well, but using that as an excuse for lame caches is pretty lame in itself. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd be a bit miffed that my contemporaries aren't considerate enough to place decent caches for her to enjoy. Are Walmart parking lot caches the best you can do for her?

Think about it.

My wife could care less if it's a cache that you would consider lame. When she goes with me, it's not because she might find a worthy cache, it's because she wants to enjoy time with me. You may find this hard to swallow, but geocaching is low on her list of enjoyable things. She seen the good caches, and the great ones. She prefers walmart light poles.

Frankly, I'm offended by your comments regarding my wife and I. You know nada about either of us

[j9cache & Mike(j9+M)]

I still don't see a reason to be rude. One man's easy is another man's lame. If you're experienced and jaded enough to judge a cache to be lame, you should be experienced enough to glean from the page that it might not be the one you're searching for to give new meaning to your life.

[BadAndy]

Also...my local peers place exceptional caches. As a matter of fact, our area is well known for it's great caching. If they placed a few more light pole caches, I'm sure my wife would appreciate it.

[CoyoteRed]

BadAndy, on Feb 22 2005, 12:17 PM, said:

Frankly, I'm offended by your comments regarding my wife and I. You know nada about either of us

Sorry to offend. I just thought you'd want something better for her to look at than a blue and grey box. I know my wife would much rather visit a nice park or road-side view.

[carleenp]

I would suggest that instead of putting DPM in a log when the cache owner likely won't know what it means, that the log honestly but politely state why the finder disliked the cache. That would be more useful to a cache owner than a mysterious "DPM." I suspect it would also have a greater chance at making the cache owner re-consider his or her cache in light of the log. I would also urge cache owners to not delete logs sinply because they are critical. It is part of the cache history, good or bad. But in the end how these things are handled are obviously individual choices.

[CoyoteRed]

j9cache, on Feb 22 2005, 12:21 PM, said:

One man's easy is another man's lame.

Not true in the least. I know of some excellent easy caches.

The ease of completing the cache has nothing to do with how much satisfaction you can get out of it.

[Runaround]

Since I was in this thread early I had a chance to look at the offending log before it was deleted. It was posted as a note, not a find. The log said something like:

DPM TNLN TFN

The finder didn't even feel like taking credit for the find.

That said, I think deleting the log was the wrong thing to do. It was only a brutally honest statement of personal opinion.

[fishingfools]

CoyoteRed, on Feb 22 2005, 09:39 AM, said:

The ease of completing the cache has nothing to do with how much satisfaction you can get out of it.

Nor does the so called "CR lameness factor". We all have different tastes.


MMMMMMMM, DPM!

[Joe Smith]

Runaround, on Feb 22 2005, 12:41 PM, said:

DPM TNLN TFN

Wow

That was nothing compared to a log i left for a local wal*mart micro.


I got my log deleted too





I understand why he did it, we talked a few times and are actually on good terms. He said I could re log a simple "found it" if i wanted to, but I just left it as it was. If I were you, send him an email just to let him know why it's deleted (I think he knows anyways) and see if you can go find a cache sometime. Good way to turn lemons into lemonade.


Joe Smith

[CoyoteRed]

fishingfools, on Feb 22 2005, 01:19 PM, said:

Nor does the so called "CR lameness factor". We all have different tastes.

I'd bet you don't even know what I'd call lame without going back and reading a bunch of my posts.

[fishingfools]

CoyoteRed, on Feb 22 2005, 10:33 AM, said:

fishingfools, on Feb 22 2005, 01:19 PM, said:

Nor does the so called "CR lameness factor".  We all have different tastes.

I'd bet you don't even know what I'd call lame without going back and reading a bunch of my posts.

Sir, I have read many of your posts, including the one where you called into question the worthiness of one of my caches. I do not agree with many of your statements, but support your right to express them.

I do not want to start anything with you, I am just pointing out that all viewpoints are valid and should be respected.

[sbell111]

Quote

I'd bet you don't even know what I'd call lame without going back and reading a bunch of my posts.

Why would he have to, you tell us every day that you find caches like this one lame.

As much as I'm against deleting logs, I would probably delete a log as rude as this one was. People seem to forget that a placed cache is a gift to each person who searches for it. I bet that every one of us was raised to be polite when somoeone gave us a gift, even if we thought the gift was lame.

This post has been edited by sbell111: 22 February 2005 - 11:03 AM

[Renegade Knight]

RuffRidr, on Feb 22 2005, 10:11 AM, said:

BadAndy, on Feb 22 2005, 08:53 AM, said:

Use the ignore feature if you need to, but remember that every cache placed is a good cache in someones eyes.

How would he know it was going to be a DPM cache until after he went after it. I don't see how the Ignore feature helps here.

--RuffRidr

Planning.

Know the hider, Know the area the cache is in, and know that you are going to need to do more planning the more specific your requirements for a non DPM cache are.

Some people don't want to plan, and don't want to try to have more fun, but then that's their own fault. Not mine for having placed a cache that someone will enjoy, even if not them.

[sbell111]

If one doesn't like 'lightpole micros' perhaps he should stay away from 1/1s called 'Wally World'.

[Kit Fox]

sbell111, on Feb 22 2005, 11:03 AM, said:

People seem to forget that a placed cache is a gift to each person who searches for it. I bet that every one of us was raised to be polite when somoeone gave us a gift, even if we thought the gift was lame.

If you think a log only micro , hidden in a Wal Mart parking lot is a gift to geocaching, you have low standards. When new geocachers visit caches like this, they read the positive logs written my power cachers. They falsely assume that lame caches are ok to hide because no one writes critical online logs.

MEDIOCRITY BREEDS MORE MEDIOCRITY

[nfa]

My thoughts, for what they're worth...

to the hider - don't hide caches if you're not willing to accept bad reviews

to the finder - don't seek out the 1/1s that the description or a glance at topozone will show to be a parking lot micro, and don't expect everyone to know what "dpm tnln tfn" means

DPM is a cute phrase/idea, but given the tiny percentage of geocachers who frequent the forums, it might be seen as more elitist than informative.

nfa-jamie